Can we have an European Thornblade (EU) topic?

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Stop slacking!!!

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

DaggerfallTradeMasters wrote: »

PvP is going great hope the low pop bonus won't ruin the scores again...

Which campaign are you on? I want to play there! Thornblade EU sucks for sure. Do you have access to a parallel server somewhere?

Its called "The Magical World of Dragonclaw Masters"

Aldul

This is actually the first time I'm thinking: maybe, free to play, maybe people would benefit? Dunno about server costs and all that. But the game seems to be dying! Nobody REALLY cares about pvp at ZOS? Wait.. is it just Cyroddiil? No. V1-10 Zones are empty pve ghost town zones as well, aren't they? Dunno,,...

Turelus

Aldul wrote: »

This is actually the first time I'm thinking: maybe, free to play, maybe people would benefit? Dunno about server costs and all that. But the game seems to be dying! Nobody REALLY cares about pvp at ZOS? Wait.. is it just Cyroddiil? No. V1-10 Zones are empty pve ghost town zones as well, aren't they? Dunno,,...

Of course VR1-10 zones are empty, there is no beneficial content there.
All the content to be had is Cyrodiil, Craglorn and the Undaunted enclaves.

However yes, it does seem that PVP is the less favourite love child of ZOS, damn you and your good grades PVE, taking our parents love!

Roechacca

Aldul wrote: »

This is actually the first time I'm thinking: maybe, free to play, maybe people would benefit? Dunno about server costs and all that. But the game seems to be dying! Nobody REALLY cares about pvp at ZOS? Wait.. is it just Cyroddiil? No. V1-10 Zones are empty pve ghost town zones as well, aren't they? Dunno,,...

This will just attract even more problems . F2P is never Free . We will be gift shopped to oblivion .

DlSTORTlON

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

DaggerfallTradeMasters wrote: »

PvP is going great hope the low pop bonus won't ruin the scores again...

Which campaign are you on? I want to play there! Thornblade EU sucks for sure. Do you have access to a parallel server somewhere?

Its called "The Magical World of Dragonclaw Masters"

Sounds enchanting. Throw me the server address and I'll check it out ^^

Lettigall

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

There's a Purple alliance, look at the map! Purple alliance= AD + DC!

Looks like you didn't do so well at art, or anything for that matter. Here is a colour wheel. It should help you to work out what colours mix together to make which. Let me know if you need instructions as I know it can be really hard.

Lol! Seems 3 faces didn't indicate to you that it was meant as a joke So specially for you I gonna explain. AD and DC named their alliance Purple to cover it up(still joking).

Everyone who hears Purple alliance automatically will assume that purple= red + blue and it means that EP and DC are allies. No one suspect "purples" to be yellows + blue(aaaand still joking!).

Sorry that you had to search for color wheel picture because you didn't understood that it was joke

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Lettigall wrote: »

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

There's a Purple alliance, look at the map! Purple alliance= AD + DC!

Looks like you didn't do so well at art, or anything for that matter. Here is a colour wheel. It should help you to work out what colours mix together to make which. Let me know if you need instructions as I know it can be really hard.

Lol! Seems 3 faces didn't indicate to you that it was meant as a joke So specially for you I gonna explain. AD and DC named their alliance Purple to cover it up(still joking).

Everyone who hears Purple alliance automatically will assume that purple= red + blue and it means that EP and DC are allies. No one suspect "purples" to be yellows + blue(aaaand still joking!).

Sorry that you had to search for color wheel picture because you didn't understood that it was joke

Dear @Lettigall‌

Please warn us before you joke again.
Thanks,

AD's Thornblade EU

DlSTORTlON

Look at DC go with the morning scrolls caps and able to still hold them >.<

Lettigall wrote: »

Lol! Seems 3 faces didn't indicate to you that it was meant as a joke So specially for you I gonna explain. AD and DC named their alliance Purple to cover it up(still joking).

Everyone who hears Purple alliance automatically will assume that purple= red + blue and it means that EP and DC are allies. No one suspect "purples" to be yellows + blue(aaaand still joking!).

Sorry that you had to search for color wheel picture because you didn't understood that it was joke

Lettigall

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

Look at DC go with the morning scrolls caps and able to still hold them >.<

Lettigall wrote: »

Lol! Seems 3 faces didn't indicate to you that it was meant as a joke So specially for you I gonna explain. AD and DC named their alliance Purple to cover it up(still joking).

