Can we have an European Thornblade (EU) topic?

Erondil

Tankqull wrote: »

pppontus wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

pppontus wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

One thing is pretty clear: The Ebonheart Pact only needs a lock to two bars to own Thornblade, while our enemies need each other to accomplish the same, doing exactly the same things, but presenting it as something different.

FTFY.

As much as I hate gate camping, after the way that EP has ruined Thornblade for so long, this sounds like people taking their sweet revenge. You can argue that nightcapping is a part of the game and that war is 24/7, but to have one faction routinely take everything they lose (the second they have opposition) every single night/morning.. well, I guess your neighbours got tired of your *** and *** you up.

Most factions don't have enough night workers, unemployed, students or weird timezone people to nightcap 365 days a year, if you do it for long enough - expect consequences. (Look, I even gave you a day off on leap years).

And if you cannot see how this is related to the outnumbered comments earlier, you are missing the point. You don't win in primetime, you never have. Being outnumbered refers to the fact that you always cap when everyone else is sleeping, with much higher numbers. You say people should deal with it and organize themselves during nighttime (a common argument), well then you better just deal with this.. right?

What you are basically saying is that all the crying about EP zergs and EP nightcapping wasn't really whining about EP zergs and EP nightcapping, but whining about the lack of people on both AD and DC to do the exact same thing. Now that you do have the people to do the exact same thing, we all see what happens.

Pot, kettle, etc.

there is no lack in the other alliances - these guys are just not painting thorn blue or yellow but haderus, chill and azura...

Are you sure about that? I mean, do you see people online on any of those campaigns at 3-8 AM because I don't?

I know people gate camp and do stupid *** on all alliances, but I don't think any other alliance has people who cap the maps after 3 AM more than occasionally and certainly not daily..? I can't be sure because I am rarely ever online at that time, but the times I've been there is low pop everywhere except EP on thorn.

yes i am
instead of going to bed directly after arriving home after my night shift i loged in for a few minutes
Thursday ~6:30 AM CEST


make out of it what you like

Well you took as example a very special day : Haderus and Chillrend reseted yesterday morning. An AD guild nightcapped haderus to get emp easily, and a DC guild did same on chillrend. Eventhough its a disgusting practice, I dont think those guys will nightcap everynight. I'm sure if you take a screen tomorrow at the same hour, or any other day beside the reset, you will see all low on every camp except reds on thorn. On thorn those last campaigns it was low everywhere except reds high/lock every morning, not only at the reset.
Good try to take a screen at this special moment used by few ppl to hey emp easily tho

Tankqull

Erondil wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

pppontus wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

pppontus wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

One thing is pretty clear: The Ebonheart Pact only needs a lock to two bars to own Thornblade, while our enemies need each other to accomplish the same, doing exactly the same things, but presenting it as something different.

FTFY.

As much as I hate gate camping, after the way that EP has ruined Thornblade for so long, this sounds like people taking their sweet revenge. You can argue that nightcapping is a part of the game and that war is 24/7, but to have one faction routinely take everything they lose (the second they have opposition) every single night/morning.. well, I guess your neighbours got tired of your *** and *** you up.

Most factions don't have enough night workers, unemployed, students or weird timezone people to nightcap 365 days a year, if you do it for long enough - expect consequences. (Look, I even gave you a day off on leap years).

And if you cannot see how this is related to the outnumbered comments earlier, you are missing the point. You don't win in primetime, you never have. Being outnumbered refers to the fact that you always cap when everyone else is sleeping, with much higher numbers. You say people should deal with it and organize themselves during nighttime (a common argument), well then you better just deal with this.. right?

What you are basically saying is that all the crying about EP zergs and EP nightcapping wasn't really whining about EP zergs and EP nightcapping, but whining about the lack of people on both AD and DC to do the exact same thing. Now that you do have the people to do the exact same thing, we all see what happens.

Pot, kettle, etc.

there is no lack in the other alliances - these guys are just not painting thorn blue or yellow but haderus, chill and azura...

Are you sure about that? I mean, do you see people online on any of those campaigns at 3-8 AM because I don't?

