Character Copy on the PTS

Shadow-Fighter

frank.bindb16_ESO wrote: »

Again the NA Chars prefered

Last time only NA could test. EU not, cause their chars were available during live version on PTS.

This time NA again are the first which can test.

EU is 2nd class players for ZOS

That's true, 'cause almost all developers have their toons their (NA-Servers)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlnx2NQPJmc

Shadow-Fighter

DeathDealer19 wrote: »

i dont understand people wanting the EU copies first. their pop is what 1/4th of ours on the NA side? hell most players in Europe play on the NA server lol

They promised !

Iduyenn

That sucks... Realy guys... Promises...
And the communication was bad again.

You may survive with your B2W and consoles. But you realy should keep it together with what you say, or people start to think, that americans are like this in general...

ZoM_Head

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

During today's PTS maintenance, we copied all characters from the European megaserver to the PTS. Characters were copied today (November 19th.) If you have a character on the EU megaserver, you can now use them on the PTS which is up-to-date with patch 1.5.2.

Please keep in mind this is only a character copy; progression from the PTS will not carry over to the live EU megaserver.

Not a single one of my 7 characters on the EU live server is on the PTS.

Apokh

DeathDealer19 wrote: »

i dont understand people wanting the EU copies first. their pop is what 1/4th of ours on the NA side? hell most players in Europe play on the NA server lol

Source?

Micanet

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll still have maxed-out character templates to use, but the current plan is to start with NA copies then switch to EU.

So when can we expect a switch to the EU ?

Shadow-Fighter

Micanet wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll still have maxed-out character templates to use, but the current plan is to start with NA copies then switch to EU.

So when can we expect a switch to the EU ?

Next week

Enodoc

ZoM_Head wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

During today's PTS maintenance, we copied all characters from the European megaserver to the PTS. Characters were copied today (November 19th.) If you have a character on the EU megaserver, you can now use them on the PTS which is up-to-date with patch 1.5.2.

Please keep in mind this is only a character copy; progression from the PTS will not carry over to the live EU megaserver.

Not a single one of my 7 characters on the EU live server is on the PTS.

You quoted an out-of-date announcement. The most recent one is this one:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just wanted to let you all know that characters from the North American megaserver were copied this morning at 8:00AM EST, and will be available once the PTS maintenance is complete!

Therefore, the current characters available on PTS are the NA ones, not the EU ones.

kenpachi480

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

DeathDealer19 wrote: »

hell most players in Europe play on the NA server lol

^ true <-- European here *Waves* and I love NA!!

runned AA trial yesterday with German guild on PTS. to keep it decent, they did everything opposite of what my NA trial guild does,.

AngryNord

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

Micanet wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We'll still have maxed-out character templates to use, but the current plan is to start with NA copies then switch to EU.

So when can we expect a switch to the EU ?

Next week

They "forgot" their promise again: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1510855/#Comment_1510855
In other Words: Don't expect an EU transfer before 1.6 goes on the live servers.

Garkin

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

frank.bindb16_ESO wrote: »

Again the NA Chars prefered

Last time only NA could test. EU not, cause their chars were available during live version on PTS.

This time NA again are the first which can test.

EU is 2nd class players for ZOS

That's true, 'cause almost all developers have their toons their (NA-Servers)

Yes, I do have character on NA server, but as I usually play on EU server, my NA character is just level 34. How am I supposed to test something with this low level char? All my researches, mounts, pets, ... everything is on EU side.

And if I have characters on both servers, what will I have on PTS?

Enodoc

Garkin wrote: »

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

frank.bindb16_ESO wrote: »

Again the NA Chars prefered

Last time only NA could test. EU not, cause their chars were available during live version on PTS.

This time NA again are the first which can test.

EU is 2nd class players for ZOS

That's true, 'cause almost all developers have their toons their (NA-Servers)

Yes, I do have character on NA server, but as I usually play on EU server, my NA character is just level 34. How am I supposed to test something with this low level char? All my researches, mounts, pets, ... everything is on EU side.

And if I have characters on both servers, what will I have on PTS?

Characters currently available on PTS change depending on what the most recent copy was. Since they most recently copied NA characters, those are the ones available. When they next copy EU characters, the NA characters on PTS will be wiped and the EU ones will be there instead. The details of how this works, and the currently-available character set, can be found at UESP. (Although this does rely on someone updating the info when it changes.)

Shadow-Fighter

kenpachi480 wrote: »

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

DeathDealer19 wrote: »

hell most players in Europe play on the NA server lol

^ true <-- European here *Waves* and I love NA!!

runned AA trial yesterday with German guild on PTS. to keep it decent, they did everything opposite of what my NA trial guild does,.

