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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »robertlabrie wrote: »It's interesting that the anti-vengeance camp just wants our old campaigns back and the pro-vengeance camp keeps trying to explain why we're wrong and that we should learn to like it.robertlabrie wrote: »It's interesting that the anti-vengeance camp just wants our old campaigns back and the pro-vengeance camp keeps trying to explain why we're wrong and that we should learn to like it.
The anti-vengeance camp doesn’t just want its campaign back. They want to remove Veangence even as an option. If they asked to keep GreyHost side by side with Veangence majority of Vengeance supporters would agree but for some Vengeance haters preventing others from playing Vengeance is more important than getting GreyHost back.
We do not want to remove Vengeance as an option. We want it to be an Option aside ALL regular PvP campaigns. Instead it will be added and 3 of our campaigns will get closed for good. NoCP gone, Standard gone, below 50 gone. Instead we are stuck with CP, Alliance Lock Grey Host for more than double the current population. That will only create huge Queues, preventing us from playing. Vengeance does take something away from us, it doesn't add. Also ZOS focus should have been to fix the actual PvP, not creating a new gamemode.
PCNA in reality 99% of the time u50 campaign has been dead since like clockwork after the Aussie guilds flipped the map to AD for years in a row. Then they moved to NOCP which combined with the already looming AD guilds inevitably flipping the maps nightly killing the campaigns. Then all of these guilds got bored in their own campaign and moved on to greyhost which luckily has the pop to balance them out. The 7day cp campaign turns into overflow hangout spot for ballgroups and 1vX players who hardly even fight each other, being so sweaty made the casual player guilds prefer going to GH or simply not playing.
If the campaigns are dead are we really losing much when Veng replaces them? 90% of people already sit in ques for greyhost or give up and go into bgs for the night. Atleast there is the slight benefit that the uber casual and new players have an entry point in pvp since for years u50 and nocp have been non functional. If anything it frees up que in GH.
They probably learned they cant fix live pvp because its entirely dependent on all of the proc event functions that are disabled with modern item sets, status effect, poisons, weapon enchants, passives, cp, etc. This is why the loadout perk system was made to only modify your permanent character sheet. Design wise they would have to trim ALOT of fat and then limit themselves in ways like maybe only one proc passive per class on the last unlocked bonus. Maybe only ults get crazy effects. Either way it needs to be split from PvE, then you are talking whether to design from the ground up or designing from the top down by untyng a decade long knotted ball of code.
ZOS built it, they can fix it. It's a lie to say they can't do anything to fix live cyrodiil.
Indeed, it's not that they can't. It is that whatever they feel is needed to correct the issues, true or not, they are unwilling to do that as of this time. People have presented fixes before, in fact they claimed last time that replacing their old server tech wouldn't fix lag, and lol it did. We had beautiful performance for a solid few months, so good game sites made articles about it.
I bet yet another update is needed on the hardware and they're measuring the cost vs their bottom line. My theory, moderators, not a conspiracy.
Re: U50 Bug Reports for Whitestrake's Mayhem
Please report any issues you run into while testing Whitestrake's Mayhem in this thread. In general, we prefer you to use /bug in-game but if you’d rather submit a report here, please give us as much information as possible, including screenshots and/or video if applicable. Thank you!
It says that there is new and improved rewards from the boxes but I just opened 20 and it’s the same crap as before. Idk why this event has been framed as a positive rework when really it’s been nerfed. It no longer gives event tickets and the rewards from the boxes are the same as before. How come the patch notes don’t state how they’ve been improved?
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Thieves Guild Questline
@DoofusMax
I found that you can progress past that eventually if you try over and over and over and over when you get teleported back to run thru again... Took like 5 times on my first char thru and like 15 times on my second.
Did you engage with the quest?
Yeah.
Did you find it easy to get the Thieves Guild quests?
Yeah
Did you enjoy the quests? Please provide additional feedback to provide context.
Yeah, I had enough fun to run it on a second character to see what was different. I really liked that at times you were able to actually fail but still progress and that your choices made somewhat different outcomes. I'll put more detail in the spoiler thread later.
Did you find any quests to be problematic from either a directional or difficulty standpoint?
The puzzle difficulty seemed to drop a bit later in the quest line. It might be better to have harder puzzles that are skippable via combat rather than having puzzles that are too easy.
