Invulnerability exploit.

Redlags

Lionxoft wrote: »

I was accused of using this "exploit" today as a Werewolf (Just a WW for extra ulti)... Not really sure how he came up with that one. He was wondering why his 3k spell did no damage and then once I explained to him what damage shields were and how harness magicka works he then called me a noob. Is it normal to throw around this accusation when your bottom gets a punishment? I'm not even a vampire.

I hopped on here to explain my build while offering some build assistance if he wants it and but he happens to be banned from the forums. Interesting indeed!

LOL, ya, I went afk today when I came back there was a 10 year old four meters in front of my night blade. Obviously he had to know I was there. He had either ran through me or ran right up to me and turned around he was that close. When I came back I proceeded to Ambush, and weave 3 surprise attacks . I did over 3k to him and his health didn't budge. He rooted me and I tried to dodge out +cloak to reset, but he spammed lava whip and talons (obviously) the talons unstealthed me every time and got me. I wouldn't of thought much of it other than hoho lag or something.. And I was on my way. Then he messages me. "You're awful". So I said, F U.... Mr Awesome says " You mad bro". Uh Not really. Hence I knew he was 10. He then went on to say I couldn't kill an AFK player. Im horrible.

I explained to him. Just like in your story he was invul to my damage. Just like you he said. Oh, it was harness plus my shield. Why was this kid messaging me? Apparently to antagonize me which he wasn't. The same bad poor sportsmanship that a cheater would use. Yet, he couldn't comprehend that if he was afk he wouldn't have his shields + harness up. I mean getting onto alt though to shame someone in a fight. I have close to 20 years PvP experience, if he wasn't invul, he prepared whiled I was afk just to do that. Pretty sneaky I laughed. Unlike your story, I didn't accuse the kid of exploiting. I accused of him of not being afk and prep'ed to eat my class and builds main function Surprise crits. He was just to damn stupid to make out the difference and kept explaining harness to me. I had to ignore him.

Columba

Redlags wrote: »

Lionxoft wrote: »

I was accused of using this "exploit" today as a Werewolf (Just a WW for extra ulti)... Not really sure how he came up with that one. He was wondering why his 3k spell did no damage and then once I explained to him what damage shields were and how harness magicka works he then called me a noob. Is it normal to throw around this accusation when your bottom gets a punishment? I'm not even a vampire.

I hopped on here to explain my build while offering some build assistance if he wants it and but he happens to be banned from the forums. Interesting indeed!

LOL, ya, I went afk today when I came back there was a 10 year old four meters in front of my night blade. Obviously he had to know I was there. He had either ran through me or ran right up to me and turned around he was that close. When I came back I proceeded to Ambush, and weave 3 surprise attacks . I did over 3k to him and his health didn't budge. He rooted me and I tried to dodge out +cloak to reset, but he spammed lava whip and talons (obviously) the talons unstealthed me every time and got me. I wouldn't of thought much of it other than hoho lag or something.. And I was on my way. Then he messages me. "You're awful". So I said, F U.... Mr Awesome says " You mad bro". Uh Not really. Hence I knew he was 10. He then went on to say I couldn't kill an AFK player. Im horrible.

I explained to him. Just like in your story he was invul to my damage. Just like you he said. Oh, it was harness plus my shield. Why was this kid messaging me? Apparently to antagonize me which he wasn't. The same bad poor sportsmanship that a cheater would use. Yet, he couldn't comprehend that if he was afk he wouldn't have his shields + harness up. I mean getting onto alt though to shame someone in a fight. I have close to 20 years PvP experience, if he wasn't invul, he prepared whiled I was afk just to do that. Pretty sneaky I laughed. Unlike your story, I didn't accuse the kid of exploiting. I accused of him of not being afk and prep'ed to eat my class and builds main function Surprise crits. He was just to damn stupid to make out the difference and kept explaining harness to me. I had to ignore him.

I think that was lowbei

Asgari

Soooooooo.....


Said cheater who was banned is now back and is doing this again. Zone chat was blowing up with complaints and then i witnessed it first hand. Gotta love ZOS folding and allowing hackers back in the game but if you say something mean in Zone chat you are perma banned and never allowed back.

GG ZOS. GG.

Asgari

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_MattFiror Are you going to allow this to go on for another 3+ months and then ban him again for a short period of time?

Once again he doing it and its non stop complaints in zone chat. just a GM go attack him and its blatantly obvious.

