Incoming Cyrodiil Vet Rank Change and more

Emma_Overload

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

Islyn

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

wraith808 wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

If Cyro-Delves become desirable grinding spots, some PvP will move underground. Does that improve performance above, by spreading folks out?

Have you ever PvP'd unexpectedly in a delve? It's one of the most awesome experiences in Cyrodiil. I hope that it does drive people underground...

Actually, the ONLY times I've enjoyed PvP are when I ran into an enemy players by surprise while questing for skyshards. There is no zerg lag underground! ...yet.

And it is so funny too! Lol! Had a DK rouse like 11 trolls to us (then we were vr5 and 3 but Templars) and we wiped the trolls and wiped the v14 dk xD pre-patch so no jesus beam - lol. It is easy to mess lowbies up when you have all your friends with you but a little harder when you don't!

I also loved it when I alone came across a yellow sorc and we both just stopped a sec (it was coming in, I was leaving) and both just went around each other and carried on.

Finally - a lvl 40something crossed me on a field and started attacking - knocked them on their can then sent a tell 'You may live. Go now.' and watched him/her gallop off.

xD

IcyDeadPeople

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

You should get VR14 items. The loot in Cyrodiil has always scaled to your level - has someone indicated this will change?

Emma_Overload

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

You should get VR14 items. The loot in Cyrodiil has always scaled to your level - has someone indicated this will change?

The only times I ever saw VR14 in Cyrodiil was from the chest you loot after closing a dolmen, but those were NEVER set pieces, just basic no-name dropped gear.

Has anyone ever been able to farm a VR14 set piece from anywhere in Cyrodiil?

Andferne

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The only times I ever saw VR14 in Cyrodiil was from the chest you loot after closing a dolmen, but those were NEVER set pieces, just basic no-name dropped gear.

Has anyone ever been able to farm a VR14 set piece from anywhere in Cyrodiil?

Martial Knowledge/Way of Air/Way of Fire, and other pieces drop from the chests at the end of Dolmens, all Vr14. (Or scaled to your level.)

HeroOfNone

Andferne wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The only times I ever saw VR14 in Cyrodiil was from the chest you loot after closing a dolmen, but those were NEVER set pieces, just basic no-name dropped gear.

Has anyone ever been able to farm a VR14 set piece from anywhere in Cyrodiil?

Martial Knowledge/Way of Air/Way of Fire, and other pieces drop from the chests at the end of Dolmens, all Vr14. (Or scaled to your level.)

drops in any cyrodiil chest as long as you're v14. Dolmen, delve, overworld, etc.

Emma_Overload

Andferne wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The only times I ever saw VR14 in Cyrodiil was from the chest you loot after closing a dolmen, but those were NEVER set pieces, just basic no-name dropped gear.

Has anyone ever been able to farm a VR14 set piece from anywhere in Cyrodiil?

Martial Knowledge/Way of Air/Way of Fire, and other pieces drop from the chests at the end of Dolmens, all Vr14. (Or scaled to your level.)

That's amazing! Last time I did it about 5 times in a row and didn't get any of that stuff, but that was before the last couple of patches.

Thanks for the info

LonePirate

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

Islyn

Andferne wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The only times I ever saw VR14 in Cyrodiil was from the chest you loot after closing a dolmen, but those were NEVER set pieces, just basic no-name dropped gear.

Has anyone ever been able to farm a VR14 set piece from anywhere in Cyrodiil?

Martial Knowledge/Way of Air/Way of Fire, and other pieces drop from the chests at the end of Dolmens, all Vr14. (Or scaled to your level.)

Guess what I'll be doing till scale to v12? (And poss after)

Islyn

LonePirate wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

I was just gonna say: I am pretty sure v14 MK only drops in SO - at least that is the only place I have looted it.

IcyDeadPeople

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

I was just gonna say: I am pretty sure v14 MK only drops in SO - at least that is the only place I have looted it.

It drops from chests in Cyrodiil dungeons.

LonePirate

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

I was just gonna say: I am pretty sure v14 MK only drops in SO - at least that is the only place I have looted it.

You are incorrect. VR14 Martial Knowledge pieces definitely do drop from the chests in Cyrodiil. They are rare drops; but they certainly do drop. I have looted several of the VR14 MK pieces I have found in Cyrodiil chests.

johndawntb14_ESO

Just got back to ESO after a long (since a month after launch) break. This was the first thing I saw and just want to say I plan on sticking around for a while this time (between going BtP and actually improving PvP aspects you're treating your PvP community so much better than *cough* another company with similar PvP).