Thats not what i wrote^^

Shadow-Fighter

I mean not the addon developers such as u ^^

I think ZOS should have Chars on both Servers to test their "real" Chars
Thats, why ZOS preferred NA-Server

"ZOS_KaiSchober wrote: »

Das geschieht sozusagen zu Trainingszwecken, um den Vorgang zu verfeinern.
Wir beginnen mit der NA-Datenbank, weil nahezu alle Enwickler und QA-Leute hier ihre Charaktere dort haben und so die Auswirkungen auf "echte" Chars schnell testen können.

google translate:

This happens so to speak, for training purposes, to refine the process.
We begin with the NA database because almost all developers and QA people here have their characters there and so can test the impact on the "real" Chars quickly.

xMovingTarget

Shadow-Fighter wrote: »

I mean not the addon developers such as u ^^

I think ZOS should have Chars on both Servers to test their "real" Chars
Thats, why ZOS preferred NA-Server

"ZOS_KaiSchober wrote: »

Das geschieht sozusagen zu Trainingszwecken, um den Vorgang zu verfeinern.
Wir beginnen mit der NA-Datenbank, weil nahezu alle Enwickler und QA-Leute hier ihre Charaktere dort haben und so die Auswirkungen auf "echte" Chars schnell testen können.

google translate:

This happens so to speak, for training purposes, to refine the process.
We begin with the NA database because almost all developers and QA people here have their characters there and so can test the impact on the "real" Chars quickly.

I dont understand why they cant find a way to copy both at once. Renaming character by putting a rng number behind it and done. Every other game was able to do that.

Shadow-Fighter

@xMovingTarget‌,
Yes, I even don't understand why

edit:
see Charakterkopien auf dem PTS

Lhorion

Sad that @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ does not answer to the EU-question.

pmn100b16_ESO

WTF...I've just spent all day downloading the pts and I haven't got my characters!

Lhorion

Same problem here.

Sleipnirs

So we spent alot of hours downloading the PTS for nothing? Cause yeah, testing the new patch on a lvl 1 character ... kinda useless to me.

We pay as much as the NA players but we get less ... very nice of you.

Lhorion

You can create a V14 char. But you have to grind the skills.

Enodoc

TBH I think ZOS should just remove the character copies for a while so people stop complaining and just test using the templates. ZOS want the content tested; why is the character which is testing it so important? The templates (usually) have maxed skill lines and enough skill points to make whatever build you want.

Soris

Enodoc wrote: »

The templates (usually) have maxed skill lines and enough skill points to make whatever build you want.

Umm no.

MagnusRex

Enodoc wrote: »

The templates (usually) have maxed skill lines and enough skill points to make whatever build you want.

The skill lines are maxed, but the skills itself are not. youcant test any of the morphs w/o training the skill up all the way. on top of that we only have 3 different sets of gear to use (none of the ones i'd normally use for pvp)

BalerionBlackDread

I haven't read through this whole thread, but I have to ask, why can't EU and NA toons be copied on the PTS at the same time? Is it a server load issue? Performance/lag/fps issue?

Soris

Dueled all night long yesterday with pve gear and level 1 skills. Did I test anything? No. Did I have fun and chat with the NA guys? Yes.

This is all I can do for you ZOS with these template chars as a pvp player.

xherics

I hate lies and the arrogance and ignorance what ZOS is making to EU players.

Do not mention the second HUGE SORC nerf (already the weakest from 1.3-1.5) and making grangmothers PET farm with it...

Islyn

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone! Just letting you know that we did another character copy last Wednesday, December 10th to copy over the latest European megaserver characters. No new patch was implemented.

If you can copy EU characters (and whole accounts actually) to the PTS - why can an NA account not be copied to the EU server?

I asked before about it but I have not received a solid answer.

Markuseb17_ESO15

Enodoc wrote: »

... why is the character which is testing it so important? The templates (usually) have maxed skill lines and enough skill points to make whatever build you want.

And how do you test the conversion of your provisioning inventory and learned and bank or char inentory stored recipes on 8 chars with a template? how do you test the mount conversion of the different horses on your 8 chars with a template? how do you test if you received the correct cp points with a dummy template? please explain.

Enodoc

Markuseb17_ESO15 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

... why is the character which is testing it so important? The templates (usually) have maxed skill lines and enough skill points to make whatever build you want.

And how do you test the conversion of your provisioning inventory and learned and bank or char inentory stored recipes on 8 chars with a template? how do you test the mount conversion of the different horses on your 8 chars with a template? how do you test if you received the correct cp points with a dummy template? please explain.

OK fair, you can't test conversions. But conversions only happen once, and they either work or they don't. My comment was based on testing the systems, not testing the conversions.