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Re: Raising The Level Cap?
CP10-160 is pointless, and I just leveled to 160 on Alik'r dolmens once I realized the gear I was getting at those CP levels was useless. However, the solution is not to raise the level cap, but just make CP160 automatic at level 50 (congrats on level 50, here is your CP reward).
If they were to increase level cap, I would most likely just leave the game (already on the edge for so many other reasons, just waiting to reach the tipping point).
If they were to increase level cap, I would most likely just leave the game (already on the edge for so many other reasons, just waiting to reach the tipping point).
Taggund
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Re: How are folks feeling about new ESO direction?
Overall, it's a mixed bag. In no particular order:
Communication: 10x better than before. OK, 10x is probably an exaggeration, but still better than it used to be. Many parts of that still need work, but the more frequent livestreams, the efforts being make to keep players up to date on what's happening (and even some of why it's happening) is much appreciated. Many pretty important details were omitted from official descriptions of how some of the newer stuff (Tomes and challenges, for example) would actually operate, so "still needs work."
Production cycle: jury is still out. I understand and generally like the move toward more focused and hopefully more polished content releases going forward. That said, there haven't been (m)any yet. Writhing Wall and the Writhing Fortress were the last "content" releases and the first run of Fortress was, uhmmm... "less than stellar"? I'm not wholly pinning that event on current leadership as those wheels were undoubtedly set in motion much farther back in time, but "flawed execution of an interesting idea" sums up my take. While I'm very happy that console players will not be lagging PC by a couple of weeks at each update, accomplishing that by trimming a week or so off the PTS cycle seems questionable.
Tomes: probably the elephant in the room at present. Some good, some "meh," and some really not-good. The idea of a three-month "catalog" of earnable rewards is interesting and I think the system of unlocking pages by earning the currency used to buy from the catalog has some merit. However, and it's a big "however," players on the free tier are required to earn almost 5K points more than there is stuff to buy and they will lose any unspent points in excess of the 2K carryover. This is essentially 3K-4K points worth of grind with nothing to show for it. The total cost to unlock those last pages should not exceed the cost of everything up to and including those last pages on the free tier and ideally should be somewhat less because there will be stuff in there that players won't want. Premium tier is Premium tier; you pays your money... Bonus? $15 extra for a costume and some Tome points isn't appealing. Even the "Deluxe" versions of the Upgrades and Collections included a unique costume (or outfit), a mount, a non-combat pet, and usually one or two other goodies and that was only a $10 upgrade from standard.
Back to the points, costs, and speaking strictly for myself, I'd need to earn 20K to unlock the two bonus pages (there are some rewards on those that I'd buy), but there are somewhere between 5K and 7K worth of free-tier rewards that I've got no desire or use for. For example, a crate with Exemplary Jewelry will do nothing but occupy inventory space until U50 gets here to let me decon it (all my characters know all traits on all gear) and the same thing with the crate of random Nirnhoned stuff. Alchemy ingredient bag? Puh-leez. My craft bag already floweth over, I give away stuff, and still have more than I'll ever use (I could probably cause at least a temporary market price-dip on Columbine if I were to sell it). Travel Parcel? Everyone's mount is upgraded and I have no use for a Wayshrine Navigation Chart. Adventuring Supply Pack (twice)? Got plenty of that, thank-you-very-much. Crafting upgrade stuff? OK, I'll take the gold mats, but don't really need the rest. If ZOS isn't catching the subtext here, don't make players earn 20K worth of coin, offer them 15K worth of stuff to buy with it (including stuff that they won't want), and then take the coins out of their pockets at the end of the Tome because they have "too many." Exceptionally poor implementation on this front.
Challenges system: The challenges themselves aren't any great shakes; they're essentially endeavors or pursuits with a different name. There is absolutely nothing new there and that's fine, but rerolls need a lot of work. "Reroll" means "I don't want to do that." Why a player doesn't want to do that is completely irrelevant; they don't and that's all there is to it. Any challenge that a player rerolls should be at least temporarily removed from the pool of potential challenges; don't give it back to them on the next reroll. Instead of rerolls, why not something closer to "here's a list of 10 different challenges for the week, but you must remove five"? Same effect, RNG came up with the list, and the player keeps what they prefer rather than reaching back into the bag for another random Scrabble tile.