So... Cheers

renton1x1x1

nice:)

Laggus

This is definitely great news and a decent way for PvP'rs to get some needed XP.

Hypertionb14_ESO

well its official.. i might seriously be doing more PvP than before.

Islyn

LonePirate wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

I was just gonna say: I am pretty sure v14 MK only drops in SO - at least that is the only place I have looted it.

You are incorrect. VR14 Martial Knowledge pieces definitely do drop from the chests in Cyrodiil. They are rare drops; but they certainly do drop. I have looted several of the VR14 MK pieces I have found in Cyrodiil chests.

Dungeons or Dolmen? To clarify.

monkeyzealer

i would be happy if they would look at change how you lvl up Assualt and Support skill and make them not tied to alliance rank and like this where able to lvl up assault skill line by capturing keeps/resources and maybe even killing players and have support skill line lvl up by repair keeps and healing people.

Costismaros

Lets see how it goes.
I am sure the players will exploit it that much that they have to change it back as it is now.

Costismaros

Tryionn66 wrote: »

One problem solved. I am so happy i could cry.

Now on to the lag issues

Do not forget that this game has been made 32 bit. This will bring more lag.
There is no way to fix the lag.

sean.plackerb14_ESO

Costismaros wrote: »

Tryionn66 wrote: »

One problem solved. I am so happy i could cry.

Now on to the lag issues

Do not forget that this game has been made 32 bit. This will bring more lag.
There is no way to fix the lag.

/facepalm

Weberda

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

I was just gonna say: I am pretty sure v14 MK only drops in SO - at least that is the only place I have looted it.

You are incorrect. VR14 Martial Knowledge pieces definitely do drop from the chests in Cyrodiil. They are rare drops; but they certainly do drop. I have looted several of the VR14 MK pieces I have found in Cyrodiil chests.

Dungeons or Dolmen? To clarify.

I can confirm that VR14 MK pieces drop in Cyrodiil. I found a LA glove piece I believe in one of the delves involved with the dailies. I gave it to a fellow Pacter who was pretty happy about it.

Sublime

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Yeah, this is good news, guys, BUT...

I'm still annoyed at the VR12 thing. Why are they torturing VR14 players by offering so few places to get max level loot? Even in Craglorn you only have access to to VR13 without grouping.

And what about itemization? Are we actually going to be able to get GOOD VR12 drops from these mobs? I'm talking about Warlock and Syrabane rings...

I suspect one of the reasons VR12 was chosen instead of VR14 was to keep VR14 gear locked behind treasure chests, gold pledge keys, Vet DSA and SO. Another reason might be a desire to keep Upper Craglorn above all of the other zones in the game. This is all speculation on my part.

As for the loot, Dreugh King Slayer and Syrabane pieces drop from mobs in Cyrodiil. I have never seen them drop Warlock pieces. As stated above, dolmen chests and treasure chests drop Air, Fire and Martial Knowledge pieces all at your character level which will be VR14 for many players.

I was just gonna say: I am pretty sure v14 MK only drops in SO - at least that is the only place I have looted it.

You are incorrect. VR14 Martial Knowledge pieces definitely do drop from the chests in Cyrodiil. They are rare drops; but they certainly do drop. I have looted several of the VR14 MK pieces I have found in Cyrodiil chests.

Dungeons or Dolmen? To clarify.

I got a V14 sash from a Dolmen in Cyrodiil a couple of days ago. I however think they heavily nerfed the droprate since a friend of mine got ~8 pieces within 10h, while I needed to farm 12h for a single piece, could also just be Karma.

Naor_Sarethi

Finally some good news. I enjoy PvP by now even at veteran as healer, so this should be a good time filler until better and new questing content comes available.

Davadin

From today's patch notes:

Alliance War

General

Significantly increased siege weapon damage against other player characters.
Increased trebuchet damage against keep walls.
Increased the XP received from killing other players by 50%.
Increased the XP provided by many of the less lucrative quests in Cyrodiil.
Increased the stats of a battle leveled player character in Cyrodiil to those of a VR12 player character.
Reduced the XP received from some guards at the Scroll gates.
Increased the level of all monsters in Cyrodiil to VR12 so they provide more XP per kill.
Reduced the damage and health of guards so they are at a similar power level to the old VR5 guards.



What's with the last one?

Everything else is awesome but WHY the need to reduce their damage and health, just so they can stay as canon fodder and just be there for the XP and XP alone?

