Can we have an European Thornblade (EU) topic?

DeanTheCat

What I'm hoping for is some fights around the clock, as my timezone doesn't really lend itself to playing at EU prime time (It's 2-3am for me ).

I'll be there waiting for you guys to show up in the morning(Relative to EU), else I'll be reduced to swiss-cheesing keeps for fun. Had enough of that for the past 2-3 weeks, and I rather not have to keep doing it.

Etaniel

Turelus wrote: »

Right now most WJ groups are from 12-24 depending on the time of day. I think you would get more small gang before peak times.

We're only really hitting the 40's on our guild raid/meeting nights when everyone comes online for that once a week gathering.

We've also recruited a lot more small gang and solo PvP players over the last months who tend to make little groups. I've also tried what I can to get the EP to lay off night capping in hopes it makes for a better campaign for everyone.

No promises on any of that though I'm afraid.

For me and my guildies, 12-24 is a guild raid, not small scale. 40 people is just.... nonsense in our books ^^
But play as you will, as long as we find groups of 8-10 or less we should be happy

Turelus

Etaniel wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Right now most WJ groups are from 12-24 depending on the time of day. I think you would get more small gang before peak times.

We're only really hitting the 40's on our guild raid/meeting nights when everyone comes online for that once a week gathering.

We've also recruited a lot more small gang and solo PvP players over the last months who tend to make little groups. I've also tried what I can to get the EP to lay off night capping in hopes it makes for a better campaign for everyone.

No promises on any of that though I'm afraid.

For me and my guildies, 12-24 is a guild raid, not small scale. 40 people is just.... nonsense in our books ^^
But play as you will, as long as we find groups of 8-10 or less we should be happy

Aye, that's why I said more small scale before peak times.

At those times we have most of the guild who are active looking for PvP and wanting to group up. Many of the guild also look for large PvP battles as ESO advertised to offer, smaller groups may form but for keep/siege warfare we want an actual war like all those trailers.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Turelus wrote: »

Wabbajack will test Axe for the first week, if it doesn't give any PvP or becomes one sided for EP we'll probably move to Trueflame.

Won't be there other than the odd one off raids until after azura ends depending on how things go with the campaign

Crogster

I have announced today that EDC will be trying out the New campaign as I strongly believe this is how the campaigns should be. We will be joining once the current Azura campaign has ended.

Turelus

Thanks for the update Crogster. What's the ending time on AS?

themdogesbite

Turelus wrote: »

Thanks for the update Crogster. What's the ending time on AS?

8 Days 14 Hours.

ToRelax

I may look into Axe then, too.

AbraXuSeXile

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Right now most WJ groups are from 12-24 depending on the time of day. I think you would get more small gang before peak times.

We're only really hitting the 40's on our guild raid/meeting nights when everyone comes online for that once a week gathering.

We've also recruited a lot more small gang and solo PvP players over the last months who tend to make little groups. I've also tried what I can to get the EP to lay off night capping in hopes it makes for a better campaign for everyone.

No promises on any of that though I'm afraid.

For me and my guildies, 12-24 is a guild raid, not small scale. 40 people is just.... nonsense in our books ^^
But play as you will, as long as we find groups of 8-10 or less we should be happy

Aye, that's why I said more small scale before peak times.

At those times we have most of the guild who are active looking for PvP and wanting to group up. Many of the guild also look for large PvP battles as ESO advertised to offer, smaller groups may form but for keep/siege warfare we want an actual war like all those trailers.

Lol

killimandrosb16_ESO

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Lol

Is this eXile from WARhammer?

Erondil

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

Lava_Croft

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

AbraXuSeXile

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Lol

Is this eXile from WARhammer?

Uhm possibly, we was multi gaming back then and a division leader had the reigns, but nothing to do with me as i was leading AoC.

Erondil

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

Etaniel

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Turelus

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

Etaniel

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

Well, when the 40 man zerg has no situational awareness, and the small group knows what it's doing, it actually is a good idea

Leandor

Etaniel wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

Well, when the 40 man zerg has no situational awareness, and the small group knows what it's doing, it actually is a good idea

Talk about self burn...

Etaniel

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

Also I'm guessing you are talking about BSquad as it's been a while since I actually picked a campaign and stayed there

SHADOW2KK

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

Have to point out a wee inconsistency here:P

#banter

If you did not care to be burnt or w/e

Then why post?:P

Not only did ya post to the dude, but then justified it by commenting on what he allegedly did?

Seems like ya care to me imo

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

If you did not care to be burnt or w/e

Then why post?:P

Wouldn't be a good thread if no one posted now would it

Garion

"We only really get a 40 man raid up once a week really, most of us love small scale".

Proceeds to play in a 40 man zerg daily and pretends it is fine and dandy they lag everything out.

GG.

SHADOW2KK

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Erondil wrote: »

New campaign :
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg
zerg

So basically nothing changed!

Basically not. Players from your guild are so bad when they're less than 10 though, I had fun trolling them when I was alone. I mean no offence, but 8v1 still one spamming encase onesteel tornado, one healing springs... its just laughable.

b b b b b b b b buuuuuuuuuuurned

Pretty sure we have to care to be burnt.

We're not the ones who left the campaign and cried on the forums after thinking it was a smart idea to take a small group into the middle of a 40vs40 battle.

If you did not care to be burnt or w/e

Then why post?:P

Wouldn't be a good thread if no one posted now would it

Hehe aye, true story.