I know people gate camp and do stupid *** on all alliances, but I don't think any other alliance has people who cap the maps after 3 AM more than occasionally and certainly not daily..? I can't be sure because I am rarely ever online at that time, but the times I've been there is low pop everywhere except EP on thorn.

yes i am
instead of going to bed directly after arriving home after my night shift i loged in for a few minutes
Thursday ~6:30 AM CEST


make out of it what you like

Well you took as example a very special day : Haderus and Chillrend reseted yesterday morning. An AD guild nightcapped haderus to get emp easily, and a DC guild did same on chillrend. Eventhough its a disgusting practice, I dont think those guys will nightcap everynight. I'm sure if you take a screen tomorrow at the same hour, or any other day beside the reset, you will see all low on every camp except reds on thorn. On thorn those last campaigns it was low everywhere except reds high/lock every morning, not only at the reset.
Good try to take a screen at this special moment used by few ppl to hey emp easily tho

didn´t even know that, but i give you that that might screw the numbers but haderus and chill are nightcaped when ever someone dares to brake their buff server status...

pppontus

Edit: Nvm, can't be bothered. TL;DR version = all factions gatecamp, all factions zerg, all factions make the game unplayable at times. I watched an emp spam meteor for 30 secs straight until my game crashed, those 2 hours was enough veteran pvp for me this week.

Etaniel

So a red raid leader literally just sent us "player x from dc and player y from AD keep using meteor, so our 48 man raid will keep spamming meteor as well"
That's EP for you

Kilmister

Quick update on Thornblade events, drama and developments for the past few hours...

It's your fault

No, it's you

No you

No U

Yes it's yr fault

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Stop it

You stop it

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Erondil

Etaniel wrote: »

So a red raid leader literally just sent us "player x from dc and player y from AD keep using meteor, so our 48 man raid will keep spamming meteor as well"
That's EP for you

Surprising!

Sanct16

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

VagabondAngel

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Lava_Croft

*cricket*

AbraXuSeXile

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Was it good PvP when EP did painted map red every single day? What your feeling is the same feeling as the DC and AD felt everyday and even forced most guilds out of Thorn.

There is 3 days to go and EP cannot win now, We didnt even pick up a siege weapon today. It just shows the true nature of EP to not even bother putting up a fight because they cant nightcap

Like i said in an earlier post, the job is done and i'm sure you will be given breathing space. Lets see if your guild will conform to the old routines or will take a new line of approach.

Also we attacked the strong, which is no longer strong because you dont have the resillience or willpower to fight against the odds as you've had a cushy life on Thorn

Etaniel

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

I wouldn't actually say that. Thorn is the only campaign where you can't get actual PvP, because it's the zergiest, the one with the most ridiculous trains, on all sides.

My comment was just to denote how sad that 48 man train is. Their encounters with our group was already laggy just because of the numbers (both sides are responsible), but they spammed meteors on every single encounter, making things even worse. We disengaged the blob fight more than once, and suffered from at least 10 delayed meteor knockbacks 15-20 sec later. And their excuse is : "well this one guy uses it so we'll use it to". I'm sorry but it really feels like we're dealing with a 5 year old here.

If you want actual PvP, you don't group up in a 50 man raid

Legedric

Well, I thinks there are still more possibilities to encounter small scale combat and combat versus "noobs" on Thorn as on any other campaign as Thorn seems to be something like the entrance campaign for many newer PvP players.

At least that's my impression from being on Chill, Haderus and Thorn on a regular basis.

Sanct16

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Oh I actually didn't enjoy Thorn. I just enjoy the years of the former nightcappers. It was fun for some days but now it I don't even bother anymore.

I don't know what kind of pvp you like. Personally I would love to be in the position that ep is in in other campaigns. As Ep I would go to Chillrend. But this requires a 10+ group of course. If your playing with a very small group or solo finding fights is very hard anyway but I don't see how this changes when you have a red map.

ToRelax

Sanct16 wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Oh I actually didn't enjoy Thorn. I just enjoy the years of the former nightcappers. It was fun for some days but now it I don't even bother anymore.