Everyone who hears Purple alliance automatically will assume that purple= red + blue and it means that EP and DC are allies. No one suspect "purples" to be yellows + blue(aaaand still joking!).

Sorry that you had to search for color wheel picture because you didn't understood that it was joke

Yeah for yellows "Purple alliance" isn't a joke, fighting this source all of evil is their reason of existence!

Did you know that Purple alliance is part of reptilian plan to take over world? First Tamriel then real world!!! They control already 2 of 3 alliances!!! All argonian players aren't people at all but reptilians!!!

DlSTORTlON

just no

Lettigall

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

just no

themdogesbite

After staying up late during the weekend it seems that AD´s lowpop bonus is more and more justified. I still believe that the ammount of points AD get is to high, but its blatant that we are lower populated during the late night / early mornings.

This campaign isn´t near as interesting as the other ones, i guess lack of interest from EP and AD´s major PvP guilds is getting more and more obvious. DC do seem to care ALOT about the scoring even though several players stated that they wouldn´t play for it this time arround.

DA's nightraids are cute at best, the effort requierd to kill a few players is remarkable

Isbilen

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

After staying up late during the weekend it seems that AD´s lowpop bonus is more and more justified.

This time around you are occasionally outnumbered yes, but last campaign you were barely ever below DC in population, and more often than not a bar higher. That didn't stop the ridiculous low population bonus from applying pretty much every single day of the campaign though.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Isbilen wrote: »

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

After staying up late during the weekend it seems that AD´s lowpop bonus is more and more justified.

This time around you are occasionally outnumbered every day yes, but last campaign you were usually barely ever below DC in population, and more often than not by a bar higher. That didn't stop the ridiculous low population bonus from applying pretty much every single day of the campaign though as it should have.

fixed

AbraXuSeXile

With the lower cap its reallly hard for your claims of being outnumbered being justified. It just proves DC are more organised.

Thudunblundur

So the side that was not really lower population got a lot of big bonuses and the mechanism was working as intended....now that side IS lower population and is NOT getting bonuses...can ZOS confirm again that the mechanism is working as intended?

Or is the explanation that the mechanism was being abused a lot in the last campaign, but less in this one?

Turelus

Thudunblundur wrote: »

So the side that was not really lower population got a lot of big bonuses and the mechanism was working as intended....now that side IS lower population and is NOT getting bonuses...can ZOS confirm again that the mechanism is working as intended?

Or is the explanation that the mechanism was being abused a lot in the last campaign, but less in this one?

Well they have stated it's calculated over several hours.
Basically you're going to have to look at the number of players online throughout the entire day.

I have been tempted to take pictures throughout the entire day to show a day of population, however that's a lot of work for what I fear will be little benefit.

themdogesbite

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

With the lower cap its reallly hard for your claims of being outnumbered being justified. It just proves DC are more organised.

The lower pop-cap have hepled DC alot since more or less every player in the faction is joining up in a zergblob. During normal hours this is not a issue at all and they are usualy a nice 24+ blob of AP. I have to agree though, DC sure is the most organised faction this time arround. lowered interest from EP and AD sure helps with this.

DlSTORTlON

Please read

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

They are awarded from actual quantitative population values (not just low / med / high). Saying you watched the populations closely means nothing. The majority of the nights I saw DC & EP having significantly more players online compared to AD (even though we were all on 'low'). My point is that EP / DC could have ~50 players online and AD only ~10. This is one of the triggers for the low population bonus.

Thanks

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

With the lower cap its reallly hard for your claims of being outnumbered being justified. It just proves DC are more organised.

Please explain how disproportionate populations during unlocked periods are affected by lower caps.

Thudunblundur

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

They are awarded from actual quantitative population values (not just low / med / high). Saying you watched the populations closely means nothing. The majority of the nights I saw DC & EP having significantly more players online compared to AD (even though we were all on 'low'). My point is that EP / DC could have ~50 players online and AD only ~10. This is one of the triggers for the low population bonus.

My impression was that DC were lower population at night as they were during the rest of the day. Certainly felt that way as 8 of us defended an open Gate against twice our numbers and more. Kudos to those brave few who defended it after I'd packed up for the night around 2:30am. Know perfectly well about the need to be a real low number not just the lowest population to get the bonus. Personal impression is a very iffy guide. The reason to look at the bars is to get an idea of who generally is low population that is NOT personal impression. As well as knowing when defence is a necessity and when attack can be reasonably attempted.

