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ishilb14_ESO

TRIP233 wrote: »

sonofzeus wrote: »

Amesiel wrote: »

I don't see a fix for bolt escape.

Ummm Probably cause it aint broken !!!!

It is broken, Mist Form is supposed to be as fast as Bolt Escape, It isn't. Therefor, Bolt Escape needs a nerf or Mist Form needs a fix. The devs will chose Bolt Escape before they focus on Mist Form again.

This is not a Bolt Escape thread, but if it was, then on that note, make the sorc self heal not require a stand still cast and then nerf Bolt Escape all you want, we won't mind

Zaxq

AngryNord wrote: »

Here is what it says in the _first paragraph_ of the _first post_: We’re still working on finalizing the complete patch notes, but we wanted to share some of the highlights with you now
Highlights - in other words - there WILL be more stuff in the patch.
Geeez, can NOBODY read anymore???

Highlight:-

Noun.

1.
an outstanding part of an event or period of time.
"he views that season as the highlight of his career"
synonyms: high point, high spot, best part, climax, culmination, peak, pinnacle, height, top, acme, zenith, apex, summit, apogee, apotheosis, crowning moment, high water mark, most memorable part, most outstanding feature

If those patch notes are the "highlights" then people are right to be worried. I think you need to work on reading comprehension as you clearly don't understand what a highlight is.

There will be more stuff, but it will likely be less useful fixes.

Carry on being a smarmy smartarse though.

TRIP233

NordJitsu wrote: »

Amesiel wrote: »

I don't see a fix for bolt escape.

@Amesiel‌

Were you expecting them to increase the damage?

Hopefully next patch.

You're right that its probably under performing.

No, he is hopping for a nerf. The move is supposed to be equal in distance/speed with Mist Form. (As noted by the patch note that addressed the Mist Form nerf). Bolt Escape is still faster. Therefor it needs a nerf or Mist Form needs to be resorted. Since Zenmax nerffed Mist Form for a reason they will have to nerf Bolt Escape for the same reason: It's too fast.

TRIP233

someuser wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Templar

• Puncturing Strikes: Reduced the global cooldown triggered after this ability is used, and slightly increased the ability resource cost. This change impacts Puncturing Strikes and all its morphs.

REALLY REALLY think there should only be a CD on the move, not a GCD. But I'll cross my fingers and hope that the "adjustments" improve things

In patch 1.1.2 they added a GCD after using the jabs. That is why Templar Tanks where unusable/useless. In this patch, they are reducing the GCD back to before patch 1.1.2.

Jessica would have called it an "ICD" if zenmax developers didn't accidentally make it a GCD.

TRIP233

fambaab16_ESO wrote: »

Amesiel wrote: »

I don't see a fix for bolt escape.

Your concern is misplaced, Bolt Escape is not buggy. But many other things are.
Let them fix the bugs, and see what happens with balance afterwards.

Mist Form is supposed to be Equal in speed/distance to Bolt Escape, it's not. Bolt Escape needs a nerf for the same reason Mist Form got a nerf: It's too fast.

Axewaffle

Zaxq wrote: »

Axewaffle wrote: »

McDoogs wrote: »

Cool until you find out veil of blades scales off of spell crit lol

Which is a good thing, since all viable dps builds for nighblades use spell crit anyway.. This patch is frigging massive for nightblade dps, Im predicting 20% dps increases or more coupled with the boost we get to spellcrit/power potions!

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Except I'm not, if you can do viable dps as a stam nb you aren't playing the same game as everyone else.

TRIP233

NerfEverything wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Templar

• Puncturing Strikes: Reduced the global cooldown triggered after this ability is used, and slightly increased the ability resource cost. This change impacts Puncturing Strikes and all its morphs.

What is this garbage? A global cooldown AND increased resource cost? This is NOT what we were promised.

Time to say goodbye to the rest of your Templar subs.

Glad NBs got some love though.

In patch 1.1.2 Templar's got a GCD instead of a ICD after using jabs. This new update that is coming out is fixing Templar's back to before patch 1.1.2, and they are getting a BS resource cost, that isn't necessary.

grizzbi

disappointing.
So many things out of the radar.
No on-going balancing to the classes, skills, attributes and many other game mechanics.
Only tiny fixes.

I'm sure that you're all talented people devoted to the game success. But you probably encounter major problems that you can't share with us...

Phantorang

Why no word on boosting Templar and NB to ALSO be able to solo Craglorn 12 man dungeon??

Is this supposed to be an exclusive feature for the DK and Sorc? While NB and Templar are shafted??

Else you need to hit Sorc and DK so hard with the NERF bat, they will no longer be able to do anything without NB and Templar ever again.


But hey, lets nerf the Templar instead, increase the magicka cost of Biting Jabs...

