Steam Keys

mutharex

Gotta say one thing, ZoS really should start reshuffling their marketing and PR team because if there is one thing TESO doesn't need is another reason to spew anger and hate on these boards

discosoc

mutharex wrote: »

Gotta say one thing, ZoS really should start reshuffling their marketing and PR team because if there is one thing TESO doesn't need is another reason to spew anger and hate on these boards

For whatever reason, ZOS appears to be designing and marketing their game on whims. I can't wait to hear the ex-ZOS-employee comments that are sure to happen sometime at the end of the year, or next year, after the first dev layoffs take place.

It's like Star Wars: The Old Republic all over again. Maybe the HERO engine is just cursed.

discosoc

Tandor wrote: »

Delith wrote: »

Good luck to you, and I hope you continue to enjoy your game. I wish my personality let me forget this issue and enjoy the game the way yours does.

I don't think it's a case of my personality letting me forget this issue, for me there simply is no issue. ZOS are opening the game up to new customers through Steam, that should bring in additional players which will make grouping easier, refill the empty trading guilds and generally help the game. You have different views on it because you approach it from a different perspective with Steam (which I do use of course, although not socially) and I quite understand that and hope it won't after a period of reflection prevent you continuing to enjoy the game too! Best of luck anyway.

Problem is, that influx of new players will just run into the same issues that the existing and older players ran into. It's a *very* short term strategy, in that you get a box sale and maybe a month or two of subs from each person. But unless the game has fundamentally improved, you won't get much more.

If they go F2P, however, then the strategy makes a lot more sense.

coryevans_3b14_ESO

Delith wrote: »

ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »

We won't be providing Steam keys to current ESO players, as Steam utilizes ESO's launcher and patcher, as well as our billing and account systems. Instead, if you'd like to play via Steam, you can add the existing title to Steam.

To do this, head to "Games" option within Steam and select "Add Non-Steam Game to My Library." Then, select the checkbox next to "The Elder Scrolls Online" and click "Add Selected Programs."

Thanks. Good bye, subscription. Good luck with your game, and I hope you learn how to treat your customers with a bit more respect in the future.

LOL, easy there cool breeze. I really don't think this merits the idea that this is poor customer service by any means. I would rather play it through my steam client as well but I bought the game from ZOS on the website therefore it isn't something steam would see any money from and for ZOS to hand out keys, steam would need a cut.

Do you really think it would be in any companies best interest to do something like that?

coryevans_3b14_ESO

discosoc wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

Gotta say one thing, ZoS really should start reshuffling their marketing and PR team because if there is one thing TESO doesn't need is another reason to spew anger and hate on these boards

For whatever reason, ZOS appears to be designing and marketing their game on whims. I can't wait to hear the ex-ZOS-employee comments that are sure to happen sometime at the end of the year, or next year, after the first dev layoffs take place.

It's like Star Wars: The Old Republic all over again. Maybe the HERO engine is just cursed.

This game does not run on the Hero Engine.

WeerW3ir

o_0 wrote: »

Sorry but Steam is for people who are afraid of computers.

I like the Steam, but this... this is just crazy.

SirNigelThornberry

This is crap. Every game I've bought that's not on steam that goes to steam has given out steam keys to its early supporters. I use the overlay and friends list quite a bit - it's actually really annoying without it bc I have 58 ppl on my steam friends list I generally stay in contact with so alt+tabbing without this is annoying. I saw it on steam and was elated until I read ZOS's response saying they weren't giving us steam keys. They didn't even bother to explain to us why.

Aortick

This thread should get closed at this point.....

Delith

Aortick wrote: »

This thread should get closed at this point.....

Right. What is a better way to deal with angry customers than to silence them on the place designed for them to give you feedback?

Rhoric

This is not feedback. Feedback is constructive. these topics are just rants right now

Delith

There's nothing to construct. All this is now is a sounding board so ZOS can see how many people they pissed off.

Buckle up. It's not gonna stop.

Rhoric

then buckle up to have topics locked for being rants and nonconstructive.

Delith

Yeah, because that's happened so far. Pretty sure they know the second they start silencing threads is the second this goes from being a temporary PR frustration, to viral, and pissing people off who don't even care about the game to begin with.

Watch.

You don't care, so you think others don't. They do.

Rhoric

If the topics violate CoC then they will so get locked and there are still several pending as they have been reported.

GFBStarWars

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

I don't personally know of a single game that gives you a Steam key when you bought it elsewhere, even if it was before it was released on Steam.

So I doubt they will be doing this. When a game is on Steam they get a cut of the proceeds. It would not be in their best interest or in any agreement they made to do this.

planetary annihilation did and its an indie game, a real good one though

Amsel_McKay

I will pay $20 to convert my account to a steam account... and I dont want the dog..

Csub

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

I will pay $20 to convert my account to a steam account... and I dont want the dog..

Except you cannot do that unfortunately.

Amsel_McKay

Csub wrote: »

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

I will pay $20 to convert my account to a steam account... and I dont want the dog..

Except you cannot do that unfortunately.

I know that is why I am mad.... I could care less about the pets, if I knew is was going to steam and I could not convert my account I would have waited until it came out on steam...

Right now I'm thinking of stopping my subscription and just wait for the XB1 version, and get a PC version on steam (will be like $4.99 by then)

Arsenic_Touch

The two reviews on it for steam are extremely hilarious. "flappy birds is better" but if you check his profile he's still playing the game. While the other one saying it was a waste was also in game for an hour after he posted it. Paid 30 bucks just to whine about the game and continue playing it, that's just hilarious.

