Can we have an European Thornblade (EU) topic?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

1460 must be a new record. This Thornblade campaign is already over.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ Please do something about this before the last few people willing to put up with all the PvP problems are also leaving.

If that's how my faction kept pulling off last minute victories I'd be pretty embarrassed.

1. A small proportion of AD'S are happy about this. Most hate it too
2. Only affected the last campaign we didn't win because of it but it did put us in contention to then fight for the win I agree
3. We were capping the map when this times bonus occurred we were already on +300 points so didn't actually need the help to win.
4. I won't be embarrassed because of a broken mechanic and nothing to do with me. If people were exploiting or hacking in my group to do this then I would be but that's not happening

Turelus

People need to stop blaming each other for this dumb mechanic and go where the blame is due (ZOS).

I really look forward to the day it's modified or gone so we can go back to complaining about which colour alliance has been formed each day.

heng14rwb17_ESO

AD for the win.
Low population is justified.
Key is efficient war fighting machine.

Oswolf

themdogesbite

This is not ok zenimax.. 1460 points..

Hermod

Oswolf wrote: »

At this time, EP would should be locked

Lava_Croft

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

This is not ok zenimax.. 1460 points..

I want to note to @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ that this is the current AD Emperor of Thornblade saying that the low population bonus applied to his own faction is not OK.

Beyond everybody just quitting PvP altogether, what more do players have to do?

Turelus

Hermod wrote: »

Oswolf wrote: »

At this time, EP would should be locked

We should, but most of our guilds have said screw it and gone to PVE. We're not fighting this system for a second month in a row.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Lava_Croft wrote: »

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

This is not ok zenimax.. 1460 points..

I want to note to @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ that this is the current AD Emperor of Thornblade saying that the low population bonus applied to his own faction is not OK.

Beyond everybody just quitting PvP altogether, what more do players have to do?

Just trying to show off his Emp regalia for sure XD!

Jeddite_Eso

the 1460 is not the real record
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and this one is about activity atm

heng14rwb17_ESO

The pop bonus is given by ESO dev as a way to encourage those who has low numbers of players.
It is fair & just.

Hermod

heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »

The pop bonus is given by ESO dev as a way to encourage those who has low numbers of players.
It is fair & just.

Crap, how is it fair for a team that does not earn something, get given it, and all the other people that worked hard for it, gets shafted?

Explain please.

washlov

heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »

The pop bonus is given by ESO dev as a way to encourage those who has low numbers of players.
It is fair & just.

yea pve the map in the morning and get a bonus for that very fair

Koensol

Hermod wrote: »

heng14rwb17_ESO wrote: »

The pop bonus is given by ESO dev as a way to encourage those who has low numbers of players.
It is fair & just.

Crap, how is it fair for a team that does not earn something, get given it, and all the other people that worked hard for it, gets shafted?

Explain please.

Pssst! he's trolling.../whisper

Thudunblundur

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

1460 must be a new record. This Thornblade campaign is already over.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ Please do something about this before the last few people willing to put up with all the PvP problems are also leaving.

If that's how my faction kept pulling off last minute victories I'd be pretty embarrassed.

1. A small proportion of AD'S are happy about this. Most hate it too
2. Only affected the last campaign we didn't win because of it but it did put us in contention to then fight for the win I agree
3. We were capping the map when this times bonus occurred we were already on +300 points so didn't actually need the help to win.
4. I won't be embarrassed because of a broken mechanic and nothing to do with me. If people were exploiting or hacking in my group to do this then I would be but that's not happening

Yeah. You play Aldmeri Dominion. You got a 6000 + point advantage that took you from a long last to a 3000 point lead about half way through the campaign. Then nothing until around 10 days later you got another bonus that put you 500 ahead with 48 hours to go.

It put DC in second at key moments in the AvAvA game. Which is what was a major interest of a number of real gamers, myself included. You are bright enough to see what this means: attacked by first and third.

A pleasant and conciliatory manner after the fact means little from a member of a faction that has benefited to such an extent and refuses to even admit that this even LOOKS suspicious. If this isn't a....curiousity... on a scale we will all be proud to say "I was there" for from Zenimax then it has been abused. You are under suspicion, and a pleasant manner does not mean innocence. Or guilt.

daemonios

Thudunblundur wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

1460 must be a new record. This Thornblade campaign is already over.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ Please do something about this before the last few people willing to put up with all the PvP problems are also leaving.