Did you try this questline while using Challenge Difficulty? If so, please provide any feedback on the experience.
I did it on Adventurer and most of it on Master. The traps really really hurt on higher difficulties.
I found that you can progress past that eventually if you try over and over and over and over when you get teleported back to run thru again... Took like 5 times on my first char thru and like 15 times on my second.
Did you engage with the quest?
Yeah.
Did you find it easy to get the Thieves Guild quests?
Yeah
Did you enjoy the quests? Please provide additional feedback to provide context.
Yeah, I had enough fun to run it on a second character to see what was different. I really liked that at times you were able to actually fail but still progress and that your choices made somewhat different outcomes. I'll put more detail in the spoiler thread later.
Did you find any quests to be problematic from either a directional or difficulty standpoint?
The puzzle difficulty seemed to drop a bit later in the quest line. It might be better to have harder puzzles that are skippable via combat rather than having puzzles that are too easy.
Did you try this questline while using Challenge Difficulty? If so, please provide any feedback on the experience.
I did it on Adventurer and most of it on Master. The traps really really hurt on higher difficulties.
Re: Challenge System is Impacting Standard Game Play
I can tolerate the system but it is way too specific. I thought the previous system of daily login and easy daily and weekly better. Those usually took up 3-5 minutes of my time. Now I feel in the beginning of the week I am doing so much busywork to get it over with that I am burned out for the rest of the week
I see all these posts "wow, the game feels so alive again'. But is it? Everyone funnels to the same 8 spots, puts a 5 minute timer on their phone, watch some YouTube or scroll a bit, click once, kill world boss. Reset timer...repeat 5 or more times. Very boring compared to what we had before.
Those challenges should be way way less specific. They got it right with golden pursuit with "complete 5 dungeons' or kill 20 world bosses. The way it is now is boring and I am more waiting than playing the game.
Then there are the 'kill 1000+ of XXX' that last a month. I know you have a whole season, but ESO has been ramming into peoples head to complete everything as fast as possible. So, the other day I even changed my built to so I could steal as many easy crab kills from a distance from other players to get it done more quickly while the other part was farmed in a random +boss group while I was cooking. And yesterday I did the kill 100 bosses in Blessed Crucible at the part where there spawn 4 werewolf bosses, kill 3, jump in lava to die and repeat a few times to get that out of the way. And now I am burned out for the rest of the week and went back to Starfield.
And all of this is grinding is just to unlock the pages that have endeavors and trade bars on them. I don't get it. People used to complain that they were burned out with event. Now it feels like the game is constant having 20 events and they love it.
I see all these posts "wow, the game feels so alive again'. But is it? Everyone funnels to the same 8 spots, puts a 5 minute timer on their phone, watch some YouTube or scroll a bit, click once, kill world boss. Reset timer...repeat 5 or more times. Very boring compared to what we had before.
Those challenges should be way way less specific. They got it right with golden pursuit with "complete 5 dungeons' or kill 20 world bosses. The way it is now is boring and I am more waiting than playing the game.
Then there are the 'kill 1000+ of XXX' that last a month. I know you have a whole season, but ESO has been ramming into peoples head to complete everything as fast as possible. So, the other day I even changed my built to so I could steal as many easy crab kills from a distance from other players to get it done more quickly while the other part was farmed in a random +boss group while I was cooking. And yesterday I did the kill 100 bosses in Blessed Crucible at the part where there spawn 4 werewolf bosses, kill 3, jump in lava to die and repeat a few times to get that out of the way. And now I am burned out for the rest of the week and went back to Starfield.
And all of this is grinding is just to unlock the pages that have endeavors and trade bars on them. I don't get it. People used to complain that they were burned out with event. Now it feels like the game is constant having 20 events and they love it.
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
robertlabrie wrote: »It's interesting that the anti-vengeance camp just wants our old campaigns back and the pro-vengeance camp keeps trying to explain why we're wrong and that we should learn to like it.robertlabrie wrote: »It's interesting that the anti-vengeance camp just wants our old campaigns back and the pro-vengeance camp keeps trying to explain why we're wrong and that we should learn to like it.
The anti-vengeance camp doesn’t just want its campaign back. They want to remove Veangence even as an option. If they asked to keep GreyHost side by side with Veangence majority of Vengeance supporters would agree but for some Vengeance haters preventing others from playing Vengeance is more important than getting GreyHost back.
