BretonMage wrote: »But what does it matter if they finish it earlier? All it does is mean they can unlock pages sooner, they aren't getting more rewards than anyone else, nor are they able to start unlocking next Season's rewards early or anything. If you're completing your Challenges you'll get the rewards either way, whether they take the whole Season or not. Getting them faster or slower doesn't change that you'll get them.I think it's too early to tell if the varying number of tome points in the challenges will matter all that much. For one thing, plenty of the rewards are next-to-useless for long-time players, and there's no need to claim them all. For another, you can't carry more than 2000 points to the next tome anyway, so it doesn't even make sense to try to stock up.
No, its not too early to tell. I got 25% less than someone else. That is a clear disparity, and we can see it right now. The person that got an extra 500 points currently has access to things that I do not, entirely because of rng. If their good luck and my bad luck hold, they can finish the tome a month earlier than I can, and require less grinding to get there. It shouldn't take me longer to get the same rewards, full stop.
Others finishing earlier means they save time. Real world time, which as we know, is valuable to us all. I think this is a valid concern.I dunno, I don't see it personally as an issue because of a couple of things:But what does it matter if they finish it earlier? All it does is mean they can unlock pages sooner, they aren't getting more rewards than anyone else, nor are they able to start unlocking next Season's rewards early or anything. If you're completing your Challenges you'll get the rewards either way, whether they take the whole Season or not. Getting them faster or slower doesn't change that you'll get them.I think it's too early to tell if the varying number of tome points in the challenges will matter all that much. For one thing, plenty of the rewards are next-to-useless for long-time players, and there's no need to claim them all. For another, you can't carry more than 2000 points to the next tome anyway, so it doesn't even make sense to try to stock up.
No, its not too early to tell. I got 25% less than someone else. That is a clear disparity, and we can see it right now. The person that got an extra 500 points currently has access to things that I do not, entirely because of rng. If their good luck and my bad luck hold, they can finish the tome a month earlier than I can, and require less grinding to get there. It shouldn't take me longer to get the same rewards, full stop.
What do you mean "what does it matter if they finish it earlier?" Of course it matters, I'm getting shafted having to grind and do stuff I don't want to do instead of the stuff I enjoy while they're already done and off to have actual fun. Because of rng and zos' insistence on locking rewards behind grinding instead of real content, I've been chosen to have less fun than someone else. I've been chosen to have more of my time wasted. Plus, if I have to use caches, then its costing me more money to reach the same point! So yes, its completely unfair for no reason, and it sure as oblivion matters.
1) No one is going to consistently be getting the activities with the super high amount of Tome Points. We've all seen that the reroll system needs some SERIOUS work. You can use all five of them and wind up rerolling into a task you're trying to get away from over and over again. And on the other side of that, people getting tasks with the fewer Points won't ALWAYS be unlucky and get only those. This is the first week of the system, it might look like some people will consistently ALWAYS have more and others ALWAYS have less, but I'm willing to bet as time goes on it will even out and people will more than likely wind up getting more or less the same amount, even if any one or two week's amounts are higher or lower than someone else's.
2) These aren't meant to be knocked out in a couple of days. Most of them you probably could if you really put your time into it, but you can have up to 12 Weekly Challenges roll over, which means the ones you CAN knock out in a few days you likely will, and those that take you longer because of something like limited schedule can be done at a slower pace.
Now I WILL admit that this particular bit CAN mean people with more time can get their five Challenges a week done every week and thus get more Points total than those who can't, but on the other hand...that would be the case even IF all the Challenges offered the same amount of Points. Some people will have the time to do 60 Challenges every Season, some people won't. It was like that for Endeavors. So there will already be people who can unlock Pages/rewards faster than others anyway, simply because there will always be people who can complete every Challenge every week and those who can't.
I do get the point is "If I do all my Weekly Challenges and get 2k Points, why is that less than someone who does them all and gets 2.5k?" And like I already mentioned, that's assuming before the first week is even done that everyone will consistently get the same numbers every week that they're getting from this week, and that won't be the case.
3) Starting next Season in U50, they're going to be introducing doing rerolls for Gold after your initial five. I don't think they've mentioned if THOSE ones have a limit or if they'll be unlimited, but it does mean you'll have more chances starting next update to get tasks worth more points if you prefer doing that. ESPECIALLY if they take into account how shoddy the reroll system is now and rework it to NOT give you something you rerolled three times in a row >__>.
I believe the disparity between points IS because there are tasks that are harder or take longer than others, but ZOS is expecting they'll eventually even out over the course of every Season because Person A won't always be getting the Do Five Trials every week, and Person B won't be getting Harvest 15 Mats every week for the disaprity to remain regular.
The weird thing is, for the free tome, you have to earn 20K tome points to unlock all the rewards, but if you buy every single reward, you only spend 16K tome points. I haven't done the math for the Premium and Premium + tiers, but they give you even more tome points. So I suspect Premium and Premium+ customers will lose even more tome points at the end of the Season.Apollosipod wrote: »
1000% this. If you want us to upgrade to premium versions and spend tome points on these items, they have to be worth doing so. Not bland set pieces and a bunch of items I've already had sitting in a box for a year. I don't need to add to the pile.
SilverBride wrote: »Elvenheart wrote: »Haha, I could never figure out how to do rerolls because I kept trying to click on the 🎲 🎲 😆
I haven't tried it yet but this that's what I thought we were supposed to do.
This whole system is so not user friendly.

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Danz_Macabre wrote: »It's just dressed up endeavours and golden pursuits.
I am not sure what the confusion is about?
You had to click on the daily rewards to get them, same thing here.
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