If that's how my faction kept pulling off last minute victories I'd be pretty embarrassed.

1. A small proportion of AD'S are happy about this. Most hate it too
2. Only affected the last campaign we didn't win because of it but it did put us in contention to then fight for the win I agree
3. We were capping the map when this times bonus occurred we were already on +300 points so didn't actually need the help to win.
4. I won't be embarrassed because of a broken mechanic and nothing to do with me. If people were exploiting or hacking in my group to do this then I would be but that's not happening

Yeah. You play Aldmeri Dominion. You got a 6000 + point advantage that took you from a long last to a 3000 point lead about half way through the campaign. Then nothing until around 10 days later you got another bonus that put you 500 ahead with 48 hours to go.

It put DC in second at key moments in the AvAvA game. Which is what was a major interest of a number of real gamers, myself included. You are bright enough to see what this means: attacked by first and third.

A pleasant and conciliatory manner after the fact means little from a member of a faction that has benefited to such an extent and refuses to even admit that this even LOOKS suspicious. If this isn't a....curiousity... on a scale we will all proud to say "I was there" for from Zenimax then it has been abused. You are under suspicion, and a pleasant manner does not mean innocence. Or guilt.

I agree with others that simply removing the bonus AD got wouldn't give us the "true" outcome of the campaign. But it would be fairer, because it would reflect the work actually put in by each faction.

AD has the numbers to do total night caps (as seen last night) and to be pop locked in Thornblade (also seen today). They already have their buff server and they're trying to turn a 30-day campaign into another. I detest the idea of buff servers and would like to see PvP buffs removed from PvE or drastically changed so as to remove any incentive to dominate a campaign.

Thudunblundur

I'd also like to know more about this 4 hour span over which the low population is apparently calculated.

Firstly I'd like to know where the information is from, and if a player, what faction.

Secondly I'd like to know which time zone and when, because I don't want to pick on the poor persecuted Aldmeri Dominion when they are asleep.

Isbilen

A couple of elves keep glitching in to our keeps, probably with the help of a DC alt, to steal our scrolls without sieging.
Why am I not surprised that these guys play AD?

DlSTORTlON

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

On average, AD had significantly fewer players online. Fact. Therefore a low population bonus is justified. Fact.

My opinion would be that the bonus at the moment is disproportionate. Getting 4x multiplier on all points would seem reasonable if the alliance has a limited base score (up to three or four keeps / <80 points). However AD were able to do much more with their fewer players and were able to hold ~200 base points (~800 low population points) at times.

Does the system need a change? Probably. Limiting the amount of bonus points past a certain value would seem like a logical choice.

I retract this. I would rather the low population bonus be removed completely now. I would even go so far as asking for the campaign to be reset.

Jeddite_Eso wrote: »

22 hours later:

Nobody should want to win like this.

heng14rwb17_ESO

ESO dev maybe using the previous 3 campaigns as reference base to gauge the number of players in each alliance.
If so, then it is normal for AD to get pop bonus.

rsciw

Anyone care to translate the gibberish from GhostShadows into English? I feel like I'm missing out on some fun

I was wondering where we got the lead from. 1480/h is just way beyond ridiculous...

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Thudunblundur wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

1460 must be a new record. This Thornblade campaign is already over.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ Please do something about this before the last few people willing to put up with all the PvP problems are also leaving.

If that's how my faction kept pulling off last minute victories I'd be pretty embarrassed.

1. A small proportion of AD'S are happy about this. Most hate it too
2. Only affected the last campaign we didn't win because of it but it did put us in contention to then fight for the win I agree
3. We were capping the map when this times bonus occurred we were already on +300 points so didn't actually need the help to win.
4. I won't be embarrassed because of a broken mechanic and nothing to do with me. If people were exploiting or hacking in my group to do this then I would be but that's not happening

It put DC in second at key moments in the AvAvA game. Which is what was a major interest of a number of real gamers, myself included. You are bright enough to see what this means: attacked by first and third.