Drakoleon

"Patches" are always welcome...but the patient needs surgery

With so many problems in gameplay so many bugs, lags, spikes, freezes, wrong nerfs or buffs etc...... why dont you pull back the game in BETA stage again and "refund" us later with the a fixed release?
Dont get me wrong...for me the is best MMO ever played and i loved it... but far too many issues
Yes its a huge game and we expected bugs but together with so many other serious problems? You shouldnt even release in the first place and especially for EU
Almost all my team mates already quit ...the rest will when the (pre)payed time is due...And craglorn wasnt or isnt their main concern....they didnt even get there....

Zaxq

Phantorang wrote: »

Why no word on boosting Templar and NB to ALSO be able to solo Craglorn 12 man dungeon??

Is this supposed to be an exclusive feature for the DK and Sorc? While NB and Templar are shafted??

Else you need to hit Sorc and DK so hard with the NERF bat, they will no longer be able to do anything without NB and Templar ever again.


But hey, lets nerf the Templar instead, increase the magicka cost of Biting Jabs...

Cant nerf Sorcs and DKs anymore. 75% of the playerbase are either playing them or re-rolling to them.

The remaining 25% are happy soloing stuff casually or havent gotten around to thinking of a DK alt name.

ishilb14_ESO

TRIP233 wrote: »

NordJitsu wrote: »

Amesiel wrote: »

I don't see a fix for bolt escape.

@Amesiel‌

Were you expecting them to increase the damage?

Hopefully next patch.

You're right that its probably under performing.

No, he is hopping for a nerf. The move is supposed to be equal in distance/speed with Mist Form. (As noted by the patch note that addressed the Mist Form nerf). Bolt Escape is still faster. Therefor it needs a nerf or Mist Form needs to be resorted. Since Zenmax nerffed Mist Form for a reason they will have to nerf Bolt Escape for the same reason: It's too fast.

No, mist form was nerfed because it gave everyone the ability to escape combat, so classes like DKs and Templars that had easy self heals and NB with their in-combat stealth which usually didn't need to escape combat, could very easily do so. Like I said, try playing with full light armor and a heal that requires you to stand still for 4 seconds, then talk.

TheBull

gonna be so made if they buffed path of darkness by like 5dps. The thing needs to be doubled at minimum.

SootyTX

ESO Players - "Communicate with us more! We just want to know what's going on!"...."Don't wait to make all the fixes at once, roll out what you can as soon as its ready!"....."Why do devs always overdo changes and swing from one extreme to another! Make small changes!"

Devs - "Here's an early look at some of the changes and fixes we've got coming up next week!"

ESO Players - "Waaaahhhhhh, why isn't <my personal issue> being fixed naoh!!!!"....."You guys suck, these changes are no where near enough!!"......"My entire character is totally unplayable because you changed one skill and I cannot even kill a single wolf 5 level below me now!!" (templers, looking at you here)...."OMG, is this all!! Its been like 3 months since 1.1.2 came out, what are you guys doing!!!!"

Sorry @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ some of us really do appreciate the hard work you are all doing there

Axewaffle

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

TRIP233 wrote: »

NordJitsu wrote: »

Amesiel wrote: »

I don't see a fix for bolt escape.

@Amesiel‌

Were you expecting them to increase the damage?

Hopefully next patch.

You're right that its probably under performing.

No, he is hopping for a nerf. The move is supposed to be equal in distance/speed with Mist Form. (As noted by the patch note that addressed the Mist Form nerf). Bolt Escape is still faster. Therefor it needs a nerf or Mist Form needs to be resorted. Since Zenmax nerffed Mist Form for a reason they will have to nerf Bolt Escape for the same reason: It's too fast.

No, mist form was nerfed because it gave everyone the ability to escape combat, so classes like DKs and Templars that had easy self heals and NB with their in-combat stealth which usually didn't need to escape combat, could very easily do so. Like I said, try playing with full light armor and a heal that requires you to stand still for 4 seconds, then talk.

They nerfed mist form because only sorcs should have the ability to escape any situation no matter what.

Phantorang

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

TRIP233 wrote: »

NordJitsu wrote: »

Amesiel wrote: »

I don't see a fix for bolt escape.

@Amesiel‌

Were you expecting them to increase the damage?

Hopefully next patch.

You're right that its probably under performing.

No, he is hopping for a nerf. The move is supposed to be equal in distance/speed with Mist Form. (As noted by the patch note that addressed the Mist Form nerf). Bolt Escape is still faster. Therefor it needs a nerf or Mist Form needs to be resorted. Since Zenmax nerffed Mist Form for a reason they will have to nerf Bolt Escape for the same reason: It's too fast.

No, mist form was nerfed because it gave everyone the ability to escape combat, so classes like DKs and Templars that had easy self heals and NB with their in-combat stealth which usually didn't need to escape combat, could very easily do so. Like I said, try playing with full light armor and a heal that requires you to stand still for 4 seconds, then talk.

Why dont you, with your 50% crit chance use Critical Surge, and get 50% of all the Crit damage you do back in Healing? Whats stopping you, really? Its the best, fastest and most effective healing in the game,AND do ALOT of damage while you heal up?