I don't know what kind of pvp you like. Personally I would love to be in the position that ep is in in other campaigns. As Ep I would go to Chillrend. But this requires a 10+ group of course. If your playing with a very small group or solo finding fights is very hard anyway but I don't see how this changes when you have a red map.

Because this comment...

Etaniel wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

I wouldn't actually say that. Thorn is the only campaign where you can't get actual PvP, because it's the zergiest, the one with the most ridiculous trains, on all sides.

My comment was just to denote how sad that 48 man train is. Their encounters with our group was already laggy just because of the numbers (both sides are responsible), but they spammed meteors on every single encounter, making things even worse. We disengaged the blob fight more than once, and suffered from at least 10 delayed meteor knockbacks 15-20 sec later. And their excuse is : "well this one guy uses it so we'll use it to". I'm sorry but it really feels like we're dealing with a 5 year old here.

If you want actual PvP, you don't group up in a 50 man raid

...is simply wrong.

It may be that some of the largest zerg(ball)s, maybe the largest overall, are usually on Thorn.
But what is definitely true is that Thornblade has the most players who still run in small groups or roam around the randmo zerg, not sticking together in one giant AoE spamming ball.

Etaniel

ToRelax wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Oh I actually didn't enjoy Thorn. I just enjoy the years of the former nightcappers. It was fun for some days but now it I don't even bother anymore.

I don't know what kind of pvp you like. Personally I would love to be in the position that ep is in in other campaigns. As Ep I would go to Chillrend. But this requires a 10+ group of course. If your playing with a very small group or solo finding fights is very hard anyway but I don't see how this changes when you have a red map.

Because this comment...

Etaniel wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

I wouldn't actually say that. Thorn is the only campaign where you can't get actual PvP, because it's the zergiest, the one with the most ridiculous trains, on all sides.

My comment was just to denote how sad that 48 man train is. Their encounters with our group was already laggy just because of the numbers (both sides are responsible), but they spammed meteors on every single encounter, making things even worse. We disengaged the blob fight more than once, and suffered from at least 10 delayed meteor knockbacks 15-20 sec later. And their excuse is : "well this one guy uses it so we'll use it to". I'm sorry but it really feels like we're dealing with a 5 year old here.

If you want actual PvP, you don't group up in a 50 man raid

...is simply wrong.

It may be that some of the largest zerg(ball)s, maybe the largest overall, are usually on Thorn.
But what is definitely true is that Thornblade has the most players who still run in small groups or roam around the randmo zerg, not sticking together in one giant AoE spamming ball.

I'm talking about personnal experience. This whole week in Thorn I have not been able to do small scale, every where I went I either got roflzerged, or I had a horde of allies join me really fast. This same week, I played Azura and chillrend in small 4-5 man groups and had tons of fun. So maybe small scale is possible on Thorn, but for me it's way easier to find on other campaigns.

Tankqull

ToRelax wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Oh I actually didn't enjoy Thorn. I just enjoy the years of the former nightcappers. It was fun for some days but now it I don't even bother anymore.

I don't know what kind of pvp you like. Personally I would love to be in the position that ep is in in other campaigns. As Ep I would go to Chillrend. But this requires a 10+ group of course. If your playing with a very small group or solo finding fights is very hard anyway but I don't see how this changes when you have a red map.

Because this comment...

Etaniel wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

I wouldn't actually say that. Thorn is the only campaign where you can't get actual PvP, because it's the zergiest, the one with the most ridiculous trains, on all sides.

My comment was just to denote how sad that 48 man train is. Their encounters with our group was already laggy just because of the numbers (both sides are responsible), but they spammed meteors on every single encounter, making things even worse. We disengaged the blob fight more than once, and suffered from at least 10 delayed meteor knockbacks 15-20 sec later. And their excuse is : "well this one guy uses it so we'll use it to". I'm sorry but it really feels like we're dealing with a 5 year old here.

If you want actual PvP, you don't group up in a 50 man raid

...is simply wrong.