Gold Coast Bazaar: I'm going to have to admit that I haven't looked at it since PTS. I used the Jester's Trade Bars to snag the last piece of the next-to-last Indrik for my collection, and used Anniversary's and some Tome-purchased Trade Bars to get the last one (9 out of 9; just need to rebuild the Nascent). Once I have some Trade Bars, I'll take a look because Indriks can no longer be my ticket-dump.
Dragonknight Rework: I don't main a DK, but I have one pure-class DK and like the changes. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Warden rework comes out.
U49 QoL stuff: Pretty good, all in all. I'm a teeny bit grumpy about the 4K crowns I spent on the Year One pack a few years ago, but I got a few years of play out of before the base-game players got it, too, so it's only a teeny bit. Because, well, that's just how it goes sometimes. Account-wide Outfit slots are good. Don't have any, but will probably pick up a couple or three now that it's not per-character. I'm not a fashionista and mostly just set an oufit and forget about it until a character feels like they need a new look. Vampire/Werewolf going free is nice. I had one character lose theirs (unsaved in the Armory system unfortunately) and didn't feel like spending the crowns or pestering another player for a bite, so that character is back to being a leech again. Side-note that after putting a point back into the Blood Ritual ritual passive, I was not able to bite another player (no idea why not - hadn't bitten anyone in months because I couldn't), but was at least able to tell them how to go talk to the nice lady at the Lamae Bal shrine. Had a couple of others get infected in the wild and the Priests of Arkay are AWOL, but the free Crown Store cure worked and I had to manually remove the quest from their journals. Taken as a whole, a lot of very nice improvements. Now if you'd just turn off visual effect on other players mounts and such, that'd be nice.
There are other things going on under the hood, but I think that captures the big ones. Some good, some bad, ... We'll just see how it goes as we move forward.
Communication: 10x better than before. OK, 10x is probably an exaggeration, but still better than it used to be. Many parts of that still need work, but the more frequent livestreams, the efforts being make to keep players up to date on what's happening (and even some of why it's happening) is much appreciated. Many pretty important details were omitted from official descriptions of how some of the newer stuff (Tomes and challenges, for example) would actually operate, so "still needs work."
Production cycle: jury is still out. I understand and generally like the move toward more focused and hopefully more polished content releases going forward. That said, there haven't been (m)any yet. Writhing Wall and the Writhing Fortress were the last "content" releases and the first run of Fortress was, uhmmm... "less than stellar"? I'm not wholly pinning that event on current leadership as those wheels were undoubtedly set in motion much farther back in time, but "flawed execution of an interesting idea" sums up my take. While I'm very happy that console players will not be lagging PC by a couple of weeks at each update, accomplishing that by trimming a week or so off the PTS cycle seems questionable.
Tomes: probably the elephant in the room at present. Some good, some "meh," and some really not-good. The idea of a three-month "catalog" of earnable rewards is interesting and I think the system of unlocking pages by earning the currency used to buy from the catalog has some merit. However, and it's a big "however," players on the free tier are required to earn almost 5K points more than there is stuff to buy and they will lose any unspent points in excess of the 2K carryover. This is essentially 3K-4K points worth of grind with nothing to show for it. The total cost to unlock those last pages should not exceed the cost of everything up to and including those last pages on the free tier and ideally should be somewhat less because there will be stuff in there that players won't want. Premium tier is Premium tier; you pays your money... Bonus? $15 extra for a costume and some Tome points isn't appealing. Even the "Deluxe" versions of the Upgrades and Collections included a unique costume (or outfit), a mount, a non-combat pet, and usually one or two other goodies and that was only a $10 upgrade from standard.
