Would you play ESO if it was World PvP orientated

KariTR

I want to say 'Probably' but it isn't an option.

Open world, PvP-only MMOs have held my attention longer than other types of MMOs. I know the OP is hypothetical only anyway, so no harm in daydreaming.

DanteVFenris

Man by the comments you can tell this is people first mmo.

Okay so let me explain to you what other games do. They have a setting where you can turn open world pvp on. Or off. It would be the same.

And next my opinion, the justice system I think is a very unique spin on it and is good enough to satisfy my needs for pvp in tamriel. Really liking this idea

kassandratheclericb14_ESO

No

DanteVFenris wrote: »

Man by the comments you can tell this is people first mmo.

Okay so let me explain to you what other games do. They have a setting where you can turn open world pvp on. Or off. It would be the same.

And next my opinion, the justice system I think is a very unique spin on it and is good enough to satisfy my needs for pvp in tamriel. Really liking this idea

The issue isn't always ME getting killed...its the mass killing of towns by higher level players..then the camping..making it impossible to sell to vendors, get or complete quests...it was awful. So far Zeni seems to be limiting this PVP in the justice system. If they change their minds this would be the deal breaker for me.

moxiesauce

Yes, but only if my gear/pocessions could not be looted on death

I'm down for the justice system, but it just wouldn't make sense to kill players of your same faction. If we could see other faction players outside of cyrodiil that could be ok... but might as well just play wow or it's clones.

all in all justice system will be enough, allows players who don't want to PvP to not PvP as long as they don't break any laws, lol.

radiostar

No

Isn't the Cyrodiil map the biggest one here ingame?

Z planned it well by having both worlds together yet separated, so players can go have pvp at their leisure.

If it's popular enough, I suppose they would open a pvp-only server to satisfy all the players.

Elencha

No

I am curious how this justice system thing will play out. Will it mean that only people who want to PvP can loot containers in towns? Unless they pay the bounty, I guess, which would mean that looting would essentially become a choice between flagging yourself for PvP or buying from an unconventional vendor. Or will only certain containers count as stealing? Autoloot goes bye-bye, then, I guess. Pretty much just speculation, but I'd definitely like to see more information on this..

Exeter411

No

Not interested in PvP. Only reason I subbed was that PvP was confined to one area.

Karnus

Yes, but only if my gear/pocessions could not be looted on death

Yes, I played DAOC and Warhammer Online for years because open world PVP is a lot of fun.

In Warhammer, if you went into a lower tier PVP area that was below your rank you got turned into a chicken and could be easily killed, this made it hard for high level players to gank lowbies.

pinstripesc

I probably wouldn't play an open world PvP game, but I'm excited for the Justice System. I don't really want to have to be looking over my shoulder constantly, especially while trying to get through a quest. But the Justice System offers that option when I want to.

Malpherian

No

Knootewoot wrote: »

They could make a seperate server for it. I would love open world PvP. I know not everyone wants to look over their shoulder when doing quests and I know there will be high level ganking squards keeping areas occupied. But i love that, even if i am not the best in PvP.

indytims_ESO wrote: »

TES games are not PVP games. They added it (Cyrodil) to try to appeal to a group of players, and I get it. But there is no need and really no logical explanation to make ESO a world-PVP game.

Well, they are not multiplayer games either. But they made that to to appeal some group of players (MMO players).

And you speak as a PvE player. For a PvP player there is need for open world. And the logical explanation is.... there arfe 3 factions at war and there should be no reason i couldn't hike all the way from Glenumbra to Morrowind and kill an enemy player.

The problem is not world pvp it'self (This will be introduced with the Justice system so law abiding citizens (Guard Players) can hunt down law breakers (and I would guess DB people can assassinate Law abiding citizens (Guard Players)), It that generally speaking and no offense to you if your not one of them, Many, abuse the system simply to one shot new players. Or specifically Harass people questing by killing them right before they are about to kill a really difficult mob. In VR Areas for example, this would result in again, the areas being empty. As no one would be able to do anything with a Free For All PvP environment.

