rophez_ESO wrote: »A lot of circumstantial evidence and rumors. Taken individually, I wouldn't give them a second glance. Unfortunately, two facts make me consider that B2P is probably in the near future: Zenimax's resounding silence regarding certain rumors (stock pulled from shelves in particular), and the imminent release of the console version.
Console release as B2P with monetized DLC makes a lot of sense. I don't think it makes sense to have a different payment scheme for PC players, especially when I'm sure ZOS/Bethsoft are hoping for huge console sales in relation to the PC sales.
lordrichter wrote: »Meanwhile, the rumor is false: https://twitter.com/bethblog/status/409085013397733376
clocksstoppe wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »Meanwhile, the rumor is false: https://twitter.com/bethblog/status/409085013397733376
just because they want you to assume it's false doesn't mean it's false m8.
Hey everyone
I have read rumour about ESO go to become B2P due to console launch do anyone know if it is true could we get answer from ZoS about this and if PC version is go to B2P as well and why in that case should PC version get affect??
As i say it is just rumour but it would be nice to get some clarity in all this rumour go around.
Hey everyone
I have read rumour about ESO go to become B2P due to console launch ...
What will the subscription fee be for consoles?
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rophez_ESO wrote: »A lot of circumstantial evidence and rumors. Taken individually, I wouldn't give them a second glance. Unfortunately, two facts make me consider that B2P is probably in the near future: Zenimax's resounding silence regarding certain rumors (stock pulled from shelves in particular), and the imminent release of the console version.
Console release as B2P with monetized DLC makes a lot of sense. I don't think it makes sense to have a different payment scheme for PC players, especially when I'm sure ZOS/Bethsoft are hoping for huge console sales in relation to the PC sales.
rophez_ESO wrote: »A lot of circumstantial evidence and rumors. Taken individually, I wouldn't give them a second glance. Unfortunately, two facts make me consider that B2P is probably in the near future: Zenimax's resounding silence regarding certain rumors (stock pulled from shelves in particular), and the imminent release of the console version.
Console release as B2P with monetized DLC makes a lot of sense. I don't think it makes sense to have a different payment scheme for PC players, especially when I'm sure ZOS/Bethsoft are hoping for huge console sales in relation to the PC sales.
My problem with the information about the game being pulled from shelves -
Especially in regards to F2P - Why would a company pull a product from the shelves before it goes F2P? They could continue to sell units up until that point. It makes no sense from a business or logical point of view.
"Hey guys, we better get those ESO copies off the shelf, we might accidently sell some before ZOS announces that it is F2P!!" - Company executive who will not be a company executive much longer.
As far as B2P goes - If it is B2P with no subscription fee, then AGAIN why would they remove them from the shelves? Even after ZOS announces the games is going B2P, the company would still be selling the game! I mean it is BUY 2 PLAY why would they remove it from the shelves??!!??
Unless I'm missing something it makes zero sense to me.
rophez_ESO wrote: »A lot of circumstantial evidence and rumors. Taken individually, I wouldn't give them a second glance. Unfortunately, two facts make me consider that B2P is probably in the near future: Zenimax's resounding silence regarding certain rumors (stock pulled from shelves in particular), and the imminent release of the console version.
Console release as B2P with monetized DLC makes a lot of sense. I don't think it makes sense to have a different payment scheme for PC players, especially when I'm sure ZOS/Bethsoft are hoping for huge console sales in relation to the PC sales.
rophez_ESO wrote: »A lot of circumstantial evidence and rumors. Taken individually, I wouldn't give them a second glance. Unfortunately, two facts make me consider that B2P is probably in the near future: Zenimax's resounding silence regarding certain rumors (stock pulled from shelves in particular), and the imminent release of the console version.
Console release as B2P with monetized DLC makes a lot of sense. I don't think it makes sense to have a different payment scheme for PC players, especially when I'm sure ZOS/Bethsoft are hoping for huge console sales in relation to the PC sales.
This, right here. Long term subs pulled. Hard copies and game cards pulled from the shelves of Harvey Norman, EB and JB HI-FI in Australia. Console release imminent. Take from it what you will, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring certain *clues* isn't necessarily the brightest thing to do. These signs happened before SWTOR went with a f2p model also and the masses cried it would NEVER happen..... just sayin....
I am guessing with the removal of the 6 month subscription some retailers with are getting new stock took a look and realized something wasn't going well at ZoS and decided to replace the stock with new games and such.
There are really too many rational explanations for these two events to hold any stock in a subscription model change. As science says, the simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation.
Except this is business not science. Xbox one is a good example that logic isn't always sound.
How many threads is this now? Although this is B2P instead of F2P so it's a start ....
Make it stop. Please someone make it stop.
Even after any such input from ZOS the speculation will continue, rendering it pointless....
And whether you like it or not, the speculation will continue until simple, no BS answers come from ZOS.
How many threads is this now? Although this is B2P instead of F2P so it's a start ....
Make it stop. Please someone make it stop.
How many comments in these threads that bump them back to the top that simply say "another one?" You want it to stop? Easy, don't post in this thread...
And no, I don't want it to stop. I want no BS answers about:
1. removal of 6 month sub option as a new payment option but why it can still be renewed as 6 months.
2. continuing reports that some physical copy vendors (not just EB Australia any longer) are telling their outlets to remove ESO from shelves,
3. Why are gametime cards also being removed from those same stores, and
4. Why is this happening only in Australia and NA retailers are continuing box and game time cards sales as usual.
Now those 4 things are not rumors - those are facts. The rumors are the speculation about what all those things add up to.
And whether you like it or not, the speculation will continue until simple, no BS answers come from ZOS.
nerevarine1138 wrote: »How many threads is this now? Although this is B2P instead of F2P so it's a start ....
Make it stop. Please someone make it stop.
How many comments in these threads that bump them back to the top that simply say "another one?" You want it to stop? Easy, don't post in this thread...
And no, I don't want it to stop. I want no BS answers about:
1. removal of 6 month sub option as a new payment option but why it can still be renewed as 6 months.
2. continuing reports that some physical copy vendors (not just EB Australia any longer) are telling their outlets to remove ESO from shelves,
3. Why are gametime cards also being removed from those same stores, and
4. Why is this happening only in Australia and NA retailers are continuing box and game time cards sales as usual.
Now those 4 things are not rumors - those are facts. The rumors are the speculation about what all those things add up to.
And whether you like it or not, the speculation will continue until simple, no BS answers come from ZOS.
1. There weren't enough people getting it, and they make more money from the other subs.
2. "Continuing reports" from one source that apparently thinks that one chain in Australia constitutes a country-wide shortage of games. IGN is desperate to appear journalistic. No one with any sense is buying it.
3. See above.
4. See above.
ZO started out their game with a very simple, no BS explanation: there are no plans to take the game in the free-to-play direction. Your insistence on not believing that will not change if they say the same thing again.