MormondPayne_EP

Nothing ZOS? Really? Not a peep? Hmmmm... I guess it's okay then, is that the message?

SMH

Rook_Master

Players in Zone Chat today were reporting that the exploiter in question was back in the game today. There were also rumors that this player was somehow replicating the glitch he was previously abusing.

The fact that this player is still allowed in the game at all is a travesty. He should be permanently banned from the game. There was very clear evidence of his previous exploiting.

Let's put aside the policy against Naming and Shaming for a second, because we all know who it is, he even came here to troll this thread.

Please just permanently ban this guy and prove to the community that cheating is taken seriously.

Tripwyr

The fact that this player is back in the game is a pathetic indication of ZOS' poor and inconsistent discipline against exploiters and cheaters. It is truly depressing to know that ZOS actively supports this type of conduct on a daily basis.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Look at the 3 skills under your 3 different armour types.

Vizier

Zadian wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

Maybe he had that armor that just says "no".

A lot of players seem to be using armor sets or skills that increase their chance to dodge up to a level where almost every attack gets dodged. Even without blocking. Makes fighting a bit boring and doesn't seem right, but with the completely broken game mechanics nothing that really surprises me.

Ya, but that's not what the OP is talking about. Over the last couple, two to three weeks I've been seeing an increase in these types of encounters. Most of the time people start barking up the Haxor tree it's a bunch of Hoowee. ATM there's enough inexplicable crud going on in PvP that is raising the eyebrows of those that typically don't cry Hax just cuz they died a few times.

Gooey

ZOS has never cared about their PvP playerbase and never will. They are re-admitting plagues into Cyrodiil and doing nothing to fix it. Cheaters don't regret cheating and they don't care about the game they are playing, this is on YOU ZOS for letting this filth into your own game.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO

Gooey wrote: »

ZOS has never cared about their PvP playerbase and never will. They are re-admitting plagues into Cyrodiil and doing nothing to fix it. Cheaters don't regret cheating and they don't care about the game they are playing, this is on YOU ZOS for letting this filth into your own game.

Yeah Zos is acting relly stupid with this name and shame B.S Had some a hole ue a exploit to steal a scroll from arruis keep without sieging the walls, then of course the noobs on E.P were trying to defend him. Lets you know the mentality of some players.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Xsorus

Yea, they're back...800 damage with Flawless Dawnbreaker vs a Vampire...lol

Whats funny is without that little exploit they're both pretty awful

Asgari

Can we get a word from you zos about this? They are both still doing it.

Perichor

Tripwyr wrote: »

The fact that this player is back in the game is a pathetic indication of ZOS' poor and inconsistent discipline against exploiters and cheaters. It is truly depressing to know that ZOS actively supports this type of conduct on a daily basis.

/lol

Alcast

Gooey wrote: »

ZOS has never cared about their PvP playerbase and never will. They are re-admitting plagues into Cyrodiil and doing nothing to fix it. Cheaters don't regret cheating and they don't care about the game they are playing, this is on YOU ZOS for letting this filth into your own game.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

most of the changes of skills happen due to pvp issues. They care a lot, they just dont care if ppl are cheating. Prolly ZOS themselfs OLLOLO

Cody

According to what people have said, a widely known cheater has been allowed back into this game.

I am not one to instantly and blindly listen to and follow rumors; but it would not surprise me if this rumor were true; given ZOS'es record on these things.

ZOS, if this player truly is cheating, and y'all have let him/her back in the game, then y'all are, without a doubt, the worst mods/devs that I have ever seen. All you people ever do is ban people for naming and shaming and tell us to use the utterly ineffective "in game report function" It is pathetic, and I cannot take you people seriously anymore.

y'all delete and close any thread calling people out, and are more eager to enforce the forum rules than police the actual game. If it were up to me I would have you all fired and replaced with a dev team that actually cared about the welfare of the game.


Y'all can close the threads and ignore it all y'all want; but when this game turns into a hackers paradise(COD, for example:() Y'all will regret not dealing with all this cheating, and will notice the consequences when most of this playerbase moves on to a different game.

Cody

And I do not want to hear any nonsense about "super high dodge chance"; flawless dawnbreaker only doing 800 against a vampire is BS(if that is actually happening) that sure as heck shows that something is up.

The_Death_Princess

Hehe like the dood that had just a sliver of health left (had to be 2 or 3 percent) and about 4 of us beating on him for about 30 seconds 2 days after 1.6 patch.