Should be nerfed to 5%, and Bolt Escape should be usable once a minute or something, its bad that one class has a 100% escape, give it to everyone via Mage Guild.

Mortosk

NerfEverything wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Templar

• Puncturing Strikes: Reduced the global cooldown triggered after this ability is used, and slightly increased the ability resource cost. This change impacts Puncturing Strikes and all its morphs.

What is this garbage? A global cooldown AND increased resource cost? This is NOT what we were promised.

Time to say goodbye to the rest of your Templar subs.

Glad NBs got some love though.

This is what happens when You don't clarify your mistakes in the patch notes.

Now I'm starting to think it wasn't a mistake, and just an omission.

I'm about fed up with this game. I'm thinking about switching to Wild Star, but I'll wait till Monday to confirm my fears about Biting Jabs.

Jessica said in the 1.1.2 patch notes: We increased the INTERNAL cooldown to 1.2 seconds. She did not mention they also increased the GLOBAL cooldown. That was completely omitted. Now they are saying they are going to just reduce the GLOBAL cooldown, that they never even acknowledged they added. Therefore, we can only assume they are leaving the INTERNAL one at 1.2 seconds if we take what Jessica reported literally, and taking things literally in patch notes is usually the best policy from my experience.

Basically we will not be able to spam the ability like before AND in addition it will cost more Magicka. Not exactly reverted as promised.

I think it's very discouraging and dishonest when Developers pull these kinds of word games off in the patch notes, I've seen it in other MMO's and that never ended well.

If I'm right and this is actually what is going to happen on Monday. Guess we won't know until then.

DeadByNow

Mortosk wrote: »

Does anyone recall Puncturing strikes having a "GLOBAL" cooldown before? If it did, it must have been pretty minute, because I never got locked out of all my other skills when using it prior to this latest patch.

No it didnt.

Mortosk

InstantDnB wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Puncturing Strikes: Reduced the global cooldown triggered after this ability is used, and slightly increased the ability resource cost. This change impacts Puncturing Strikes and all its morphs.

Thank you

My advice - Always wait until you see what they've actually done to thank them from now on. I've lost trust after this, and I'm tired of the word games. This whole situation was handled very poorly.

Mortosk

zgrssd wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Templar

• Puncturing Strikes: Reduced the global cooldown triggered after this ability is used, and slightly increased the ability resource cost. This change impacts Puncturing Strikes and all its morphs.

This seems to be already fixed on the EU server (stealth fix during Friday Downtime). Chances are they are fixing it during Saturday downtime on NA server right now.

All I can say is: Right now, there is no delay between consecutive uses of Puncturing Strike or any of it's morphs on the EU megaserver. It still has a rather long animation/channeleing time, but follow up abilities fire normally from there.

I'm guessing it's a lot longer than 1.1 seconds.

Zhoyzu

werewolf still beyond broken

rickkoning26

Please make the bashing speed and damage as it was in the begining I keep dying all the time..

Rick,

Ashtaris

That's it? Let's just say I'm underwhelmed. I was so hoping for a fix for "The Endless War" quest so I can collect those stupid seeds and finally move on to defeating Molag Bal. I really feel like I'm stuck in Oblivion.

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

someuser wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Templar

• Puncturing Strikes: Reduced the global cooldown triggered after this ability is used, and slightly increased the ability resource cost. This change impacts Puncturing Strikes and all its morphs.

REALLY REALLY think there should only be a CD on the move, not a GCD. But I'll cross my fingers and hope that the "adjustments" improve things

Why ?

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

ishilpatelb14_ESO wrote: »

twistedmonk wrote: »

that's cool...you'll be patching the game while I'm playing Wildstar

If they don't get off their asses within the next month, I'm gonna unsub and go to Wildstar or back to GW2, at least those games have devs and customer support teams that pay attention to their player base

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA, i played GW2 on launch, and it was the same as this... And believe me, Wildstar will have also problems

Beretic

Am I the only Nightblade who thinks the potion effectivness skill from the siphoning skill tree is utterly useless? 30% max is quite bs. 1st point should be 25% Second should be 50%. Only then would it make that 2 point sinkhole worth investing in.

Even then, Whats the point when other class passives are way better than NB. Not much thought into this redheaded stepchild of a class.

Gravord

Any plan to rollback NPC guards in Cyrodiil or they remain hardest enemy in what suppose to be player vs player area?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/103382/npc-guards-after-patch-need-rollback?new=1

Utildai

It's funny to see how everyone expects them to fix everything in one patch....

patrykplawskib16_ESO

Relyk04 wrote: »

Has there been a fix for cancelling the bow draw? Admittedly, I've eagerly drawn my bow at a mob and realized I'm not prepared to fight them. At it stands, I can only get out of range before releasing my arrow to avoid the conflict.

What i do if that happens to me is double tap to roll and you will get out of it or wait for it to cancel out.

pecheckler

Where are the balance changes that make templars and nightblades desired classes? I'm sick of see "LFM Sorc and DK only"