Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

DrMedBorn wrote: »

you can just go to cp/non cp IC... and I hope they will fix this oversight soon

Hopefully they fix that and other oversights soon.

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Imperial City is a lot of fun if you treat it like a PvP zone with some PvE sprinkled in between fights. Using it solely to farm Tel Var to sell Hakeijo to players for Gold sounds incredibly drab.

I haven't played a ganker in a long time (and I dislike being ganked) but I never enter the Imperial City unprepared for a fight. The journey back to the base is a part of the experience that was lost for so long.

That's what the zone is supposed to be. However, with the workarounds and exploits the pve crowd treated it as a free loot pinata farm zone and now are angry that it's finally being fixed. They never got used to pvping like they should have.

in an alternate reality imperial city is flooded with players farming zone bosses and players for thousands of tel var. in this reality it’s just you running around on your own.

To sum up:
~20K TP - Number of Tome Points needed to unlock all known 12 pages of the Free Tome
~16K TP - Total of Tome Points you can possibly spend on the Free Tome.
=
4K wasted.

If you don't spend all 16K TP that you earned, everything you could have afforded but didn't buy on your unlocked pages will be bought for you, and dumped in your inventory.

If you opened your 2K / cache points, and you end up earning 20K TP on your Challenges, you lose all the TP you bought using Real World money with your ESO+ subscription.

Anything up to 2K TP, regardless of their source, gets moved on to Season 1. The rest is lost.

Is that accurate?

This does not make sense.

I groaned upon seeing this challenge.

Why couldn't it have just been "Kill 1000 foes" which is already some playtime. Why do we have to mindlessly be funneled into those 3 areas? It being overland only is salt in the wound.

What a waste of time. I know we don't have to engage with tomes, but since this is mostly what we are getting this year....

I'm just annoyed and ranting.

Yeah, they're still dropping.

PoveusRonin wrote: »

I didn't see this challenge this morning. Reading the description, I would assume it wants you to kill foes in the 3 zones. Public dungeons, delves, etc are all technically separate zones. Yes the entrance may be in the particular zone but they are probably counting as a different zone for the challenge.

For everything in game dungeons, trials, arenas, public dungeons, etc in a zone count as a subzone of that zone. They counted for prior endeavors/challenges, they count for a chance at overland loot drops, leads, etc. Them not counting for this challenge is either a bug or a really crummy change, especially since it does not specify that they are meant to be excluded. If they're meant to be excluded, they need to at least say does not include subzones.

Deserrick wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

What do either of those points even have to do with Overland content anyway? They have to be trolling considering those matters are completely off topic.

I don't agree with them even a little bit, but I personally think the user has made it clear at this point that they think the devs should take actions to reduce/eliminate farming in overland content. I suspect those suggestions are about ways to achieve that. I personally think farming mobs is a normal part of the MMO experience. And obviously with current drop rates of rare items from overland content, the devs have stuff that takes the opposite approach. So, like I said, I don't agree at all. I just think from past interactions that's probably why they made those suggestions.

Technically, this thread is for all overland suggestions and not just difficulty. That said, I don't see the devs eliminating farming in overland anytime soon. Nor do I think they should. I personally feel like it's a standard part of the MMO experience and a MMO with nothing to farm in the overland would be like a fps with no sniper rifles.

It's not farming itself that is the issue, but the fact that other players can strip the field bare of anything for them to farm.

"a MMO with nothing to farm in the overland would be like a fps with no sniper rifles." is a great illustration of how the game experience is for them and other newer or otherwise non-optimized players; a not insignificant chunk of the game is effectively removed from them. If the lack of sniper rifles in the hypothetical FPS is because some players keep grabbing them as soon as they spawn, that can be solved by instancing the sniper rifles. Likewise, the lack of materials and enemies caused by other players grabbing/killing them as they spawn in can be solved by instancing the resources and enemies.

Is this actually an issue? A stripped bare zone? Not something I've seen in 10 years of ESO or 20 plus years playing MMOs.

I distinctly remember there being a fuss about this when something like this came up for a weekly Endeavor (or was it a Golden Pursuit)?

There are three major problems here:

First, and most importantly: The overland restriction is horrible, since the last time you did this, it basically depopulated those zones of enemies and people were complaining about not being able to find enemies to kill. It makes no sense to exclude instanced content within those zones, esp. private instanced content like dungeons or arenas where players would not be competing for kills with other players (this could've been a good excuse to run vMA a few times, except that doesn't work). Right now, it forces players to compete against one another for kills, and that's incredibly frustrating.

Second: At least with Endeavors or Golden Pursuits, you can choose to do an alternative objective. Or with weekly challenges, you can reroll them. But this one? There's no reroll, no alternative options.

Finally: Why is it kill 1000, claim 1x, instead of kill 100, claim 10x? I thought that the whole point of the multi-claim system is to give people gradual progress instead of large unwieldy lump-sum all-or-nothing affairs?

And my burning question, @ZOS_Kevin, did anyone at ZOS play-test this challenge? Or read any of the player feedback the last time you had this as an Endeavor? Because it sure as hell sounds like the answer is no.

I couldn't resist mainly for one thing - Witcher vibes are strong in this one:



...But also for many more good things the game itself provides Even after some nerfs and changes I dislike, the amount of fun is huge
Just today I've returned to one old place I haven't visited in years... Some cute khajiit NPCs were placed so nicely, that my khajiit had to join as well. Her fancy outfit didn't match her fierce look, which was hilarious:



Also, if Charles who had one really heart-warming interaction with me today sees this post maybe, thank you

p.s.
I took these on PTS, in case someone wants to know how Premium+ bonus costume dyes. My favorite combo doesn't really work with permanent blue gems:




Much better color combo:
I wish gems were 4th dye channel

Yeah, I'm not watching 3 hours of streaming so it's a hard pass for me. That does not incentivize me to watch stuff.