In my honest personal opinion, if you're hitting a VR12 mob, and getting VR12 drops and XP, they damn well be worth it. Unless they change PvE world so that VR12 hits like a VR5.... I don't see how this can add any value to Cyrodiil....

I'm sorry, I guess nothing REALLY wrong with it, it's just that I feel like we're being spoonfed in order to cater to the newbies casuals...

PS: everything else is awesome.

technohic

Davadin wrote: »

From today's patch notes:

Alliance War

General

Significantly increased siege weapon damage against other player characters.
Increased trebuchet damage against keep walls.
Increased the XP received from killing other players by 50%.
Increased the XP provided by many of the less lucrative quests in Cyrodiil.
Increased the stats of a battle leveled player character in Cyrodiil to those of a VR12 player character.
Reduced the XP received from some guards at the Scroll gates.
Increased the level of all monsters in Cyrodiil to VR12 so they provide more XP per kill.
Reduced the damage and health of guards so they are at a similar power level to the old VR5 guards.



What's with the last one?

Everything else is awesome but WHY the need to reduce their damage and health, just so they can stay as canon fodder and just be there for the XP and XP alone?

In my honest personal opinion, if you're hitting a VR12 mob, and getting VR12 drops and XP, they damn well be worth it. Unless they change PvE world so that VR12 hits like a VR5.... I don't see how this can add any value to Cyrodiil....

I'm sorry, I guess nothing REALLY wrong with it, it's just that I feel like we're being spoonfed in order to cater to the newbies casuals...

PS: everything else is awesome.

Do you think that the guards need buffed as they were prior to the patch? Think they were already stronger than VR10 mobs when they were VR5 so thats all they are doing is keeping their difficulty the same while raising the XP from them.

Davadin

technohic wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

From today's patch notes:

Alliance War

General

Significantly increased siege weapon damage against other player characters.
Increased trebuchet damage against keep walls.
Increased the XP received from killing other players by 50%.
Increased the XP provided by many of the less lucrative quests in Cyrodiil.
Increased the stats of a battle leveled player character in Cyrodiil to those of a VR12 player character.
Reduced the XP received from some guards at the Scroll gates.
Increased the level of all monsters in Cyrodiil to VR12 so they provide more XP per kill.
Reduced the damage and health of guards so they are at a similar power level to the old VR5 guards.



What's with the last one?

Everything else is awesome but WHY the need to reduce their damage and health, just so they can stay as canon fodder and just be there for the XP and XP alone?

In my honest personal opinion, if you're hitting a VR12 mob, and getting VR12 drops and XP, they damn well be worth it. Unless they change PvE world so that VR12 hits like a VR5.... I don't see how this can add any value to Cyrodiil....

I'm sorry, I guess nothing REALLY wrong with it, it's just that I feel like we're being spoonfed in order to cater to the newbies casuals...

PS: everything else is awesome.

Do you think that the guards need buffed as they were prior to the patch? Think they were already stronger than VR10 mobs when they were VR5 so thats all they are doing is keeping their difficulty the same while raising the XP from them.

i just got back from 3mth hiatus. before, it's a pain in the butt to escape when a handful of NPC spotted you in a resource.... hits like a truck.

did a bit of pvp and pve in cyro last night and not once i feel like i'm threaten. hell, one point i got an NPC *and* a VR14 DK hitting on me, and as I focused on the DK (and finally won), i can totally *TOTALLY* ignored the NPC.... this is last night during the scroll steal in Thornblade.

That ain't cool.

When somebody, something, hitting your head with a big sword, you NEED to be worried. People need to think twice about taking more than 1, NPC or not. I'm already cautious against more than 1 player, but as of last night, an NPC is.... meh.

Well, we'll see tonight I suppose. If they're kinda like VR10, then maybe it's fine.

Rust_in_Peace

It's a start but it's still not enough. Played for about 4 and half hours last night, got about 120k AP and 225k exp. Objectives, like defensive and offensive ticks, need to return more exp and you need to dial back the exp penalty when grouped with other people to make player kills worthwhile.

Avindra

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

It's a start but it's still not enough. Played for about 4 and half hours last night, got about 120k AP and 225k exp. Objectives, like defensive and offensive ticks, need to return more exp and you need to dial back the exp penalty when grouped with other people to make player kills worthwhile.

4.5 hours for 225k xp
you can get 450k per hour in PVE mob grinding the very few spots that are left.

I was hoping to be able to get as much xp per hour doing PVP stuff as I would doing PVE stuff.