I whole heatedly endorse this PSA because I have pointed out same exploiters/hackers over and over in game help and they exist forever.

Roechacca

I had someone accuse me of exploiting and all I can say is I wouldn't know where to start . I have trouble setting my alarm clock let alone exploiting . Templar can pull off some amazing gtfo last mi ute moves now with abilities in game working as intended . A lot has to do with those Alyiad wells and the drink buffs mixed with blazing shield and ritual ultimate . Seen people explode all around me on my VR14 several times tonight .

Yolokin_Swagonborn

The takeaway point is that this kind of stuff doesn't get fixed unless its very public. Remember the item dupe bug from early launch? That was reported to ZOS while the game was still in beta. They launched anyway and ignored the bug until someone posted a "how to" on youtube.

There are only two ways to make this stop.

1. Someone figure out how to do it and post a how to video on youtube. If its just "clever gameplay" then we can all use it till no one can kill anyone and everyone is an immortal vamp in cyrodiil.
2. Someone figure out how to get ZOS to think you gain extra champion points by using it. Then it will be hotfixed in a matter of hours.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

ZOS_MichaelServotte wrote: »

Hey folks,

Due to the complexity of this situation, we needed a little bit more time than usual to investigate. We wanted to make sure we had a complete understanding of the reported issue, with a good view of what was reported; this helped us better define what is functioning as intended from what needed to be addressed.

Thanks to all the reports, data, explanations, and videos you shared with us in this thread, our team is able to have a complete picture of the situation. While we have seen some situations being a normal combination of abilities (defensive and offensive ones), we also identified some areas where some changes could be applied. We are now in the process of making those changes (which will appear in the patch notes when pushed to live) and getting the changes approved/verified by our QA team, so that we can see when we will be able to push it to the live servers.

Once again, the situation discussed here involves a lot of moving parts and we prefer to move carefully, not wanting to break anything else in the process of addressing game balance. We will keep you updated as those changes are done.

Thank you for your diligent reporting and patience on this matter!

This was posted in september. DIRECT LINK

LOL

Could you give us a little more info please?

This is very vague, and with the track record on fixing things, I don't have a lot of faith that you're going to fix the right thing.

@Domander I find your lack of faith not disturbing.

Fairweather91

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Gooey wrote: »

ZOS has never cared about their PvP playerbase and never will. They are re-admitting plagues into Cyrodiil and doing nothing to fix it. Cheaters don't regret cheating and they don't care about the game they are playing, this is on YOU ZOS for letting this filth into your own game.

Yeah Zos is acting relly stupid with this name and shame B.S Had some a hole ue a exploit to steal a scroll from arruis keep without sieging the walls, then of course the noobs on E.P were trying to defend him. Lets you know the mentality of some players.

[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]

Attorneyatlawl

jircris11 wrote: »

pvp always brings out the exploiters, it is up to the devs to fix it and get rid of the trash.

Did I step onto a Battlefield 4 64-player rush server? There are enough "hackusations" flying around that I thought I had! . If you think you have found an exploit, report it and repro steps to ZOS in detail, then report the player you think is cheating in-game instead of witch-hunting on the forums. The same way you do it in every other MMO since the dawn of Net . Running off here to argue about tangents is completely unconstructive and probably goes into destructive . Yes, there are surely some cheats/exploits in use (most with third-party tools). No, they aren't anywhere near as common as people act, and by and large you lost because you lost or the game had one of its numerous bugs cause a glitch that didn't help you, not because your enemy cheated.

Also, I have seen a handful of certain people complained about in the past for "PVP exploits" that after talking to them and/or hunting them down and observing, were just smart players in ability use (no glitching/etc. whatsoever). Heck, one PVP guy who was a heavy-duty theorycrafter (he's since quit) I knew had CSR's looking at him constantly due to complaints because he was surviving oil as a vampire and therefore MUST HAVE BEEN EXPLOITING with mega-damage cheats (or so the story went)... so forgive me if I take threads like this with more than a grain of salt when things don't sound like they add up and are primarily based on random hearsay.

ZOS_EveP

Several comments have been removed from this thread. As the conversation evolved into a naming and shaming war, we are also going to close the thread. If you wish to report a player for abuse, exploitation, harassment, or other inappropriate behavior, right-click their name in the Chat Box and select the "Report Player" option.