Junipus

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

With the lower cap its reallly hard for your claims of being outnumbered being justified. It just proves DC are more organised.

The lower pop-cap have hepled DC alot since more or less every player in the faction is joining up in a zergblob. During normal hours this is not a issue at all and they are usualy a nice 24+ blob of AP. I have to agree though, DC sure is the most organised faction this time arround. lowered interest from EP and AD sure helps with this.

How does lowered interested from the other factions help with DC organisation?

Or do you mean that the organised groups can do more since there's less opposition outside of primetime?

DlSTORTlON

Thudunblundur wrote: »

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

They are awarded from actual quantitative population values (not just low / med / high). Saying you watched the populations closely means nothing. The majority of the nights I saw DC & EP having significantly more players online compared to AD (even though we were all on 'low'). My point is that EP / DC could have ~50 players online and AD only ~10. This is one of the triggers for the low population bonus.

My impression was that DC were lower population at night as they were during the rest of the day. Certainly felt that way as 8 of us defended an open Gate against twice our numbers and more. Kudos to those brave few who defended it after I'd packed up for the night around 2:30am. Know perfectly well about the need to be a real low number not just the lowest population to get the bonus. Personal impression is a very iffy guide. The reason to look at the bars is to get an idea of who generally is low population that is NOT personal impression. As well as knowing when defence is a necessity and when attack can be reasonably attempted.

The point is that looking at the bars is no where near accurate enough for claiming the bonus is unjustified.

I'd personally like to see the actual population #. but that opens a whole can of worms

Lava_Croft

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

The lower pop-cap have hepled DC alot since more or less every player in the faction game is joining up in a zergblob.

Fixed!

DaggerfallTradeMasters

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

Lettigall wrote: »

There's a Purple alliance, look at the map! Purple alliance= AD + DC!

Looks like you didn't do so well at art, or anything for that matter. Here is a colour wheel. It should help you to work out what colours mix together to make which. Let me know if you need instructions as I know it can be really hard.

DaggerfallTradeMasters wrote: »

PvP is going great hope the low pop bonus won't ruin the scores again...

Which campaign are you on? I want to play there! Thornblade EU sucks for sure. Do you have access to a parallel server somewhere?

Haha yeah you are right Thornblade EU sucks many times becauseof lag etc but for DC the score is going good that is what i meant

ensignedb16_ESO

So TB stinks lately. Been playing a bit on Chillrend, my new home campaign. I lol'd

AbraXuSeXile

johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

With the lower cap its reallly hard for your claims of being outnumbered being justified. It just proves DC are more organised.

The lower pop-cap have hepled DC alot since more or less every player in the faction is joining up in a zergblob. During normal hours this is not a issue at all and they are usualy a nice 24+ blob of AP. I have to agree though, DC sure is the most organised faction this time arround. lowered interest from EP and AD sure helps with this.

All factions are guilty of nuttcupping in massive zerg's, The difference between DC and the other factions is half our numbers isnt messing about between alessia and blue road keep.

Plus our raids arnt all at the same spot.

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

Please read

DlSTORTlON wrote: »

They are awarded from actual quantitative population values (not just low / med / high). Saying you watched the populations closely means nothing. The majority of the nights I saw DC & EP having significantly more players online compared to AD (even though we were all on 'low'). My point is that EP / DC could have ~50 players online and AD only ~10. This is one of the triggers for the low population bonus.

Thanks

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

With the lower cap its reallly hard for your claims of being outnumbered being justified. It just proves DC are more organised.

Please explain how disproportionate populations during unlocked periods are affected by lower caps.

All bars are pretty much the same, No matter on the time.

Kromus

Population bars needs to be taken with reserve. Keep in mind that behind those population bars actual difference in numbers can be little less than pop bar itself. Lets guess new cap limit is 100 players per bar. If one side have 30 players and other 90 players difference is huge but both have one bar, and gap normally gets even bigger with more bars included in math. Make a group or two from those 60 extra players and you can paint map pretty much however you want.

Yusuf

Kromus wrote: »

Population bars needs to be taken with reserve. Keep in mind that behind those population bars actual difference in numbers can be little less than pop bar itself. Lets guess new cap limit is 100 players per bar. If one side have 30 players and other 90 players difference is huge but both have one bar, and gap normally gets even bigger with more bars included in math. Make a group or two from those 60 extra players and you can paint map pretty much however you want.

^this

themdogesbite

Thornblade just went full *** today. AoE caps have to go fast.