Turelus

Depends what you consider caring, care about insults and such not really. I laugh and smile and am grinning at my stupidity as I did kind of walk into that one.

Care enough to post? Sure, I want to have a back and forth, some forums PvP and engagement with the community that I enjoy sparing with.

SHADOW2KK

Turelus wrote: »

Depends what you consider caring, care about insults and such not really. I laugh and smile and am grinning at my stupidity as I did kind of walk into that one.

Care enough to post? Sure, I want to have a back and forth, some forums PvP and engagement with the community that I enjoy sparing with.

Lol fair enough man, and yeah you did walk into it, as previously disclaimed, it was a banter sarcastic post of mine:P

I do vaguely remember you when I was in Wabba last year though.

Forum PvP is good too if its banter and not evil shizzle.

Etaniel

Garion wrote: »

"We only really get a 40 man raid up once a week really, most of us love small scale".

Proceeds to play in a 40 man zerg daily and pretends it is fine and dandy they lag everything out.

GG.

What made me laugh the most is when he said "Just try not to kill the campaign." on the axe of belharza thread

Turelus

I honestly swear WJ did our best not to kill the campaign with capping.

We stopped after Emperor keeps, we didn't night-cap as we legitimately do want constant 24/7 PvP again. Sadly we don't control the entire Pact and other guilds and randoms kept pushing.

The problem is I think we are one of the few guild still around looking for large scale skirmishes as well as small gang, most of our enemies (as shown in this thread) want small gang up to 12v12 to show their skill as individual players.

We could make small 12 man groups, we have some great 1vX players in the guild. However what are the other 30 members online in the guild meant to do then, and the ones who are not great 1vX players and join the larger raids as they contribute more and enjoy the social aspects of it.

I've seen Bannana Squad wreck entire 30 player groups with their small ones, they are good players with skill and coordination. However every time they do lose it "lag blah blah" "zerg blah blah". I guarantee if they had wiped both the EP and DC 40man raids last night we would see massive epeening about it rather than complaints.

The battles with DC last night were fantastic, we wipe them, they wiped us, they stole keeps, we stole keeps. It felt back like the old days of large battles and crazy clashes without the crippling lag. Sadly it doesn't last.

VagabondAngel

Etaniel wrote: »

What made me laugh the most is when he said "Just try not to kill the campaign." on the axe of belharza thread

If you want to point fingers, save at least one for the 40+ DC who forced us to run our 24 group and 12 group together instead of splitting up.

"You started it"

"No, they started it"

Who cares? Seems someone will always start it and then you either wipe wipe wipe or follow suit. (Except Banana Squad, who arrived to farm scrubs and instead found 60+ semi-organised and got wiped themselves).

The fault as always is with game mechanics that benefit blobs with meta-build skill spam.

Etaniel

Turelus wrote: »

I honestly swear WJ did our best not to kill the campaign with capping.

We stopped after Emperor keeps, we didn't night-cap as we legitimately do want constant 24/7 PvP again. Sadly we don't control the entire Pact and other guilds and randoms kept pushing.

The problem is I think we are one of the few guild still around looking for large scale skirmishes as well as small gang, most of our enemies (as shown in this thread) want small gang up to 12v12 to show their skill as individual players.

We could make small 12 man groups, we have some great 1vX players in the guild. However what are the other 30 members online in the guild meant to do then, and the ones who are not great 1vX players and join the larger raids as they contribute more and enjoy the social aspects of it.

I've seen Bannana Squad wreck entire 30 player groups with their small ones, they are good players with skill and coordination. However every time they do lose it "lag blah blah" "zerg blah blah". I guarantee if they had wiped both the EP and DC 40man raids last night we would see massive epeening about it rather than complaints.

The battles with DC last night were fantastic, we wipe them, they wiped us, they stole keeps, we stole keeps. It felt back like the old days of large battles and crazy clashes without the crippling lag. Sadly it doesn't last.

Stop saying 12v12 is small scale plz.
You don't need to be a "good 1vX player" to be good in a 12 man group. The group is already big enough that the only instructions/communications needed for 95% of the fights are spam aoe here, now spam aoe there, move over there, spam ultis on crown now.

And if you did make 12 man groups, and you had 30 members left in the guild wondering what to do.... well wtf a 30 man zerg isn't big enough for them??? It's already bigger than 90% of groups/guilds playing against you. Especially since that 30 man group will most likely have pugs running behind them, you're looking at a 40 man zerg while you can have your 12 man group running separately. 40 man ain't enough for you big war fantasies?

Etaniel

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

What made me laugh the most is when he said "Just try not to kill the campaign." on the axe of belharza thread

If you want to point fingers, save at least one for the 40+ DC who forced us to run our 24 group and 12 group together instead of splitting up.

"You started it"

"No, they started it"

Who cares? Seems someone will always start it and then you either wipe wipe wipe or follow suit. (Except Banana Squad, who arrived to farm scrubs and instead found 60+ semi-organised and got wiped themselves).

The fault as always is with game mechanics that benefit blobs with meta-build skill spam.

If you fall upon a 40 man DC train, then of course I understand that you want to merge groups and face them with equal numbers, it only makes sense. But I doubt that every time you ran with such numbers it was because you were triggered by a larger force on the enemy side.

And of course I point fingers in all directions, EP, DC and AD all have or have had their lag trains trying to justify themselves.