Invulnerability exploit.

atomikrej

This 2% health and getting up maybe a glitch because it has happened to me 2 or 3 times. It normally happens in these zerg fights where I get hit by many spells at the same time. I'm sitting there frantically spamming dragons blood. Normally I'm too slow and just die but you'll get rare case where you stay on the 2% for a few seconds and then the healing will work and you're still alive.

Ezareth

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

Unless the GM who looked at the dude's stuff is a complete *** ***, I'm inclined to believe it is some legit use of game mechanics in an unintended way, which ZOS has no desire to fix. Hopefully, it becomes no bigger than a few bad players being very hard to kill.

A GM never looked at his stuff. Another player reported him and showed him my video and the GM watched the video and said he was "Very skilled" where anyone who knew how to PVP watching this video would think the complete opposite for obvious reasons.

polar wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

polar wrote: »

Add me to the list of folks starting to wear a bit thin on this stuff. I have been noticing practically invulnerable players more and more. This weekend it just kept happening. In one example, there was a sorc that fell off of a keep wall right in front of about 9 of us. Of course, we put all of the DPS we could muster right in to him... nothing. He absorbed it all.. he health went down at first and then just would not budge. He literally walked through our siege line while being attacked (after fighting back for a while) and joined a zerg that was on the other side the hill. We could not get him to zero health.

See posts like this are the problem. This example could easily have been someone casting Hardened Ward, Harness Magicka, and Healing Ward over and over. You make generalities like about all 9 of you unloading but are you sure everyone instantly started DPSing? Did he Bolt Escape (leaves the glowing orb) giving himself temporary immunity to projectiles? You'd be amazed at what people with proper builds and no lag can do.

No, I don't think it is part of the problem sharing an observation. The sorc did not bolt escape and he was fighting back. I don't know if he is exploiting or not (though I do lean toward exploiting) though that degree of survivability is a problem either way you look at it. It makes people cry big cow tears that vamps with a specific armor set can move fast "it makes them OP! unfair advantage! nerf it!" but then we are supposed to accept a player that can absorb several other players laying in to them and they can just walk on by? I know at least four of the others attacking the guy and they hit like trucks. If that was just spamming skills on his part, then there are some seriously broken mechanics in play here....and they are new. Either way it is frustrating and needs a fix.

Just like a DK holding block can absorb a ton of damage before his stamina runs out a Sorc can do the same if he is built for it. The difference is the sorc has to use 3 ability slots and the DK doesn't have to use any or at very least only uses one (defensive stance). While these type of mechanics may need balancing due to them being powerful they are not exploiting or using game mechanics that were never intended.

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO

Baphomet wrote: »

So, we've all seen this frequently in Cyrodiil, I assume - instances where your PC enemies simply don't take any damage even though you put 3000+ dmg into them.

Yesterday I caught someone by surprise and pull off a great opener which was dark flare (642 dmg) + binding javelin (242 dmg) + soul assault (3180 dmg). During this assault, the target did not fight back and was lying on the ground for most of the duration. Problem is that his health bar did not move - at all. And he wasn't healed either.

Subsequently he got up and started fighting back for a good 10-15 seconds until his mates came and ended the fight.

So, it definately was not a case of latency or desynching.

What is this kind of BS that we're seeing ever so often? Is it a phasing issue where you can see your enemy but not damage them, or is it that armor set stacking that more and more people are talking about?

this happened to me, i was immune and i was like.. wtf i just stood their in the middle of a zergball

Braidas

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

Unless the GM who looked at the dude's stuff is a complete *** ***, I'm inclined to believe it is some legit use of game mechanics in an unintended way, which ZOS has no desire to fix. Hopefully, it becomes no bigger than a few bad players being very hard to kill.

A GM never looked at his stuff. Another player reported him and showed him my video and the GM watched the video and said he was "Very skilled" where anyone who knew how to PVP watching this video would think the complete opposite for obvious reasons.

Well in that case, CAN WE GET A GM ON THIS??

Dleatherus

atomikrej wrote: »

This 2% health and getting up maybe a glitch because it has happened to me 2 or 3 times. It normally happens in these zerg fights where I get hit by many spells at the same time. I'm sitting there frantically spamming dragons blood. Normally I'm too slow and just die but you'll get rare case where you stay on the 2% for a few seconds and then the healing will work and you're still alive.

yup - i've occasionally experienced this myself - one time a DC zerg came to the top of an inner keep i was helping defend and all of a sudden i couldn't do anything - couldn't move, couldn't cast, couldn't melee, and it's like they all ran past me and ignored me - keep flipped and finally when my toon 'unlocked' i was still alive up top - though not for long etc

difference is we've run across this particular individual many many times and it's never been inside a keep/with a zerg - it's typically been him solo and 6-8 of us - so the zerg/lag situation wouldn't apply here at all

D.

