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Re: Sorc pet hate has to stop
I get that people feel that there's excessive hate for Pet Sorcs but if we set feelings aside for a moment and look at what the real complaints are with Sorc pets it's not the lore or identity aspect it's the fundamental mechanics.
So much has changed since ESO launched. Much has changed behind the nature of combat and how effective combat carries out in game. Whether any of us like that or not that's a real truth. That said, any and every class skill sets should seek to perform within the context for the current combat environment.
I agree that having to double slot pets is unfair, I also beleive that having to multi-cast Prey to redirect and control Sorc pets amounts to a "double tax" on Sorcs that isn't really fair given how little damage those pets do.
The reason players hate on pets is because they severely under-perform in the context of what most all other skills in the game deliver. I get people like playing pets but it's pretty factually demonstrated that Sorc pets have a low slot rate. They don't consistently top Logs and they're not a mainstay in PvP, and it's no wonder why.
When Sorcs as a class are notoriously short on raw burst damage, having to carry around a skill line that features skills and passives dedicated toward underperforming pets causes pain points.
If one is going to ask to keep pets or see pets get more love from players then they need to admit that pets are lacking and advocate for the actual full rebuild that they need. Not just bumping up values, not just enabling a one slot summon, but an actual rebuild of the mechanics that sees them delivering on power output or major buff potential that skills in other classes bring.
As it stands now they're little more than body blocks that deal pin prick damage and are incredibly easily mitigated.
It's hard to make a case for Sorc pet lore when Sorcs are more often having to rely on World & Weapon skill lines to fill a build out rather than being able to truly rely on their own Class, or being confined to a primarily HA playstyle .. There's very little build variety in either of those whereas other Classes can go ham build crafting.
So much has changed since ESO launched. Much has changed behind the nature of combat and how effective combat carries out in game. Whether any of us like that or not that's a real truth. That said, any and every class skill sets should seek to perform within the context for the current combat environment.
I agree that having to double slot pets is unfair, I also beleive that having to multi-cast Prey to redirect and control Sorc pets amounts to a "double tax" on Sorcs that isn't really fair given how little damage those pets do.
The reason players hate on pets is because they severely under-perform in the context of what most all other skills in the game deliver. I get people like playing pets but it's pretty factually demonstrated that Sorc pets have a low slot rate. They don't consistently top Logs and they're not a mainstay in PvP, and it's no wonder why.
When Sorcs as a class are notoriously short on raw burst damage, having to carry around a skill line that features skills and passives dedicated toward underperforming pets causes pain points.
If one is going to ask to keep pets or see pets get more love from players then they need to admit that pets are lacking and advocate for the actual full rebuild that they need. Not just bumping up values, not just enabling a one slot summon, but an actual rebuild of the mechanics that sees them delivering on power output or major buff potential that skills in other classes bring.
As it stands now they're little more than body blocks that deal pin prick damage and are incredibly easily mitigated.
It's hard to make a case for Sorc pet lore when Sorcs are more often having to rely on World & Weapon skill lines to fill a build out rather than being able to truly rely on their own Class, or being confined to a primarily HA playstyle .. There's very little build variety in either of those whereas other Classes can go ham build crafting.
NxJoeyD
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Re: Werewolves should exceed Movement Speed Cap
Gonna disagree with you, big dawg.
Last I checked, WWs have a super inexpensive gap-closer that you should probably use.
Maybe when out of combat such a thing is more reasonable.
Last I checked, WWs have a super inexpensive gap-closer that you should probably use.
Maybe when out of combat such a thing is more reasonable.
Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Golden Pursuits—Prepare for the Night Market"
The timing/difficulty kinda stinks.
You've got new content on the PTS to test, 3 Team Battlegrounds Week, and a Vengeance Campaign at the same time.
Plus, next week you have the Night Market starting which will likely be far easier to grind at the start when more people are present so it isn't like it is a time where you might grind a bunch this week and take off next week.
