virtus753 wrote: »

If we could activate it on our end or by request, it could be exploited indefinitely.

This is a good point... but it would be really nice if we could activate it one time by request. After that, give it whatever cooldown is needed... once per season or something. Or even limit the rewards based on how many times you've done it, and adjust it so it re-teaches old skills and introduces new ones...

Not just thinking about my daughter, but in the past month I've met active players who've been going for years and don't know about shrines that reset attributes, people playing for three months and not understanding how to make a horse faster, or people who still wear 8 pieces of a 5-piece set. I want to tell them "go do this tutorial, it was actually helpful" but there's no way to make it happen if you're a regular player.

Necro was in its first couple years overpowered; and it kept being nerfed.
Arcanist was the new shiny thing with Necrom but has not really been nerfed that much.

Every new combat change seems to nerf the wrong class.

NoSoup wrote: »

M1SHAAN wrote: »

I picked Kyne's Aegis because I think (perhaps erroneously) that it is more single-target-dps-friendly than some of the newer trials, and therefore is less likely to skew towards arcanists. The numbers speak for themselves, though. It will be interesting to see if the nerf to Arc Banner changes anything in Update 47. All data from https://esologs.com/zone/statistics/14

Lets be real though, these stats are a bit cherry picked and don't really convey the real story. Look at the top ten dps from update 46 on the logs.
Out of the top 10 half are arcanists, but only 2 used fatecarver in their rotation. Yet, of the top ten, every player had assassination in their rotation. The reason you've seen such a growth in Arcanist as a base class has more to do with their skill lines complementing other skill lines better than any other class, more so than "fatecarver is the only way".

Yes, fatecarver will be greatly helping the mid tier players, but mid tier players will always flock to the easiest rotation possible even if it isn't the best option. Personally I don't see any need to nerf fatecarver and I'd go as far to say that other skills don't even need to be buffed, the one thing that can probably do with a buff which will even everything out is buffing light attacks. A good buff to light attacks will keep the mid tier players in the spot they're in now while allowing non-beam players with the skills (and over inflated egos that so desperately need to be miles above the pack) out pacing any beam build. We also need to be mindful of how the nerf to merciless is going to affect the average beam build, its a sizeable chunk of wp/sp damage they're losing which is probably going to require an added dot to their rotations to match U46 DPS.

As the original poster stated, these stats are from Kynes Aegis because it's the least arcanist favoured newer trial. So yes, these stats are purposefully cherry picked, but not in the direction you think. It's well known that single target focused builds can outperform fatecarver builds in single target damage. Where the problem lies is AoE damage. Fatecarver is far superior to anything else in terms of cleave damage and it's not even close. This makes the vKA logs even more worrying, that a trial which is pretty much entirely single target focused, is still dominated by beam builds. Your suggestion to buff light attacks, even though I'm all for it, wouldn't solve the issue at hand. The merciless nerf is going to do absolutely nothing to beam builds, because it doesn't solve the underlying issue with the class balance, which is the lack of AoE options to compete with the beam.

NoSoup wrote: »

nb_rich wrote: »

NoSoup wrote: »

M1SHAAN wrote: »

I picked Kyne's Aegis because I think (perhaps erroneously) that it is more single-target-dps-friendly than some of the newer trials, and therefore is less likely to skew towards arcanists. The numbers speak for themselves, though. It will be interesting to see if the nerf to Arc Banner changes anything in Update 47. All data from https://esologs.com/zone/statistics/14

Lets be real though, these stats are a bit cherry picked and don't really convey the real story. Look at the top ten dps from update 46 on the logs.
Out of the top 10 half are arcanists, but only 2 used fatecarver in their rotation. Yet, of the top ten, every player had assassination in their rotation. The reason you've seen such a growth in Arcanist as a base class has more to do with their skill lines complementing other skill lines better than any other class, more so than "fatecarver is the only way".

Yes, fatecarver will be greatly helping the mid tier players, but mid tier players will always flock to the easiest rotation possible even if it isn't the best option. Personally I don't see any need to nerf fatecarver and I'd go as far to say that other skills don't even need to be buffed, the one thing that can probably do with a buff which will even everything out is buffing light attacks. A good buff to light attacks will keep the mid tier players in the spot they're in now while allowing non-beam players with the skills (and over inflated egos that so desperately need to be miles above the pack) out pacing any beam build. We also need to be mindful of how the nerf to merciless is going to affect the average beam build, its a sizeable chunk of wp/sp damage they're losing which is probably going to require an added dot to their rotations to match U46 DPS.

I hear you, but your talking about the top 10 players. Millions of people play the game so the top 10 sweaty people playing in PC with mods, add ons and all types of glitchy stuff means nothing tbh.

The average every day player (a mid tier player according to you) is using fatecarver due to how its better then every spammable in the game. No spammable in the game can be used at range, do big damage, provide a damage shield, hit multiple targets, easy to sustain and requires no skill, which is what most of you still fail to realize.