Ezareth

BTW I should mention I just saw the lowest level of the three exploiting sorcs still playing his account and the exploit still works as of 1.4.

I did however kill him despite him taking ~70% reduced damage.

Aoife32001

While I'm willing to give GMs the benefit of the doubt, the fact that this has been going on so long seems to imply that they don't care if such game-breaking exploits of even "legitimate" game designs are being used (assuming it's not just a straight up hack). That is very disheartening, and will essentially kill AvA in the long run.

I'm not even going to play PvP until (and if) this is addressed... If it isn't by the time I finish the main storyline on my two characters, I'll just un-sub and go back to the better installments of the ES series.

Columba

more blatant cheating again tonight. I guess Zenimax considers this to be skillful. permanently invulnerable is fair and balanced. Not worth paying for anymore.

Xsorus

Yeap...he was on earlier, i got some more video...of me clearly hitting him while he was stunned on the ground for 183 damage crits on venom arrow with no shields up.

3 damage light damage hits from my bow when he got really low.

Was pretty funny, i chased him down, and kept getting him low and he'd teleport away, he eventually tried setting up Oil to draw me in...

Such a bad player.

Dalglish

Starting to see this a lot more frequently on EU now. Blue group in a late night resource defence; few of them who were vamp taking only 20 damage with no shields and in execute. They were NOT in mist form at any stage.

The guys im witnessing arent even doing a great job of it as you can see the Mist form affect on them as they cancel it over and over again throughout the fight.

The plague is spreading!

Ezareth

Yeah I had them both chasing me all over today. I don't even bother fighting that garbage any more. They just soul assault/fragment spam and I just ignore them like the scrubs they are.

Thankfully there isn't an exploit that gives them endless Mana as they can't come close to keeping up with me.

It's still pretty annoying that ZoS allows trash like this to continue, especially considering how many people they are constantly harassing.

Rylana

The most known one hasnt bothered me ever since i schooled it with my templar.

Saw it day before yesterday, it just ran, didnt even engage.

Dont think it likes it too much that I know its weakness O_o.

Artis

We need some raging templars to kill those blinking sorcs. Sorcs absorb a lot of damage, II raging II templars hit 3.7k with one shot with a blazing shield (have a screenshot if someone wants to see my death recap ). Do you thing that would be enough?

Bezilar

Artemis wrote: »

We need some raging templars to kill those blinking sorcs. Sorcs absorb a lot of damage, II raging II templars hit 3.7k with one shot with a blazing shield (have a screenshot if someone wants to see my death recap ). Do you thing that would be enough?

Doubt it

Columba

Artemis wrote: »

We need some raging templars to kill those blinking sorcs. Sorcs absorb a lot of damage, II raging II templars hit 3.7k with one shot with a blazing shield (have a screenshot if someone wants to see my death recap ). Do you thing that would be enough?

Nope. I've seen 20k dumped on one of these hackers and his health didn't budge.

RonnieDoitch

Has the exploit been found out? Curious is all... Maybe a link to a different forum site that people arent as harshly moderated on I could go take a look at ya know.. For science

Ezareth

RonnieDoitch wrote: »

Has the exploit been found out? Curious is all... Maybe a link to a different forum site that people arent as harshly moderated on I could go take a look at ya know.. For science

I know some people that know how to do it. They've passed the information on to the devs and the devs are supposedly aware of the exploit. The fact they weren't able to get it fixed in time for 1.4 is pretty telling.

Bezilar

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

RonnieDoitch wrote: »

I know some people that know how to do it. They've passed the information on to the devs and the devs are supposedly aware of the exploit. The fact they weren't able to get it fixed in time for 1.4 is pretty telling.

Do you now, post vids maybe? Perhaps, just perhaps, you don't know everything about the game? You have all these people crying wolf over a fallacy.

Xsorus

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

RonnieDoitch wrote: »

I know some people that know how to do it. They've passed the information on to the devs and the devs are supposedly aware of the exploit. The fact they weren't able to get it fixed in time for 1.4 is pretty telling.

Do you now, post vids maybe? Perhaps, just perhaps, you don't know everything about the game? You have all these people crying wolf over a fallacy.

lol, you're not able to kill anyone with the exploit right now...I can't imagine how bad you're going to be without it.

Rylana

c.gregoryb14_ESO wrote: »

Oh hi there, why do you run from me? Scared to be blazing sharded?

Ezareth

c.gregoryb14_ESO wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

RonnieDoitch wrote: »

I know some people that know how to do it. They've passed the information on to the devs and the devs are supposedly aware of the exploit. The fact they weren't able to get it fixed in time for 1.4 is pretty telling.