This will be the first pursuit I'll be failing to complete because it is too time consuming while also competing with other content that I would rather be doing.
You've got new content on the PTS to test, 3 Team Battlegrounds Week, and a Vengeance Campaign at the same time.
Plus, next week you have the Night Market starting which will likely be far easier to grind at the start when more people are present so it isn't like it is a time where you might grind a bunch this week and take off next week.
This will be the first pursuit I'll be failing to complete because it is too time consuming while also competing with other content that I would rather be doing.
Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Golden Pursuits—Prepare for the Night Market"
Even for people for which this sort of pursuit is ostensibly targeted at, it feels like it's asking for a lot in a short period of time. Esp. since a lot of us are still recovering from the Jubilee.
I'm surprised, frankly.
I'm surprised, frankly.
code65536
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Re: Sorc pet hate has to stop
There is nothing oppressive about fighting a pet build. Tab target your opponent, or kill their twilight and they fall over without the heal.
I also want to note, that this is highly ironic… in another thread you’re pushing for Werewolf not to be nerfed, but it’s okay to come after something performing much less effective.
If anything, they need a buff.
Remove the two-bar limitation, it’s 2026.
Re: Why Soloed Dungeons are forbidden in the new Golden Pursuit??
AvalonRanger wrote: »Why Soloed Dungeons are forbidden in the new Golden Pursuit?? Bookmark
Seriously? Because it's a MMO.
MMO does NOT mean grouping. It ONLY means there are multiple players in the game world at the same time.
Re: Why Soloed Dungeons are forbidden in the new Golden Pursuit??
It's post like these that remind me that the plot is lost on a lot of people. The golden pursuit is to prepare players for the Night Market, meaning this pursuit is about team work since progress in the Night Market requires and incentives playing in a group.
That said, to encourage people to play in a group, they made challenges that require you to... (You probably want to sit down for this) Play in a group.
Unfortunately the plot isn't lost on me. All I can think of is when Craglorn was introduced and how it was encouraging grouping and teamwork. But it went beyond encouraging and was completely mandatory because the difficulty was so high that no one could even quest without a full group. The Night Market sounds just like a clone of this.
I really don't understand why some consider grouping the ultimate goal and why it's being pushed on everyone. Those that enjoy grouping can group. But in a game that admittedly has a large solo player base, forcing grouping is only going to drive players out.
Re: Why Soloed Dungeons are forbidden in the new Golden Pursuit??
Hapexamendios wrote: »Forced grouping for activities such as this, optional or otherwise, isn't player friendly when the vast majority of the game is catered to a single player experience.
I think I'd disagree on this. The only parts of the game which absolutely cater to single-player are the Main Quest, the two guild stories, and solo arenas. There might be a quest or two in there somewhere among the ~2500 in the game which go to solo instances at some point, but the rest of the game supports either approach.
"supports either approach" being the key here. The trend seems just task-like group content for busy work as of late. Hoping that isn't the direction.
Re: Why Soloed Dungeons are forbidden in the new Golden Pursuit??
Afaik this is the first Golden Pursuit that you can't finish completely without forced grouping. I get that ZOS wants to promote grouping with other players, it is an MMORPG after all, but personally these ''tasks'' don't really have that effect on me.
It ends up being just an additional step for completing something that was already a chore to begin with, the only difference now being additional bars in my UI and a ''Hi'', and ''thanks for group'' in the chat when entering/leaving a group. You could even argue that it promotes unhealthy behavior since I actually queued as a ''fake healer''(basically DPS and 2 Hots) because DPS one was taking too long.
It ends up being just an additional step for completing something that was already a chore to begin with, the only difference now being additional bars in my UI and a ''Hi'', and ''thanks for group'' in the chat when entering/leaving a group. You could even argue that it promotes unhealthy behavior since I actually queued as a ''fake healer''(basically DPS and 2 Hots) because DPS one was taking too long.