It may be that some of the largest zerg(ball)s, maybe the largest overall, are usually on Thorn.
But what is definitely true is that Thornblade has the most players who still run in small groups or roam around the randmo zerg, not sticking together in one giant AoE spamming ball.

this - and its the only server where ep is not gate camped 24/5

AbraXuSeXile

Grow some cahones and fight for a campaign or whatever, decimation elite was in Chillrend last i saw. Our favourite thing to do is start on a campaign with no keeps and no DC. So much PvP.

Legedric

Tankqull wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Oh I actually didn't enjoy Thorn. I just enjoy the years of the former nightcappers. It was fun for some days but now it I don't even bother anymore.

I don't know what kind of pvp you like. Personally I would love to be in the position that ep is in in other campaigns. As Ep I would go to Chillrend. But this requires a 10+ group of course. If your playing with a very small group or solo finding fights is very hard anyway but I don't see how this changes when you have a red map.

Because this comment...

Etaniel wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

I wouldn't actually say that. Thorn is the only campaign where you can't get actual PvP, because it's the zergiest, the one with the most ridiculous trains, on all sides.

My comment was just to denote how sad that 48 man train is. Their encounters with our group was already laggy just because of the numbers (both sides are responsible), but they spammed meteors on every single encounter, making things even worse. We disengaged the blob fight more than once, and suffered from at least 10 delayed meteor knockbacks 15-20 sec later. And their excuse is : "well this one guy uses it so we'll use it to". I'm sorry but it really feels like we're dealing with a 5 year old here.

If you want actual PvP, you don't group up in a 50 man raid

...is simply wrong.

It may be that some of the largest zerg(ball)s, maybe the largest overall, are usually on Thorn.
But what is definitely true is that Thornblade has the most players who still run in small groups or roam around the randmo zerg, not sticking together in one giant AoE spamming ball.

this - and its the only server where ep is not gate camped 24/5

Then move there with a group and start evening out the campaign?

I mean... if everyone retreats from a "enter opposite faction's name here" buff campaign because they have to break the gate camp and do some work to get their keeps back we will never get rid of these boring, one sided buff campaigns at all...

Tankqull

Legedric wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

Oh I actually didn't enjoy Thorn. I just enjoy the years of the former nightcappers. It was fun for some days but now it I don't even bother anymore.

I don't know what kind of pvp you like. Personally I would love to be in the position that ep is in in other campaigns. As Ep I would go to Chillrend. But this requires a 10+ group of course. If your playing with a very small group or solo finding fights is very hard anyway but I don't see how this changes when you have a red map.

Because this comment...

Etaniel wrote: »

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

That's EP for you

Sanct16 wrote: »

PACT STRONK!

#TrueStoryBro
#SayNoToNightcap

I'm glad you're enjoying your hate campaign, I really am.

When you've got a moment, spare a thought for those of us that rolled EP and actually like good PvP, something that is now next to impossible... on any campaign.

“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
― Sun Tzu

I wouldn't actually say that. Thorn is the only campaign where you can't get actual PvP, because it's the zergiest, the one with the most ridiculous trains, on all sides.

My comment was just to denote how sad that 48 man train is. Their encounters with our group was already laggy just because of the numbers (both sides are responsible), but they spammed meteors on every single encounter, making things even worse. We disengaged the blob fight more than once, and suffered from at least 10 delayed meteor knockbacks 15-20 sec later. And their excuse is : "well this one guy uses it so we'll use it to". I'm sorry but it really feels like we're dealing with a 5 year old here.

If you want actual PvP, you don't group up in a 50 man raid

...is simply wrong.

It may be that some of the largest zerg(ball)s, maybe the largest overall, are usually on Thorn.
But what is definitely true is that Thornblade has the most players who still run in small groups or roam around the randmo zerg, not sticking together in one giant AoE spamming ball.

this - and its the only server where ep is not gate camped 24/5

Then move there with a group and start evening out the campaign?