The problem is vengeance is the first major step in removing GH for good. We don't care that vengeance exists. We're irate that all indications are ZOS plans to eventually leave vengeance up and replace GH with a tiny little map with only one keep with the only large scale cyrodiil activity option being vengeance. ...all this trolling and logical fallacies from the vengeance promoters make it clear vengeance will be even more toxic than live Cyrodiil already is if they even play it.
Re: "WW is too OP" debate from WW Feedback Thread
@Wuuffyy @Arunei
I think both of you should experience what it’s like to fight a 6k DPS build, either on PTS or the live server. You know, just for information’s sake. It’ll be eye-opening, and I can guarantee that after that experience, both of you will see what we meant about this 6k DPS value.
I think both of you should experience what it’s like to fight a 6k DPS build, either on PTS or the live server. You know, just for information’s sake. It’ll be eye-opening, and I can guarantee that after that experience, both of you will see what we meant about this 6k DPS value.
hoangdz
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Re: More Inclusive Cosmetics.
tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »I think I recognize the name, if so I always love seeing your characters around town! Very stylish and using cosmetics in new, creative ways. Looking forward to a photo thread, even if it's to explain a problem, because of the eye for detail and style.
I mainly know the struggle from making argonian and khajiit characters with a broad range of skin colors, so I've definitely seen the "clown" and "saturated" issues there. However, I wouldn't expect those cosmetics (mostly makeup) to always work on those races anyway, because of their variety and fur/scales. Redguards, however, should certainly have more things that work like subtler makeup, visible scars, etc.
Also, hi Tsaeci!
I think my biggest gripe is that more often than not the make-up cosmetics are a hit of miss on anything but lighter skintones. When a cosmetic drops there's only one version we can get instead a multiple to pick from.
I think Dev could consider adding different varieties suited for lighter and darker skintones. Not just for redguards but Dumner and Orcs too! Like a pack of colored options.
A light, medium, and dark version.
And the same for scars cosmetics. There could be a pack with scars suited each races skintone range.
Idk if it would economical for it to be one big pack of all the cosmetics or ethical to split the packs based on race xD
Re: Race passives balance makes more sense now
Being able to configure the racial passives, with the armory or otherwise, would be truly awesome for me.
I would love to have one fully developed character of each class, that I can fine-tune for each role, rather than the half-baked alts I created as metas changed. This extra dps, as small as it might be, actually matters if you've been chasing a trifecta for months. There is also one vastly superior tank race, and one healer too, this is a pity.
Conversely, role players, altoholics, and lore enthusiasts could create more of their dream characters. I remember when the racial passives rework was delivered, there were (surprise!) players complaining here that something wasn't right for a reason or another. Now they could fix it themselves.
And now there are lots of precedents for configurable passives anyway. They could be configured individually, or even simply choose one of the current presets.
Why would a lore enthusiast support this? Races in TES always had fix racial skills that determined them, and ESO took their idea and expanded them a bit. (The passives though were more lore accurate before the rework a few years back)
Mixing racial traits wouldn't have anything to do with lore friendly. The idea is interesting (through a flesh sculptor?) but it ends up the same as subclassing: most will fuse the most efficient setup. Obviously I will combine Dunmer with Breton or Dunmer with Redguard to have the best of both worlds offensively speaking. Same would be done for a tank build.
Dracane
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Malevolent Promise… Don’t think I didn’t notice
Upgrades rank 2 of corpse consumption to mark the closest "non-enemy" player to you...
Like why... Why can't this be applied to enemy players for PvP? It does in “Vengeance”. Do you know how viable corspeburster would be with this class mastery passive? Not to mention, animate blastbones would also be a lot more viable without having to have a corpse on the ground.
Is there ever anything Necromancer can have that isn’t stripped away? I don’t like the behavior of giving necro something that sounds good just be ripped out of the hands of players that have been asking for said change for years.
But Azurblight still works on players… let that sink in
Like why... Why can't this be applied to enemy players for PvP? It does in “Vengeance”. Do you know how viable corspeburster would be with this class mastery passive? Not to mention, animate blastbones would also be a lot more viable without having to have a corpse on the ground.
Is there ever anything Necromancer can have that isn’t stripped away? I don’t like the behavior of giving necro something that sounds good just be ripped out of the hands of players that have been asking for said change for years.
But Azurblight still works on players… let that sink in
AvidNecro
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