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Re: Conservation of Energy needs to be adjusted for the health of the game
Major_Mangle wrote: »Can't wait for another sorc meta...feel like I barely recovered mentally from the hardened ward meta.....
It's fine, this "sorc meta" people are scared of will be no different than the previous AC + Ass + SC/RL sub-classing meta we had before the DK refresh and won't be any worse than the current DK meta:
- Spec bow will be replaced by armaments that deals less damage, stacks fall off much quicker and comes with very mediocre passives that don't buff damage.
- Surprise attack will be replaced by twin slashes or dizzy swing (or BfB/AB for a magsorc that wants to try and copy this stamsorc playstyle).
- Shulks will be replaced by curse, just with no breach and a much clearer telegraph (and can be cleansed).
- Breach will have to come from ele sus (requires a bar slot and back bar ice staff)
- There will be no cleanse due to no netch, so expect your debuffs to linger on the sorc.
- No incap 20% damage taken debuff.
- Lower DPS overall due to missing a lot of the DPS (crit) passives that come from assassination/animal companions (even statics screenshots posted only show 4-4.5k DPS (or 5k dps on the max stam build that is very squishy comparatively) compared to DK pulling 6-6.5k DPS and WW (pre-nerf) pulling 10k+).
- Ward will be nowhere in sight because there's nothing buffing it to insane values like there was during U41 (wield soul with shield script would be infinitely better anyway if a sorc wanted to go with shields due to all the utility that can be added to it and that it can be self buffed with major vitality).
If you survived the sub-class meta, you can easily deal with this supposed upcoming stamsorc meta (despite WW and DK looking overall significantly stronger still on PTS outside of specifically survival)
Re: IA antiquities Questions for the DEV's or anyone who may have the answer.
ElderSmitter wrote: »I have recently begun the long journey into collecting all the Antiquities in IA. I have been farming for a week now solid and have had a few drops not a ton. 3 Mythic Lead drops and 4 Jewelry station drop the Fossil Slug drop, the Light Diffuser (small) and the Petrified watcher. I also completed the Templar outfit and have now started getting style pages for characters I cannot use but still can collect, i guess. I have not had a duplicate yet as I like to dig them up when I get them BUT I just read that digging them up gives you a chance to get a duplicate IS THIS TRUE?? I am terrified now to dig up these leads as I am not sure if they are curated and it's going to take me months to get them all.
Thank you to anyone who has the answer. The good news I have yet to get a duplicate but have stopped digging them up.
TIA
Elder Smitter.
1. If the antiquity is a part of the multy-part item, you can dig it up and then get no duplicate lead until the whole multipart thing being collected.
2. If the antiquity is a single piece item (like an eye furniture etc), you can get the repeated lead quite next run after you dug it out.
For the lead farming, I got many of them from mini-game chests (mysterious portals). So please do not ignore them, if you run for the leads.
Re: A poll about crossplay
No, but it’s inevitable so I said yes with concerns. I don’t want voice chat on pc, I hear consoles are more toxic, and the economy.
I’m not anti-social, I just don’t want to hear people unless I’m in a vc. I tend to listen to music… but if I just turn off vc, then I can’t hear people ask for help in a dungeon pug… I also don’t talk to strangers.
Economy-wise, not only would gold be inflated further due to the increased amount of it, there would be a shock to the console economies because gold is already worth a lot less on pc.
You should be careful what you listen to, people are the same everywhere you go. Some great and helpful and friendly, some not. This is how it is on PC? Probably, right. Same on console. Psna, I have made wonderful friends and encountered helpful polite folks. There's also the occasional not so great person. To think it would be any different than Pc is kind of a weird bias. It's easy, watch. I don't wanna merge with PC, you know they're all toxic elitist gatekeepers who want parses and logs for a vet fungal grotto run and will shame you in front of the group if you're on the bottom of hodors in a run. You and I both know it's untrue, but it's a reputation PC has and see how easy it is to spread? One just has to repeat the lie enough.
As for voice chat, you know you can turn it off right? Since console launch, I have not one time talked in any open zone voice chat. Ever. Any risk of bad chat is mitigated by the leave channel option. Though I don't care if it makes it to PC, as discord is a thing and is integrated with ps.
There are many issues and questions about what crossplay means and what will happen. I would hope though, that we could leave out the us vs them.
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Re: Theorising on how to improve Sorcerer Masteries
Pinktraining wrote: »I don't think the developers will waste too many resources on Sorc before the Warden rework is complete. (Of course, even after the Warden rework, they won't waste resources on Sorc either.) Sorc players will either have to switch to another class or continue to tolerate the current situation. After all, it's well known that the developers don't like Sorc; just look at past developer comments: "Those who don't like the Sorc skill line should replace it with a subclass."
Excuse me? They said this really?
They're referring to when subclassing became available and they tried to make excuses for how butt Daedric Summoning was with comments like, well if you don't like pets, pick up another line.
Obviously insensitive to how people want to play this game, and I'd argue they've since learned that people very much want a complete and wholistic pure class kit with options instead of forcing you to play something else.
But yeah, let's be a bit more optimistic, Sorc rework is probably already in the early stages of developement since it will hit PTS by Sept 13, only 4.5 months from now. The current Mastery's will eventually need to be retooled to fit the new skills and passives anyway, at least we don't have to wait long. I just wanted something fun and powerful for the mean time.
Re: Surveys: Please let us simultaneously harvest multiples of the same survey
I think the only issue they might have is if you have say 3x of a survey and you're harvesting nodes, making each node x3 resources. Ok fine do all 6 survey nodes in 6 actions and have it be the equivalent of 24. What happens if you run out of inventory space mid-run? Once you tag the first node you'll have consumed all 6 and you'll be leaving a lot more on the ground.