When it comes to the assassination skill line, people mainly use it for the passives not for any sort of skill that can be spammed thats broken, so this is okay. You can mix the assassination skill line with any other skill line in the game as a damage dealer and still look different and be using different skills then someone else. Thinking about it now, the assassination skill line is the most diverse dps skill line. Some people may use the ultimate, some may use the execute, some might use that bow skill (the one that everyone was slotting passively) unlike Harold of the Tome where majority of people using it have to use the tentacle arm, fatecarver, inspired scolarship, whatever arena weapon skill, and cloak since almost everyone in PvE used daggers.

Well what's the issue here, is it how much a single skill is being used or how visible it is? Because when you look through the dps logs Killer's blade, Merciless resolve and Soul harvest are on far, far fffaaaaarrrrr more builds than fatecarver. Yet the issue is fatecarver? If you look through the logs and ask the question, which skills are the crutch skills based on how many people have them slotted, then the answer would be the NB skills. But no, fatecarver is the issue? Is it just because as a player you're more prone to noticing fatecarver because its more visible?

The issue is how invasive Herald of the Tome is as a skill line when it comes to subclassing. Both Herald of the Tome and Assassination are by far the strongest skill lines, but if you were to actually compare them and think why people are relatively fine with one (in PvE) and opposed to the other one. If you have a DK and you switch Earthen Heart with Assassination, you still feel like you are playing DK, because most of the Assassination's power comes from the passives and even with skills you can simply opt not to use them, and still gain almost all of the benefits from the skill line. Now compare this to Herald of the Tome, if you want to utilize the skill line, you have to keep creating and consuming crux. This requires you to use either runeblades or flail as spammable, and either fatecarver or tentacular dread to consume them. So even in the best scenario, you will have to switch your whip for runeblades and shove in tentacular dread to boot, not mention a fatecarver build which requires you to pretty much forget about your base class and just beam or create the crux to beam. The tentacular dread build is much less invasive, so people don't tend to complain about it as much, but the passives on Herald of the Tome are still way superior to any of the other skill lines.

This is what actually cherry picked data looks like if you want to make a point against the beam ↓
vOC HM class distribution

Every single arcanist was using beam that I checked through though I'm sure someone was mad enough to try a dread build and I just couldn't find it.

In ESO, not necessary at all. None of my characters have a backstory. In some other games (not all), I like to have one. The SP Elder Scroll games, for example. I like to come up with a story for why my character is in prison, or in Skyrim, why they were crossing the border.

Monthly Active Users likely log in too frequently to get this. It’s an incentive for players who have been gone for longer and who may see no reason to return. MAUs already have a reason to return regularly, even if they do so on a less frequent basis than WAUs or DAUs.

Last month it was reported here on the forums that an account last logged into in April had it active by mid-June. It seems about two months at most to trigger by that account, and perhaps as little as six weeks.

The rewards are also designed for the length of time to trigger it. They’d probably lower the rewards if it could be activated in 2/3 or 1/2 of the time it takes to trigger now. If we could activate it on our end or by request, it could be exploited indefinitely. (Not saying you’d do that, but there are always bad actors out there.)

spartaxoxo wrote: »

As one tech CEO put it, to paraphrase, AI is always available, it never needs to eat or sleep, and it doesn't need benefits.

And that's frankly an alarming mindset for all people because the scale of job loss that this can create if left unregulated and unchecked is unprecedented.

As a 30-year full-stack developer who uses "AI" every day, I don't know what these people are smoking. I have to fight with it to get it to do even simple things most of the time, and half the time it looks right, it's still wrong in subtle ways. I'm good at what I do because I understand the problem domain intimately, and can ask the right questions. Coding the answer is a relatively small part of the solving the problem. And yet I'm worried that I, too, will be made redundant because some middle manager thinks I am replaceable with a Copilot subscription.

My custom character in a lot of games is typically meant to be a character without an identity, which is a really strange identity to have. The idea of playing a character whose identity was removed from them sounds cool, so long as I never have to go into the painfully boring details about what kind of person they were like before. I'd rather focus on what they are currently doing, rather than constantly referencing the past to figure out what they'd do in the present.

Sometimes I combine that idea of the "missing identity" character with that of a "loner" character, but not always. The "loner" character is typically meant to be a generic face in a crowd; the focus of the story is not supposed to be on them. If they were an enemy, they'd be cannon fodder. It's fun to play as one in a multiplayer setting because — while everyone is busy playing the hero of the story — my character can be an observer who is less important and is not protagonist or even side character material. It's truly the best way to remain anonymous, alone, and without any remarkable identity. Not even mysterious enough to be interesting! Plus, it saves me time having to come up with trivial details that nobody should have to care about.

I do think they missed an opportunity with Solstice, especially as they spoke of it being isolated and hard to reach. The culture on the island shouldn't really have such heavy mainland Tamriel influences to it. There was a chance to give us something unique, but it seems they only went as far as introducing a different variety of faith in the Three Queens.

I'm still hoping we get some interesting lore with the Stone-Nest tribe that's on the eastern half of the island.