Many players came to ESO for the MMO aspect. I know a lot don't, but others do.
Many players, me included, have given feedback to Zos in the past suggesting to "push a little more" the grouping aspect to players.
I'm happy they listened. The reason we asked for this is that the game "felt dead" - it was NOT dead, as some proclaimed, but it felt dead. Seemed like everyone was closed in their house crafting furnishing or whatever XD
Today the game, the world, feels more alive, and thanks to challenges you meet people more often.
I appreciate what Zos did.
I understand some players may be on the "introvert" side and enjoy more a solo experience, like an offline RPG, but others like me could feel pretty lonely wandering the huge wasteland Nirn was before this change.

Now, I'm not saying your issues are not valid points. Just giving a reason WHY Zos did this - it was requested by many of us.
EDIT: I'm not even saying anyone is wrong or arguing. Just that there is another side of the coin where people actually want these changes.

Will there be as deep a Vampire Rework as the one done for the werewolf in a future patch?
My concern is imbalance and immersion. Werewolves not enjoy a lower damage vulnerability to poison while Vampires at stage four are still at full vulnerability comparatively.

I'd like to request that we receive the option of changing form to a half normal half Stage 5 vampire state when at Stage 4 vampirism when we have toggled on the Blood Frenzy since Werewolves now enjoy the ability to be in werewolf form outside of combat for free and I'd like to request that Blood Frenzy when cast outside of combat change our form for free outside of combat including in town without it being a crime to look that way.

Can we rework the skill morph for blood mist so that we stay still when blood mist is cast because it's difficult to float forward and turn around turning a fight when that particular morph is simply used to drain life from enemies around the vampire.

Can the morph for eviscerate have two attacks like the actual blood fiend mobs in the game?

Mesmerize seems to be a waste because it takes up a slot where an attack skill might otherwise go so I'd like to ask that we get one more attack skill for Vampires that does damage maybe a bite or a charge that is really really fast emphasizing a vampires speed.

And finally I'd like to ask for the restoration of the hiding shadow cloak for vampires that we had previously, that was solely usable at night. It was awesome to be wrapped in shadows while crouching and it really gave a unique immersive sense to the vampire status. If you want you can make it not work for PVP that's perfectly fine just as long as it's restored for PVE please!

I think the argument was that they were identifiable characters, not unique in the sense that there's only one of them. Quoting Kevin's post (edit: sorry, this was Zone Lead Tom Murphy's answer) (late-edit to include full answer):

"One of the early design considerations with companions was the balance between "identity" and "customization" for each companion. We wanted to give players as much freedom to customize their traveling companion, while at the same time keeping the identity of the companion the same. We ended up with "no hats" on companions because it hit that sweet spot - where players can make them look any way they wish, but the character and identity of the companion doesn't change because you always see their face." (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/7937639/#Comment_7937639)

I enjoy seeing other players' Bastians (or Azandars or Zeriths), but I wouldn't object to them wearing helmets either.

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Item 2 - Entering the Map by falling off a Platform

• Is your team behind in a deathmatch? Well get ****ed, now you all have to be CC'd for 1.5 seconds when re-entering the fight because, after respawning, you have to enter the map by falling off a platform. And while falling, the enemies can hit you with abilities, but you can't do anything about it.

Genuinely embarrassing game design.

Quick pro tip, if you let go of your movement keys until you hit the ground, you won't do the little somersault when hitting the ground and you get to start casting immediately.

I do agree with everything you said though. Spawn should teleport you to the ground level rather than having to jump down, and the timer for getting forced out of spawn needs to be like 15 seconds max, and ideally done in waves so that anyone in spawn is ported down at the same time (to avoid a trickle effect).

Hoping that they eventually reconsider this decision. The excuse that ZOS used of them being ''unique characters'' or whatever doesn't really work in a multiplayer game where you can see multiple other players with the same Companion with the exact same face, basically a clone.

Allowing Companions to show equipped Helmet Style or Hats would be way less immersion breaking and would end up making them far more ''unique'' than what they currently are.

I never PvP'd much before I took a break and tried venegance last night, it reminds me of FF14 pvp, which I hated because there wasn't build variety. To me one of the most fun parts of ESO is the build crafting, I don't like that this game mode will take most of that away.

The guards tell me what I've done. I don't remember much of any of it. Some of it was so long ago now.

I have noticed everyone is so sure of themselves, and I liked Ithelias uncertainty and struggle, and fury. I couldn't finish her quest, because I didn't want to be part of helping Mora against her.

I think some greek tragedy story lines- doing the right thing but wrong by the gods, or Shakespeare's tragedy, failing thru a human flaw we all have, could be an interesting way to do a bad guy. Less of the James Bond world ending bad guys stuff.

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IviRo wrote: »

Grimsford wrote: »

IviRo wrote: »

I didn't know where to post this topic in the forum categories, so I decided to post it here.

SORCERER REWORK

In anticipation of changes to the Sorcerer class, I would like to see Zos focus more on Lightning and Dark Magic, rather than Daedric Summoning.
I would replace the Daedra line with another school of magic as an alternative, it could be Alteration.
If you look at the class description, where it draws its power from, it's more like a Warlock than a Sorcerer.
Actually, as a sorcerer main, I would gladly give up the Daedric Summoning line for a new class that would be exclusively associated with Daedra.



@ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_Amy

Yes, of course... Dark magic and summoning make up two-thirds of the class. Now they're going to remove everything and start from scratch, just because "IviRo" wants it that way.
Sorcerer is NOT the same as Mage. If you want to play a MAGE, there's the Destruction Staff skill line for you - you can use a combination of a Fire/Frost staff and a Sorcerer's Lightning tree.