That said there has to be a better reset mechanism than riding half way across the map (looking at you Shadowfen clothier survey).
Or if they went with the "all at once" suggestion a simple inventory check before you start ought to be enough. Totally agree with the above that actually doing surveys is tedious.
That said there has to be a better reset mechanism than riding half way across the map (looking at you Shadowfen clothier survey).
Or if they went with the "all at once" suggestion a simple inventory check before you start ought to be enough. Totally agree with the above that actually doing surveys is tedious.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Stamsorc and magsorc will 100% be the 2nd or at least 3rd strongest spec in the game after this patch goes live, guaranteed. We gaming now fellas
And this is a sin? Sorc can only be abided when it's last or 2nd last? I do not see the issue here. Good it's finally playable with good emphasis again.
Until you fight 40k+ HP sorcs that proc Blood Magic every GCD with a 4.4 - 4.7k tooltip. Then you’d wish this passive never went live in that state.
I personally think that passive needs to proc off Sorc abilities only, but what can I do? ZOS has the final say.
@hoangdz
I don't hate this and I think it's fine for right now because Sorc hasn't had their refresh yet.
Remember, we have to compete with the whole scope of subclassed builds, that includes BOTH Stam Sorc & Mag Sorc and whilst Stam Sorc has the clear advantage if we nerf the passives then Mag Sorc gets tossed into the back seat again.
I've been a proponent that these passives need to deliver pretty strongly because Sorc skill slotting is so poor in a pure class context, especially in PvP.
Given the power creep that we've seen out of the subclassed crit metas in PvP I think this is fine. Leave it for now and then adjust accordingly during the Sorc refresh.
Sorcs may have gained solid sustain here but they still have garbage skills in the grand scheme of combat .. We still have no target mobility debuff, our go-to mobility skill has less range than other class abilities and poor follow up, we have no reliable spammable heavy burst.
Plus, there's a slew of other class skills that deliver a heal component with their spammable damage output so the Sorc passives help align us in that perspective with those other skills in an a by proxy way. We're still very much lacking so this is needed right now.
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Re: Sorc nerfs are too heavy handed
I posted this on another thread but the pets should be put on a world line of summoning and go pet less as a class. So tired of the fight about it and needing to run them to attempt real damage. They’re also annoying in group content visually.
Also don’t disagree about the damage ceiling but until they nerf the arcanist the 170m parse isn’t going anywhere, so other classes need to match that.
Also don’t disagree about the damage ceiling but until they nerf the arcanist the 170m parse isn’t going anywhere, so other classes need to match that.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 2 Summary
Empower [Feedback]: Thanks to many of the discussions and breakdowns of popular use cases, we’re making some adjustments to the values for certain effects that saw a reduction in power after the combat calculation changes with Damage Done to Monsters. Most of these are not huge bumps in power that immediately make them as strong as they were in all cases (since the loss of power is still highly subjective to many factors) but should help them feel more competitive with other bonuses. Empower is the most notable increase, going from 70% to 100% - but will come with a stipulation that the damage bonus will no longer apply while the effect holder has Battle Spirit, to correct some of the extreme damage possible against players in PvPvE situations. We are also not increasing every bonus, namely Velothi, as its power offered is still quite dense even after the changes.
Emphasis mine but... Heavy Attack builds aren't welcome in PvEvP areas now?
Empower is basically the only reason Heavy Attack builds function because... as you know, it has a outrageously massive buff to damage vs PvE monsters. Oakensoul release was an easy way to have 100% uptime, so it was basically the base build... now there's Rakkat's Voidmantle for +50%, but it's harder to use due to swapping resource restore method. Stacking them is the absolute peak of heavy attack damage at present.
Remove Empower from Imperial City, and Heavy Attack builds are completely gutted for an area full of PvE mobs... is the interaction with players not ideal? Of course. But how often does this edge case actually happen? 1/50 encounters in Imperial City? Cryodiil Guards get exploded by all players, so it's hardly based around them. And even when it does rarely happen, the Heavy Attack build is pretty much fodder into PvP content... the absolute BEST[ one can do is deliberately try to bait a player into being atop a NPC when your final heavy attack tick goes off. If not, you get jumped and die pretty much without resistance. Even if you DO kill them, they're not going to stand atop a NPC next time.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this already been addressed with multiple nerfs to Lightning Heavy Attacks already? They used to splash damage for every single tick, now it's only the final tick. Wasn't that for the same damn reason? Almost all your damage is single target unless mobs are high enough HP for the heavy to fully complete AND they have to be all clumped together. I don't see any sign those changes are being undone, this is just being dumped on top. I won't even touch upon the 'bugged' multiplicative damage being adjusted so it's getting weaker as a whole.
All in all, I would've considered PvP Zone Empower to be the lowest of the low issues to focus on. Subclassing is even stronger, it's not being adjusted. Why can a Arcanist/Templar/Nightblade beamblitz through Imperial City, but my heavy attack damage is being gutted? The extremely oppressive PvP builds are apparently fine (Charm removes all character control, all you did was try to fix it bugging people through terrain). Is the new small-scale PvP area full of hundreds of clumped mobs or something where Heavy Attack builds are gonna dominate or something?
What's the rationale here?
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Stamsorc and magsorc will 100% be the 2nd or at least 3rd strongest spec in the game after this patch goes live, guaranteed. We gaming now fellas
And this is a sin? Sorc can only be abided when it's last or 2nd last? I do not see the issue here. Good it's finally playable with good emphasis again.
Until you fight 40k+ HP sorcs that proc Blood Magic every GCD with a 4.4 - 4.7k tooltip. Then you’d wish this passive never went live in that state.
I personally think that passive needs to proc off Sorc abilities only, but what can I do? ZOS has the final say.
hoangdz
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