I mean... if everyone retreats from a "enter opposite faction's name here" buff campaign because they have to break the gate camp and do some work to get their keeps back we will never get rid of these boring, one sided buff campaigns at all...

thats quite ironic as AD/DC are bitching just about this situation on a much more balanced server than those other servers are
none the less that exactly what my guildmates and i are doing as we do not stand waiting for 60+ minutes to get some pvp in our 2-4man group

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

The EP qqueue for thorn is often 180+ if even half of that moved to a different campaign it would be a different story on those campaigns.

Also in autumn ad was focused in the same way by both factions. Only difference is we didn't give up. To be fair the lag wasn't as bad back then either.... neither were the pugs

Tankqull

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

The EP qqueue for thorn is often 180+ if even half of that moved to a different campaign it would be a different story on those campaigns.

Also in autumn ad was focused in the same way by both factions. Only difference is we didn't give up. To be fair the lag wasn't as bad back then either.... neither were the pugs

those in the queue are 99% random zerglings who have neither the skill nor the coordination to turn the tides of a AD/DC buff campaign.

Garion

Tankqull wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

The EP qqueue for thorn is often 180+ if even half of that moved to a different campaign it would be a different story on those campaigns.

Also in autumn ad was focused in the same way by both factions. Only difference is we didn't give up. To be fair the lag wasn't as bad back then either.... neither were the pugs

those in the queue are 99% random zerglings who have neither the skill nor the coordination to turn the tides of a AD/DC buff campaign.

If they behave the way they do on TB - i.e run in one huge group and lag flip keeps - I would say they'd make a pretty big impact on some of the other maps. I think they are worried though that they will only have 40 EP to blob up with, rather than the 60+ they have grown accustomed to on TB.

VagabondAngel

Garion wrote: »

If they behave the way they do on TB - i.e run in one huge group and lag flip keeps - I would say they'd make a pretty big impact on some of the other maps. I think they are worried though that they will only have 40 EP to blob up with, rather than the 60+ they have grown accustomed to on TB.

If someone mentions that Arrius lumber is being moved to Chillrend only, that might work.

pppontus

VagabondAngel wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

If they behave the way they do on TB - i.e run in one huge group and lag flip keeps - I would say they'd make a pretty big impact on some of the other maps. I think they are worried though that they will only have 40 EP to blob up with, rather than the 60+ they have grown accustomed to on TB.

If someone mentions that Arrius lumber is being moved to Chillrend only, that might work.

Arrius lumber

ToRelax

The reason we don't move to other campaigns is because it's frustrating seeing one's work to balance the campaign out get destroyed by the zergs that will inevitably show up - at least allied and probably on other factions, too.
Fighting through hordes of mindless PvD'ers on a one sided campaign is not exactly my idea of fun PvP. That we can only get like 1-2 days of one campaign cycle, and for that we already need a few good teams to have a presence 24/7.

Tankqull

Garion wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

The EP qqueue for thorn is often 180+ if even half of that moved to a different campaign it would be a different story on those campaigns.

Also in autumn ad was focused in the same way by both factions. Only difference is we didn't give up. To be fair the lag wasn't as bad back then either.... neither were the pugs

those in the queue are 99% random zerglings who have neither the skill nor the coordination to turn the tides of a AD/DC buff campaign.

If they behave the way they do on TB - i.e run in one huge group and lag flip keeps - I would say they'd make a pretty big impact on some of the other maps. I think they are worried though that they will only have 40 EP to blob up with, rather than the 60+ they have grown accustomed to on TB.

the problem remains you cant coordinate them to join a specific campaign as the game does not provide the communication channels to talk to the 120+ players in that queue spread over 30++ different instances/zones
the most you will reach are a handfull of players that do not stand any chance on any of the other campaigns

Isbilen

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

The EP qqueue for thorn is often 180+ if even half of that moved to a different campaign it would be a different story on those campaigns.

Meanwhile as DC I've only had to queue 3 times this campaign, never above position 4

Kryank

Well as a newcomer to ESO AvAvA (played GW2 WvWvW pretty hardcore) and a EP player on Thorn, the last couple of weeks (my first time) I have spent in Cyrodil on my now V10 NB has been the same as at any time in 3 realm pvp I have seen. 2 teams joining forces against another and trying to justify it any way they can, as far as I'm concerned it pvp anything goes (apart from cheats and expoits which I have seen a few from the greens but that's for a different topic).