Lmao, I want them to remove the three pets from this class and replace those skills with ones that are more suitable for it, and create a separate system for the pets.
Many people have spoken out about the pets, and they’ve even described them in detail here.
I haven’t said a word about removing Dark Magic.

1. Why on earth should the Daedric Summoning skill line be removed from Sorcerer and put into a separate skill line for everyone?

I think people like you are confusing the concepts and forgetting that a sorcerer is NOT the same as a mage. I've already written about this above.
You're suggesting replacing summoning with something else—alteration or another element—while still keeping the dark magic skill line. That doesn't make any sense, because what do dark magic and, let´s say, fire magic have to do with each other?

Okay, let's forget about the other element. You mentioned Alteration.
Alteration spells include lockpicking, underwater breathing, shields, etc. How is that supposed to help the class?
If you really want the Alteration skill line, it's definitely worth adding as an additional skill line to the "World" tab.

2. I'd rather remove the Lightning tree from Sorcerer and replace it with Mysticism, focusing on spells like dispel, spell absorption, spell reflection, and soul trap.


I'll say it again - if you want to play a "Mage", you have carte blanche in the form of the entire skill line of the Destruction Staff, where you have a set of spells from different schools.

I propose the following:

Remove the Lightning skill line from Sorcerer and give it to Warden.

Sorcerer will have three skill lines:

Dark Magic – the main damage skill line, with a spammable ability in the form of Crystal Shard and some AoE spells too and debuff kit;

Conjuration – a defensive/offensive skill line featuring armor and weapon summoning, similar to TES4 Oblivion, and summoning pets with a set of abilities to enhance them (like Daedric Prey);

Mysticism – a support skill line featuring shields, healing, and so on.

THIS IS WHAT SORCERER IS REALLY ABOUT.

1. The reason that many of us are suggesting current Sorc pets be shifted to a "world" Conjuring line is multiple.

a) It's abundantly clear that there isn't enough slot space to run both a pet based Sorc as well as a non-pet based Sorc with the amount of available skill lines each class gets. Splitting the Sorc between the two build & play styles means that each gets a reduced scope of potential skills and in the current state of the game with the huge degree of power creep that sets Sorcs back.

b) The underlying mechanics of Sorc pets are also lackluster in terms of gameplay. We see fewer pets slotted (in general) and even when they are slotted it's often for a singular purpose which is already redundant to Sorcs (i.e. healing).

c) The damage output on Sorc pets is sub-par in the current state of the game (when compared to what other classes can output). Just dialing up the damage values doesn't fix this because, as others have mentioned, the mechanics of managing pets is just too slow and clunky for the current state of combat, whether that be PvP or PvE.

Sorcer's may not be a Mage, per se, but they rely on magic and Magicka in their root lore as their source of power. I do agree that Sorcs aren't "elemental" in nature and don't necessarily have to have a particular elemental strength.

One of the major pain points for Sorc is that we don't have a reliable heavy burst spammable skill. Crystal Frags is a joke and while Crystal Weapon is often the more powerful choice, that skill aligns with Stam Sorc and leaves Mag based Sorcs out in the cold.

The Sorc skill lines are loaded with redundant utility which make us more of a cheerleader class whereas other classes can hit hard and have a useful toolkit. Sorcs don't need 3 to 4 crowd control abilities, half of which aren't effective against the majority of opponents.

When we look at the whole scope of gameplay, whether it be PvE or PvP and we look at what Sorcs can bring our class has fallen too far behind. Subclassing has enabled significant jumps in power and flexibility and we just can't compete. We need skills that deliver on power and utility in ways that are actually useful in more than niche builds.

Some of us are tired of Sorcs being relegated to heavy attack builds because we aren't good for much more than that.

In the game your classes with top healing potential are Templar & Warden .. your top classes for damage dealing are Nightblade, Dragon Knight, & Arcanist ... The class with a strong summoner based lore and skill set is Necromancer ... so where does that leave Sorc? Our damage is limited and confined, often seeing us leaning on world skills or super limited play styles. Our summoned pets under perform against the likes of Necros.

At a time in the past, sure, Sorcs & pets made sense and fit well into gameplay combat but that time is gone and with all of the changes ZoS has put into the game that aren't going to go away we have to really rethink what Sorcs can do.

If the Devs re-work and keep Dark Magic, giving us a reliable spammable burst skill & a reliable execute (i.e. reworking Mages Fury into a dark magic skill), that would be fine.

The swap to Mysticism, I'm ok with that too, that would be a great place for defensive / utility skills

The Conjuration is where I take pause. Summoning armor and weapons starts to move towards redundant because if we're putting defense & utility is Mysticism then we don't want to end up back in same place of having redundant skills. Conjuring something like a Daedric Blade that would be a close proximity damage dealing skill that would give Sorcs that are ranged DPS the potential to engage in close quarters combat without having to focus on Stam based melee weapons; rather the Blade would run off the primary of Mag or Stam. This also works given subclassing has given everyone access to more gap closers and mobility buffs so the concepts of keeping at distance has been reduced. .. A skill like that would be useful and provide flexibility.

As for the pets, I'm sorry, but IMO they need a complete mechanical rebuild to be effective in gameplay anymore. Slotting a Sorc pet is a hard choice to defend when we have so many skills available via subclassing. Sorc pets aren't BIS in PvE or PvP and what's the point of having skills locked into a class when they're only there for nostalgia lore? If the majority of players aren't going to slot and use them then clearly they're better served somewhere else.

A world line works because nobody would have to subclass to access them, leaving the opportunity to stay a pure-class and run pets intact. It would also allow more dedicated skills and passives that are 100% pet centric, not shared. Sorcs need to be competitive in the current state of gameplay and the pets sadly aren't.