Do you now, post vids maybe? Perhaps, just perhaps, you don't know everything about the game? You have all these people crying wolf over a fallacy.

I never said I knew how, I said I know some people who have told me they know how and based upon conversations with them I believe them, especially since one of them was using the exploit when I called them out on it. Funny thing is he never denied that it was an exploit, in fact that is what he called it as well.

I get tells daily of people reporting you, it is only a matter of time before someone at ZoS gets off their bum and bans you.

Either way until this is fixed, everyone is always going to be wondering if the person they are fighting is using the exploit. When people don't have any confidence in a competitive system being free from exploits and hacks, they typically leave it. We've seen it with so many exploits in the past and I'm sure we'll see it on future exploits.

Columba

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

c.gregoryb14_ESO wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

RonnieDoitch wrote: »

I know some people that know how to do it. They've passed the information on to the devs and the devs are supposedly aware of the exploit. The fact they weren't able to get it fixed in time for 1.4 is pretty telling.

Do you now, post vids maybe? Perhaps, just perhaps, you don't know everything about the game? You have all these people crying wolf over a fallacy.

I never said I knew how, I said I know some people who have told me they know how and based upon conversations with them I believe them, especially since one of them was using the exploit when I called them out on it. Funny thing is he never denied that it was an exploit, in fact that is what he called it as well.

I get tells daily of people reporting you, it is only a matter of time before someone at ZoS gets off their bum and bans you.

Either way until this is fixed, everyone is always going to be wondering if the person they are fighting is using the exploit. When people don't have any confidence in a competitive system being free from exploits and hacks, they typically leave it. We've seen it with so many exploits in the past and I'm sure we'll see it on future exploits.

You are right. Players like this are worthless scrubs.

Xsorus

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

c.gregoryb14_ESO wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

RonnieDoitch wrote: »

I know some people that know how to do it. They've passed the information on to the devs and the devs are supposedly aware of the exploit. The fact they weren't able to get it fixed in time for 1.4 is pretty telling.

Do you now, post vids maybe? Perhaps, just perhaps, you don't know everything about the game? You have all these people crying wolf over a fallacy.

I never said I knew how, I said I know some people who have told me they know how and based upon conversations with them I believe them, especially since one of them was using the exploit when I called them out on it. Funny thing is he never denied that it was an exploit, in fact that is what he called it as well.

I get tells daily of people reporting you, it is only a matter of time before someone at ZoS gets off their bum and bans you.

Either way until this is fixed, everyone is always going to be wondering if the person they are fighting is using the exploit. When people don't have any confidence in a competitive system being free from exploits and hacks, they typically leave it. We've seen it with so many exploits in the past and I'm sure we'll see it on future exploits.

I can safely say other then this guy and his friends...I haven't once considered anyone else in the game as using an exploit.

McDonuts

Glad I only came across this once, and I believe it was accidental on that person. However, I have still unsubbed, as 1.4 eliminated the small amount of faith I had left. Fortunately, my brother and I are enjoying the release of another, truly "play as you want" MMO.

kevlarto_ESO

I have seen this a couple of times, mostly in small gank groups, and I am sure they knew what was happening.

Kypho

McDonuts wrote: »

Glad I only came across this once, and I believe it was accidental on that person. However, I have still unsubbed, as 1.4 eliminated the small amount of faith I had left. Fortunately, my brother and I are enjoying the release of another, truly "play as you want" MMO.

what mmo is that?

Asgari

@ezareth_ESO‌ has videos of this as do I. I have 3 separate recordings on the certain sorc and his friends in question. All of my videos show them not blocking and no shields visible on screen on in the buff bar.

They either take 0 damage to 75 depending on the hit. This damage is what is being reported from various attacks at different times: Crystal frags, Overload, Mages Furry.

I have reported them and requested that @ZOS respond to me and they have not returned any messages in over a week. I did also respond to their usual email you receive after reporting a player.

In my opinion they do not care.

Columba

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

@ezareth_ESO‌ has videos of this as do I. I have 3 separate recordings on the certain sorc and his friends in question. All of my videos show them not blocking and no shields visible on screen on in the buff bar.

They either take 0 damage to 75 depending on the hit. This damage is what is being reported from various attacks at different times: Crystal frags, Overload, Mages Furry.

I have reported them and requested that @ZOS respond to me and they have not returned any messages in over a week. I did also respond to their usual email you receive after reporting a player.

In my opinion they do not care.

This criminal indifference is what's driving many of us to move on to another game. I just don't get the silence.

Tintinabula

maybe their thinking is: "Why worry about a hole in the radiator when the car has no wheels?..Now continue with the paint job please."

Asgari

Tintinabula wrote: »

maybe their thinking is: "Why worry about a hole in the radiator when the car has no wheels?..Now continue with the paint job please."

I give you +10 internet points for that one!