Having blue emperors with a gank squad farming newbies like me at the spawn gates with 30k crystal fragments hits and siege to top it off makes me laugh, but it will surely put off a lot of randoms and newbies from playing PvP.

I don't mind this its PvP and some people need to stroke there epeen we all get it, but there is no need to some how try and justify this on the forums. It's not a moral crusade it's a game we all like and enjoy so less of the 'qq' more of the 'pew pew'.

no one likes getting rofl stomped but all sides have done it on all campaigns. The smurfs and their minions love to team up nothing wrong with that just don't pretend it's because of some evil empire, because believe me were not all bad on the EP side, and without us what would you do..... Skip around holding hands and blowing kisses at each other??

Anyway keep up the green alliance what will you do when we crush you both next campaign??.

Muwhahahahaha!!

See you on the battlefield.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Kryank wrote: »

Well as a newcomer to ESO AvAvA (played GW2 WvWvW pretty hardcore) and a EP player on Thorn, the last couple of weeks (my first time) I have spent in Cyrodil on my now V10 NB has been the same as at any time in 3 realm pvp I have seen. 2 teams joining forces against another and trying to justify it any way they can, as far as I'm concerned it pvp anything goes (apart from cheats and expoits which I have seen a few from the greens but that's for a different topic).

Having blue emperors with a gank squad farming newbies like me at the spawn gates with 30k crystal fragments hits and siege to top it off makes me laugh, but it will surely put off a lot of randoms and newbies from playing PvP.

I don't mind this its PvP and some people need to stroke there epeen we all get it, but there is no need to some how try and justify this on the forums. It's not a moral crusade it's a game we all like and enjoy so less of the 'qq' more of the 'pew pew'.

no one likes getting rofl stomped but all sides have done it on all campaigns. The smurfs and their minions love to team up nothing wrong with that just don't pretend it's because of some evil empire, because believe me were not all bad on the EP side, and without us what would you do..... Skip around holding hands and blowing kisses at each other??

Anyway keep up the green alliance what will you do when we crush you both next campaign??.

Muwhahahahaha!!

See you on the battlefield.

Answer is simple, you won't. For one point a lot of EP players left various guilds and the campaign as a whole. But anyway, eXile will leave this campaign after we won it, so yeah. Smash whoever you want, it's not us.

Tankqull

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Kryank wrote: »

Well as a newcomer to ESO AvAvA (played GW2 WvWvW pretty hardcore) and a EP player on Thorn, the last couple of weeks (my first time) I have spent in Cyrodil on my now V10 NB has been the same as at any time in 3 realm pvp I have seen. 2 teams joining forces against another and trying to justify it any way they can, as far as I'm concerned it pvp anything goes (apart from cheats and expoits which I have seen a few from the greens but that's for a different topic).

Having blue emperors with a gank squad farming newbies like me at the spawn gates with 30k crystal fragments hits and siege to top it off makes me laugh, but it will surely put off a lot of randoms and newbies from playing PvP.

I don't mind this its PvP and some people need to stroke there epeen we all get it, but there is no need to some how try and justify this on the forums. It's not a moral crusade it's a game we all like and enjoy so less of the 'qq' more of the 'pew pew'.

no one likes getting rofl stomped but all sides have done it on all campaigns. The smurfs and their minions love to team up nothing wrong with that just don't pretend it's because of some evil empire, because believe me were not all bad on the EP side, and without us what would you do..... Skip around holding hands and blowing kisses at each other??

Anyway keep up the green alliance what will you do when we crush you both next campaign??.

Muwhahahahaha!!

See you on the battlefield.

Answer is simple, you won't. For one point a lot of EP players left various guilds and the campaign as a whole. But anyway, eXile will leave this campaign after we won it, so yeah. Smash whoever you want, it's not us.

sorry to pop your bubble but "you" as Exile did not win it.
actually AD made you win this round as they supressed any attempt of EP pushing DC back.