Nox_Aeterna

No

Elencha wrote: »

ITT? The technical school? I don't know what they have to do with anything, but the fact that someone doesn't enjoy what you enjoy hardly makes them a coward, but of course you know that. Unless, of course, you are just unfamiliar with the definition of cowardice.

Pfff , ofc it does.

Everyone knows that if you dont like to be randomly attacked by people , you are a coward :P.

isengrimb16_ESO

No

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Elencha wrote: »

ITT? The technical school? I don't know what they have to do with anything, but the fact that someone doesn't enjoy what you enjoy hardly makes them a coward, but of course you know that. Unless, of course, you are just unfamiliar with the definition of cowardice.

Pfff , ofc it does.

Everyone knows that if you dont like to be randomly attacked by people , you are a coward :P.

The truly brave venture into Detroit unarmed.

Or the stupid. Whichever.

Anyway, I grew up in Windsor, Ont, and since I'm Canadian, no gun. Used to go to Detroit a lot, though.

Elencha

No

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Elencha wrote: »

ITT? The technical school? I don't know what they have to do with anything, but the fact that someone doesn't enjoy what you enjoy hardly makes them a coward, but of course you know that. Unless, of course, you are just unfamiliar with the definition of cowardice.

Pfff , ofc it does.

Everyone knows that if you dont like to be randomly attacked by people , you are a coward :P.

Duh, of course, I stand corrected...

Phinix1

No

Absolutely NOT. I HATE world PVP and the griefer mentality it spawns. If they MUST do it then make it a separate phase than the rest of the world (the megaserver equivalent of a PVP server) or I would absolutely cancel my sub.

I do not have the patience to deal with the troll mindset that necessarily accompanies world PVP. I have to deal with it enough in the real world.

You can keep the lowbie camping and quest mob killing raids that inevitably ensure whenever this crowd gets bored and goes looking for entertainment at the expense of your own.

I am not paying money to entertain this type of personality.

Elencha

No

^^This. I wish I could hit agree twice. Seriously, I pay for my entertainment, not to entertain a bunch of jerks who specifically want to PvP with people who specifically don't want to PvP. Were this not their desire, they would simply PvP in the PvP area with the people who want to do it with them.

On the other hand, It makes sense to make some iteration of VR Zones PvPable on the grounds that it is illogical to think that every soldier would keep their aggression in neatly separated zones in a war. I can't imagine how that would work though.

Gilvoth

Yes, but only if my gear/pocessions could not be looted on death

Would you play ESO if it was World PvP orientated?

would i play open world pvp?

omg YES! i would LOVE it!

UrQuan

No

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

dharbert wrote: »

skeletorz_ESO wrote: »

dharbert wrote: »

Global PVP = griefers 24/7. It's as simple as that.

There are already players who try to drag mobs onto you in the world and in dungeons. It never works and the mobs never attack me, but it doesn't keep them from trying it over and over again.

Those players aren't trying to drag mobs onto you, they're just fleeing through the dungeon instead of fighting everything. LOL dude, you are not the center of the universe.

But I agree. Griefering would be constant.

I don't consider myself to be "the center of the universe" by any means. There is a certain dungeon that I like to farm, and I guess a couple of others were tying to as well.

They were constantly attacking mobs on the other side of the room and down the hall, dragging them right on top of me, every single time.

Like I said, the mobs never attack me, it will never work, but i guess they thought it would run me off.

They're clearly all out to get you.

I have never intentionally trained anyone and I have pulled mobs to a better area, as well as fled from mobs plenty of times. That's probably what was happening there. Assuming the worst is generally a poor way of looking at things.

I don't know, I've intentionally dragged mobs onto people - but only when those people were obvious bots. Back when there was that instantly and infinitely respawning jute issue, I slaughtered many many bots in Ebonheart by dragging netches onto them. Those poison AOEs were perfect for it. That was highly entertaining.