Back to the points, costs, and speaking strictly for myself, I'd need to earn 20K to unlock the two bonus pages (there are some rewards on those that I'd buy), but there are somewhere between 5K and 7K worth of free-tier rewards that I've got no desire or use for. For example, a crate with Exemplary Jewelry will do nothing but occupy inventory space until U50 gets here to let me decon it (all my characters know all traits on all gear) and the same thing with the crate of random Nirnhoned stuff. Alchemy ingredient bag? Puh-leez. My craft bag already floweth over, I give away stuff, and still have more than I'll ever use (I could probably cause at least a temporary market price-dip on Columbine if I were to sell it). Travel Parcel? Everyone's mount is upgraded and I have no use for a Wayshrine Navigation Chart. Adventuring Supply Pack (twice)? Got plenty of that, thank-you-very-much. Crafting upgrade stuff? OK, I'll take the gold mats, but don't really need the rest. If ZOS isn't catching the subtext here, don't make players earn 20K worth of coin, offer them 15K worth of stuff to buy with it (including stuff that they won't want), and then take the coins out of their pockets at the end of the Tome because they have "too many." Exceptionally poor implementation on this front.
Challenges system: The challenges themselves aren't any great shakes; they're essentially endeavors or pursuits with a different name. There is absolutely nothing new there and that's fine, but rerolls need a lot of work. "Reroll" means "I don't want to do that." Why a player doesn't want to do that is completely irrelevant; they don't and that's all there is to it. Any challenge that a player rerolls should be at least temporarily removed from the pool of potential challenges; don't give it back to them on the next reroll. Instead of rerolls, why not something closer to "here's a list of 10 different challenges for the week, but you must remove five"? Same effect, RNG came up with the list, and the player keeps what they prefer rather than reaching back into the bag for another random Scrabble tile.
Gold Coast Bazaar: I'm going to have to admit that I haven't looked at it since PTS. I used the Jester's Trade Bars to snag the last piece of the next-to-last Indrik for my collection, and used Anniversary's and some Tome-purchased Trade Bars to get the last one (9 out of 9; just need to rebuild the Nascent). Once I have some Trade Bars, I'll take a look because Indriks can no longer be my ticket-dump.
Dragonknight Rework: I don't main a DK, but I have one pure-class DK and like the changes. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Warden rework comes out.
U49 QoL stuff: Pretty good, all in all. I'm a teeny bit grumpy about the 4K crowns I spent on the Year One pack a few years ago, but I got a few years of play out of before the base-game players got it, too, so it's only a teeny bit. Because, well, that's just how it goes sometimes. Account-wide Outfit slots are good. Don't have any, but will probably pick up a couple or three now that it's not per-character. I'm not a fashionista and mostly just set an oufit and forget about it until a character feels like they need a new look. Vampire/Werewolf going free is nice. I had one character lose theirs (unsaved in the Armory system unfortunately) and didn't feel like spending the crowns or pestering another player for a bite, so that character is back to being a leech again. Side-note that after putting a point back into the Blood Ritual ritual passive, I was not able to bite another player (no idea why not - hadn't bitten anyone in months because I couldn't), but was at least able to tell them how to go talk to the nice lady at the Lamae Bal shrine. Had a couple of others get infected in the wild and the Priests of Arkay are AWOL, but the free Crown Store cure worked and I had to manually remove the quest from their journals. Taken as a whole, a lot of very nice improvements. Now if you'd just turn off visual effect on other players mounts and such, that'd be nice.
There are other things going on under the hood, but I think that captures the big ones. Some good, some bad, ... We'll just see how it goes as we move forward.
Re: Are The Tome Challenges As Ludicrously Unfair As It Seems?
One of the reasons why I would like the challenge points to be equal, is because of what someone else mentioned: some people who get lucky with high point things they can do will be able to complete the tomes quickly.
But, for the ones who just can't do the high point stuff, or aren't lucky enough to get them, they could have to go up until the wire trying to get the last thing they want from this tome, simply because they only got low value/hard for them tasks.
I am someone who often prefers to get things done quickly, otherwise I forget about them. I don't often want to wait until closer to the end to do them. Now, I do like that we have a long time to do this, but that also works against me. If I go 'well, I will do this later/over time' I can easily lose track of time and end up having to rush/scramble to finish, or I just can't finish in the time I have left.
So, by having the points equalized across challenges, I can choose some challenges that I can do, even if they don't give many points per challenge, and get them done and still earn the same number of points as someone who can do things like trials and arenas, even if it takes me more time to do them per week.