Woolenthreads

Why not be upset that unlike most (if not all other) subscription MMO's you paid up to a hundred quid over the subscription instead? If you want to have a reason for getting a Steam Key, use that. Could it be that the people complaining about beta/"Early Access" were right and we've been paying to Beta Test the game, as per the current trend in game development?

I actually prefer that it not be on Steam since that's where all my "permanent license" titles are and this is a subscription MMO. That being said I know that EVE moved onto Steam a while ago, I don't know whether they handed out keys as I'd quit before that.

# Edit: At any rate if you linked the game permanently to Steam you'd also be making yourself vulnerable to Steam Updates in addition to ESO updates. Imagine you log on to Steam which spends an hour updating only to have ESO then updating immediately after.... what fun.

Delith

Woolenthreads wrote: »

Why not be upset that unlike most (if not all other) subscription MMO's you paid up to a hundred quid over the subscription instead? If you want to have a reason for getting a Steam Key, use that. Could it be that the people complaining about beta/"Early Access" were right and we've been paying to Beta Test the game, as per the current trend in game development?

I actually prefer that it not be on Steam since that's where all my "permanent license" titles are and this is a subscription MMO. That being said I know that EVE moved onto Steam a while ago, I don't know whether they handed out keys as I'd quit before that.

# Edit: At any rate if you linked the game permanently to Steam you'd also be making yourself vulnerable to Steam Updates in addition to ESO updates. Imagine you log on to Steam which spends an hour updating only to have ESO then updating immediately after.... what fun.

Steam has never, ever taken an hour to update on my computer.

enem

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

...But I don't understand why people want have their cpu usage increased by having to run steam in the background while playing ESO. Steam does use memory that could be going to ESO.

haha..

steam is not using any more memory that ESO could be using (especially since eso is a 32 bit executable), nor does it use any great amount of processing power. If you're in that particular boat then my advice would be it's about time you bought a modern computer.

GreySix

Natjur wrote: »

I am one of those insane people who re-brought a lot of the older games I had when they came out of Steam so I could dump the disks.

Yep, still have the FF7 disks that came out in '96, which I used for my awesome Pentium rig with Voodoo 3 chipset.

No longer need them with Steam.

Cyrcle

Why not just allow all boxed/digital regular and imperial edition codes to work with Steam?

Steam > Games > Activate a Product on Steam > Input code that came with your ESO version

Viola, ESO activated on your Steam account. Makes everyone happy.

Natjur

Cyrcle wrote: »

Why not just allow all boxed/digital regular and imperial edition codes to work with Steam?

Steam > Games > Activate a Product on Steam > Input code that came with your ESO version

Viola, ESO activated on your Steam account. Makes everyone happy.

Cause steam takes 30% of the sale. That would cost ESO millions, every key they have already sold, that steam 'allowed' to be activated, ESO would have to pay 30% of the box sale price to steam.

LtCrunch

ZOS_AmeliaR wrote: »

We won't be providing Steam keys to current ESO players, as Steam utilizes ESO's launcher and patcher, as well as our billing and account systems. Instead, if you'd like to play via Steam, you can add the existing title to Steam.

To do this, head to "Games" option within Steam and select "Add Non-Steam Game to My Library." Then, select the checkbox next to "The Elder Scrolls Online" and click "Add Selected Programs."

This doesn't allow me to earn trading cards for Steam, it's not a big deal but it's a courtesy to early adopters and avid supporters that would have been appreciated and it's disappointing.

Cyrcle

Natjur wrote: »

Cyrcle wrote: »

Why not just allow all boxed/digital regular and imperial edition codes to work with Steam?

Steam > Games > Activate a Product on Steam > Input code that came with your ESO version

Viola, ESO activated on your Steam account. Makes everyone happy.

Cause steam takes 30% of the sale. That would cost ESO millions, every key they have already sold, that steam 'allowed' to be activated, ESO would have to pay 30% of the box sale price to steam.

How can Valve (Steam) take 30% for a sale already made? I've purchased tons of steam activated games elsewhere (Amazon, Humble Bundle, etc) and have NEVER once heard of this.

Here is an article to support that: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/02/steam-and-gog-take-30-revenue-cut-suggests-fez-creator-phil-fish/

"the humble store is the best way to support us! we get 95% of revenues as opposed to steam/gog's 70%" - Phil Fish, Fez creator

Natjur

Cyrcle wrote: »

How can Valve (Steam) take 30% for a sale already made? I've purchased tons of steam activated games elsewhere (Amazon, Humble Bundle, etc) and have NEVER once heard of this.

The few games (ones that were not Steam Play from the start) when they switch and allow their codes to be triggered on steam, steam then BILLS the company for 30%

So Steam will credit ESO for 70% of any new sales, and charges them 30% for any OLD accounts, if they allows the old codes to work. Do you think ESO would make any money if they allows the old codes to work?

Amazon games are steam play already
Humble Bundle get a nice deal

Au1st3in

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Cyrcle

Natjur wrote: »

Cyrcle wrote: »

How can Valve (Steam) take 30% for a sale already made? I've purchased tons of steam activated games elsewhere (Amazon, Humble Bundle, etc) and have NEVER once heard of this.

The few games (ones that were not Steam Play from the start) when they switch and allow their codes to be triggered on steam, steam then BILLS the company for 30%

So Steam will credit ESO for 70% of any new sales, and charges them 30% for any OLD accounts, if they allows the old codes to work. Do you think ESO would make any money if they allows the old codes to work?

Amazon games are steam play already
Humble Bundle get a nice deal

You cannot prove what the game originally sold for when adding a boxed/digital copy from another retailer to Steam so there can be no "30%". I understand they take 30% for any sale made on Steam, but games purchased elsewhere? Highly unlikely.