I have 20 characters (all races), its never easy to find the right looks. You will always struggle with things that dont fit.
There are so many cosmetic options in this game that it is just logical that some choices wont go with others.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I don't know how active you are in fandom spaces (not just writing, but just in general talking about games/stories), but there are a LOT of people out there that cannot stand to have anything negative said about their favorite characters, and they dislike it when people like characters they hate.

I'm active in BG3 communities, and I see this a lot there. People really take those characters quite seriously, to the point where one girl claimed she changed her IRL name to "Astarion" and had close to breakdowns over disagreements over that character.

Fortunately I haven't run into that for ESO characters. If it has, I am completely unaware of it. The most heated discussions I have had over ESO is usually about people feeling very strongly about Jakarn. But that is still a far cry over what I see in other fandoms.

Major_Mangle wrote: »

Remove offensive AoE caps and I can guarantee you that the ballgroups you claim gets clapped will wreck havoc in Vengeance.

LMAO "offensive AoE caps"? Tell us you run in a human centipede in Gray Host without telling us you're a ball grouper. See? The highly vocal minority who thinks their silly niche play style actually takes skill.

Greyhost is popular because of the Network Effect. Because it's popular, people would rather wait 1+ hr in queue than go into Blackreach for quicker drop in. People pick the campaign their friends are playing in. ZOS could easily make Vengeance the dominant mode by offering more social opportunities, titles, alliance-lock and balancing, announcing intent to actively develop Vengeance, and incentives that are only achieved through Vengeance, and just ignore Greyhost and let people run however they want, letting it go the wayside. Once enough people convert to Vengeance, people will follow along like the social creatures they are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

(and sticking with the they/them, perhaps have tan slowly open up over the course of the quests that they prefer they/them, instead of expecting everyone to immediately know that Tan uses they/them upon first meeting. That way there would be an organic way of everyone realizing that they should use they/them and make it part of the world, instead of it just being another 'we can't misgender this character, even though it would be lore accurate to do so!!!)

Or, if they want to make a story about that topic, they could come up something more interesting: Making a Tamriel-specific narration about people who think of themselves as neither male nor female, how that shows in that fictional world, or what Tamrielic beliefs that self-image could built upon, how they live, speak, how people treat them in Tamriel - instead of giving us a boring copy of how things are 21st century USA. People who perceived themselves, or were perceived by their culture, as neither man nor woman, have existed in many different eras and cultures in the real world, after all, with very different ways they saw themselves, very different ways how their cultures treated them, how they explained their self-image, etc. So why that horribly boring limitation, why does it needs to look like the current Western real world (including the very same way of speaking about it, the way pronouns are used, etc), in a story taking place in Tamriel? It makes it feel like the story lacks imagination.

It's a fantasy world, everything was possible! So if they choose to make that a topic, I want to see a story about it that's plausible for Tamriel. Take one of Tamriel's societies with strict gender roles, for example, and make the story about a member of that culture who struggles with the expectations because they feel they belong to neither. Or what's, for example, if the Hist demands an Argonian to change their sex (which is possible according to lore), but that Argonian doesn't really want that because they strongly relate to the one they've lived with before? Of how would Dunmer parents react to their child being born intersex - considering one of their main deities is depicted as such in their religious writings and Temple doctrine? Could that kid be seen as a positive miracle by religious Dunmer, and perhaps have a career as a high-ranked Temple priest? They could even make some specific Tribunal Temple lore about that. And honestly, I think no one would mind that (except for some people who complain about almost everything) - because it would absolutely fit that world and contribute organically to the existing lore.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

I also don't mind having people who aren't 'shining examples of their race', because I do think it is interesting to see what is learned behavior and what is inherant to the race.

I, personally, believe that almost everything is cultural and learnt behavior. Anyway, of course they can show us characters who go against their culture's traditions. That's not unrealistic. But it becomes weird if a character really is the opposite of everything that's common in their culture. Well, maybe even that would work - once. But we see too many companion characters who are untypical, which at some point also gets boring.

JemadarofCaerSalis wrote: »

But, as Syldras knows, I also want a Male Altmer Scholar, young, sort of awkward with dealing with people, shyish, but growing confident as the quests go along.

I personally would also take a slightly older and morally grey one, but an Altmer scholar really would be the thing I'd like to see. Also, not a quirky joke, but someone intelligent and more serious.

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

If a community doesn't like beer, you don't try and make beer for people who hate beer, you just make it how the people that do like it, want it. Its so basic its painful.

There is a huge silent majority who don't participate in the forums because they either don't know they exist or don't know how to make an account and log in to participate.

In this silent majority are tons of players who queue for Zerg Host because that was literally the first campaign presented to them and they don't even understand the difference between GH, BR & RW. Don't believe me? Go ask tons of them. They queue for GH because that's the only camp they've ever been in.

Beyond that, certain AD guilds just went and ruined BR & RW by night capping everything and then mega-zerg Agony bombing everyone from both other factions, running the map, gating both other factions, and then sweating down anyone who tries to take anything at all on the map, even just a resource.

Two people in big guilds in particular did this on AD in Ravenwatch and ruined that camp for everyone. Then they and their Agony bomb zerg moved to Blackreach and did the same in that camp. Go look at both camps, they're nearly totally yellow all the time and people go in there, see the map all yellow and then just leave. You have a pack of 4-5 DKs doing it right now, sweating down anyone who tries to take anything in Blackreach and Ravenwatch. It's no fun.

What's funny is none of those people will show up in Vengeance because without the meta to hang onto desperately, they get clapped over & over in Vengeance. Same with ball groups. None of them go into Vengeance either because their silly playstyle doesn't work when everyone literally has the same health, the same armor, the same stats and the same type of abilities.

Everyone who cries about Vengeance is nothing but the vocal minority who gets clapped there over & over.

If you don't like Vengeance then don't go into it. Simple. But right now Vengeance is a better queue-waiting alternative to getting sweated down in Blackreach and Ravenwatch by those hugging the DK meta like its their fantasy anime girlfriend.

SneaK wrote: »

aetherix8 wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Hi ZOS,

Stop doing this, the majority of your PvP base does not want this washed game mode. We don’t want to contribute anything to your “testing” because we are against it. Frankly, it’s a waste of time. With all the good that’s being done recently in the studio this is the remaining outlier of a team clinging to one last bad decision. It feels like we’re just being reminded to stay skeptical of the PvP dev team’s vacuum decision making philosophy.


*edit*
Can we test PvE Vengeance on April 20th too?

Basically, your best option is to participate as early as it goes live, and spam dmg aoes en masse.
If all PvPers and their grannies show up and help testing whether the cap of 6 will or will not melt down the servers, we might be done with that test in a couple of days.
Boycotts are pointless now, Vengeance will go live, so if you want to have GH back faster then help test this change.
Not to mention that this test is perhaps the most important - in a megazerg environment such as Vengeance we need bombing more than ever, and a cap of 3 on dmg aoe is ridiculous beyond belief.

Ah yes, that’s right…. Hancho always has a reason or incentive for us to play Vengeance, in this case it’s so we can get GH back faster lol. What a joke. No thanks, hope they limit your AoEs to one person and yall can enjoy those Megabanger battles you mentioned at 61fps.

You can show your bad faith all you want, but the point stands: whining about a one-week test is pathetic when there is a practical solution to shorten its duration.