A pleasant and conciliatory manner after the fact means little from a member of a faction that has benefited to such an extent and refuses to even admit that this even LOOKS suspicious. If this isn't a....curiousity... on a scale we will all be proud to say "I was there" for from Zenimax then it has been abused. You are under suspicion, and a pleasant manner does not mean innocence. Or guilt.

DC was only under attack from AD actually EP were going for AD additionally AD were 2nd on the last day by a fair margin and we pulled it back for the victory thanks to the dedicated of our faction members

Be suspicious it's of no matter to me all I can tell you is how I see things it's on you to make your choice.

DaggerfallTradeMasters

Lava_Croft wrote: »

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

This is not ok zenimax.. 1460 points..

I want to note to @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ that this is the current AD Emperor of Thornblade saying that the low population bonus applied to his own faction is not OK.

Beyond everybody just quitting PvP altogether, what more do players have to do?

Ex emperor (which killed me a lot :P )
Glad to hear that you dont like the bonus.

Obus

DaggerfallTradeMasters wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

This is not ok zenimax.. 1460 points..

I want to note to @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ that this is the current AD Emperor of Thornblade saying that the low population bonus applied to his own faction is not OK.

Beyond everybody just quitting PvP altogether, what more do players have to do?

Ex emperor (which killed me a lot :P )
Glad to hear that you dont like the bonus.

None of us like that low pop bonus lol. We all know is breaking the campaign, but we are not zos to fix it.

GhostShadows

rsciw wrote: »

Anyone care to translate the gibberish from GhostShadows into English? I feel like I'm missing out on some fun

I was wondering where we got the lead from. 1480/h is just way beyond ridiculous...

I wonder if your Portuguese is so good as my English.
another broken ego , i promise the next time beat with less strength!!!

Thudunblundur

Ghost Shadows, this is rapidly killing pvp. DC numbers are much lower for this campaign than they were for the last campaign and a number who do still go to Cyrodiil don't play the campaign: they go to kill players and explore, but don't try for scrolls or to get them back, don't defend or attack keeps unless we feel like it - much less riding.
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Also, rsciw is AD.

GhostShadows

if u guys read my posts correctly, u will see i never said this bonus is fair like it is now.
i said as i remember and i dont want go read everything again.
is not so unfair like ppl think and i never saw it over 600 points.
now 1k+ like sume ppl show screen shots here yea is to much.
u cant remove this bonus completely, just fix it to a fair thing.
if this get completely removed, blues had already lost just before start other campains, and AD for sure had lot more trouble to win the last1 and this 1 i dont even will coment after see that screen shots.
wen i m in cyrodill i dont chek boards over and over again i just enjoy the fun.
with points or not i can have fun, but i cant have fun wen 50 ppl inside a keep just can look 1 single guy repairing the wall and we cant kill him cause the lag.
apart that u read and understand my posts as u want, this dont looks like a EU forun where every1 is free to say wat goes in hes mind without a ridiculous flame for forun achivents!!! that other ridiculous thing, forun achivements to make ppl without anything to say reply post after post with empty ideas.

Thudunblundur

I'm not going back over the posts again either. You say you don't look at scores etc, you play to have fun. Fair enough. I DO look at the scores and populations a lot because the 3-way war was my overriding interest. Over 2 or 3 days mid way through the last campaign AD scored between 400 and 900 bonus points per hour until they were 3,000 ahead (from being last place by 3,000 points). Then there were no bonuses until 48 hours before the end when they got 900 in an hour for a 500 point lead. It won them the campaign.

So when you post that it's all fine and you can't see what people are complaining about and then say you never looked - well... Check up on what you are talking about.

edit: typo

bertenburnyb16_ESO

going for an empty victory again AD, I should be ashamed winning like that
and gg zos, best way of killing pvp, not even recognizing how u screwed up the scoring

AbraXuSeXile

Personally i don't think the AD leaders have the brains or organisation to pull off an elaborate stunt like purpously getting the low pop bonus, nor would they want to.

Everyone should focus there attention no matter what faction you are to Zenimax to make them fix or simply get rid of this system. When you see the population dwindling each day it's sad to see and everyone needs rally together to get this fixed.

There is no need for a 'low pop bonus' on Thornblade, It's pretty much same populations around the clock give or take a raid.