But, for the ones who just can't do the high point stuff, or aren't lucky enough to get them, they could have to go up until the wire trying to get the last thing they want from this tome, simply because they only got low value/hard for them tasks.
I am someone who often prefers to get things done quickly, otherwise I forget about them. I don't often want to wait until closer to the end to do them. Now, I do like that we have a long time to do this, but that also works against me. If I go 'well, I will do this later/over time' I can easily lose track of time and end up having to rush/scramble to finish, or I just can't finish in the time I have left.
So, by having the points equalized across challenges, I can choose some challenges that I can do, even if they don't give many points per challenge, and get them done and still earn the same number of points as someone who can do things like trials and arenas, even if it takes me more time to do them per week.
Re: DK is extremely, ludicrously, overpowered in PvP.
I don’t care. I’ll take this meta over the ludicrous warden charm cheese meta any day.
Being able to play cyrodil without getting charmed every 6 seconds is a blessing
depending on how they do the warden rework, this is very likely to end up coming back lol
Re: I wish that Tomes had a Tutorial because I am confused
Danz_Macabre wrote: »It's just dressed up endeavours and golden pursuits.
I am not sure what the confusion is about?
You had to click on the daily rewards to get them, same thing here.
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You can reroll activities and some give more points than others. I diden't know because i assumed the reroll affected all activities and not one at a time so i diden't use it.
And there is the problem of the tome caches you earn with eso plus that if opened expire at the end of this tome season (there are a lot of threads about this one).
So you can reroll some of the activities? Because I seem not to be able to and thought that was because I had started on some of the first ones. But then again, pressing F4 to get the UI up doesn't work for me either (as stated on a separate reply in the Bug forum).
You can also get the UI up by clicking on the Tomes Icon which is next to the Crown Crates Icon.
If you have re-rolls available(dice on left of screen) hovering over the challenge you wish to re-roll should bring the option up at the bottom right of the screen...... however I've just looked and one I've started obviously wont re-roll BUT of the other four (which I haven't started)only two are giving me the option to re-roll so seems to be pretty bugged/broken atm.
EDIT:- Ok I am walking away from the forums because I just noticed the two that didn't give me the option..... I HAVE completed part of them!!
Re: DK is extremely, ludicrously, overpowered in PvP.
Take off vampire and equip an infused flame resist glyph. Suddenly DK can't do anything to you anymore. There are people out there running full damage with stage 3+ vampire and wondering why DK is so strong.
Estin
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Re: DK is extremely, ludicrously, overpowered in PvP.
Hmm, I can play my Stamsorc just fine in BGs and Cyrodiil still. Also have a DK, its fun, but not as easy as you put it here to be broken with it, you need to know at least a little bit of what you are doing.
Also I have seen a great variety of different DK Builds. My favorite was one that used Cinders of Anthelmir, hadn't seen that before, quite the punch on that proc.
Also I have seen a great variety of different DK Builds. My favorite was one that used Cinders of Anthelmir, hadn't seen that before, quite the punch on that proc.
L_Nici
6
Re: I wish that Tomes had a Tutorial because I am confused
There is a Tutorial of sorts.... just press the ALT key..... it's very basic but I actually found it quite helpful. 
Re: I wish that Tomes had a Tutorial because I am confused
It's just dressed up endeavours and golden pursuits.
I am not sure what the confusion is about?
You had to click on the daily rewards to get them, same thing here.
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I am not sure what the confusion is about?
You had to click on the daily rewards to get them, same thing here.
🤷♀️
Danz_Macabre
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Re: Current Challenge Difficulty Model will penalize Life-tapping Abilities
One way of raising the floor without touching the ceiling would be to add a clause to those abilities, where healing would default to a minimal value if damage is being mitigated too much. E.g., restores X % of the damage done, but at least Y. There are enough reference abilities to determine sensible minima based on the respective player stats.
Setting a minimum healing requirement sounds good, and it would also help certain abilities, such as Dark Magic's Blood Magic. Although this ability is not popular with most players, considering that class mastery and refresh will likely lead to more abilities or sets having similar trigger conditions in the future, setting a minimum healing requirement seems necessary.