UrQuan

No

Delith wrote: »

ITT: Cowards. No wonder MMOs can't stay profitable for long.

Translation: these people enjoy different things than me, and that makes me feel threatened, therefore I must insult them!

Go troll somewhere else.

Nazon_Katts

No

No, because ESO wasn't designed with that in mind. I would play a well designed open world ffa full loot and perma death MMO. If there was one. Rust comes close, tho.

The_Sadist

No

I'm all for the justice system to add a layer of depth to the game but I'm against open world PvP. I don't care much for PvP at the best of times and I don't like the notion of dying at any given moment because some guy is bored and I just happen to be walking by.

Brandoid

Yes, but only if my gear/pocessions could not be looted on death

Not surprised at all by now, but very disappointed with results of poll.

RedMiniStapler

Big fat NO

in-game problems : still subbed

no wolfhound : still subbed

enabled world pvp : will cancel sub.

Dagoth_Rac

No

Would people in Cyrodiil who are about to capture a Keep like to be randomly dragged to some instance where they have to fight Gargoyles and Trolls and Storm Atronachs? Of course not! So don't do the inverse to people outside Cyrodiil!

Loco_Mofo

Yes, but only if my gear/pocessions could be looted on death

Brandoid wrote: »

Not surprised at all by now, but very disappointed with results of poll.

The PvPers left months ago. Can you blame them?

JKorr

No

Loco_Mofo wrote: »

Brandoid wrote: »

Not surprised at all by now, but very disappointed with results of poll.

The PvPers left months ago. Can you blame them?

Then who keeps making these polls and threads? Not one of them, even when these forums were on Bethesda's site, ever had the owpvp option win. With or without losing all your gear.

Nox_Aeterna

No

Loco_Mofo wrote: »

Brandoid wrote: »

Not surprised at all by now, but very disappointed with results of poll.

The PvPers left months ago. Can you blame them?

Blame them for what?

If there is one thing this thread proves , is that many are against open PvP , that simple.

To many PvE players , people forcing them into PvP is a hassle , PvE players dont want to deal with that and have no reason to put up with that.

Dayel

No

If I wanted to PvP I would go to a game with totally dedicated PvP servers. I want to enjoy my game without having to worry about being disturbed by other players. Even the dueling option annoys me, as you have to take time to decline which is boring.

Syntse

No

Brandoid wrote: »

Not surprised at all by now, but very disappointed with results of poll.

How are you disappointed? What were your expectations?

I'm also bit interested how it is something that pvp players so much want. Why is Cyrodiil not enough? And no 'because other games had world pvp' is enough of answer. Also to top of that why do you want to also loot the poor player you killed, not like there's some really epic gear in this game to be looted.

Brandoid

Yes, but only if my gear/pocessions could not be looted on death

Syntse wrote: »

Brandoid wrote: »

Not surprised at all by now, but very disappointed with results of poll.

How are you disappointed? What were your expectations?

I'm also bit interested how it is something that pvp players so much want. Why is Cyrodiil not enough? And no 'because other games had world pvp' is enough of answer. Also to top of that why do you want to also loot the poor player you killed, not like there's some really epic gear in this game to be looted.

What I want is for cyrodiil to be a gate way region into other alliance areas where you can invade their lands if you take a main gate. You would be able to go into their regions and capture towns, put forward camps, take/raid the regions main city while fighting the enemy alliance for unique gear(really powerful alliance leaders that drop unique set or something), capture wayshrines, etc..I wanted this to be epic pvp game with no campains just one mega server.

I don't know. I wanted an extreme pvp game with pve for getting stronger in pvp that's all.

Edit: Probably why I haven't gotten through even half of cadwell's silver yet lol.

DaGhostDS

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

They are bringing open world PVP in with the Justice System. I probably won't participate but so long as it doesn't ruin my fun I guess I'll keep playing.

that's opt in. He means world pvp where anyone can kill anyone else at any time.

There is a zone for that.. you know Cyrodill :O