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Re: PTS Update 48 – Feedback Thread for Combat Animation Memory Reduction
@Ragnarock41 Nice catch.
Epic: "It's good we have the Polymorphs with the old animations to properly compare because I seem to parse better without the new changes."
ZOS: "Don't worry, we'll get rid of that."
Epic: "It's good we have the Polymorphs with the old animations to properly compare because I seem to parse better without the new changes."
ZOS: "Don't worry, we'll get rid of that."
MashmalloMan
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Re: Vengeance has officially ended the THREE BANNERS WAR
One has to set vengeance as home campaign to be on the leaderboard. I don't think many does that. I haven't so I'm not on the leaderboard.
MissNoir
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Re: Vengeance and population
ToddIngram wrote: »There wasnt a queue because Vengeance has 3 times the capacity of GreyHost and would barely reach 3 bars when it has same number of players than GreyHost with 50 queue.ToddIngram wrote: »StihlReign wrote: »edward_frigidhands wrote: »
You can tell yourself that its not that many people and they will accept a different version of the game that has all the things you dont like disabled and everyone will just accept it. But you know thats not true and the developers do too.
Think what you wish. You can tell yourself everyone wants to play Grey Host while the zone's population continues to drop until you're the last one left. Play the test. Contribute to the data, or don't.
Grey Host live has a more stable and higher population than vengeance has. There wasn't even a queue last night during prime time on a weekend. There would have been a queue of at least 50 if it weren't for vengeance.
You don't know that. It's an assumption on your part.
Sure I have Source: It was stated by ZOS.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/675548
ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »
- We were able to hit triple the amount of players that is currently possible in a single Cyrodiil campaign.
- We had three times the number of players in a single Cyrodiil campaign with little to no performance problems.
Iriidius
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Re: Vengeance and population
From the yesterday's (Friday) evening.
This is all fake news, right? It can't be real?
According to some forum members here, server has 80 pop cap, no?
120+ AD players at siege.
80+ AD players at castle defense.
110+ AD players at castle defense.
This is all fake news, right? It can't be real?
According to some forum members here, server has 80 pop cap, no?
120+ AD players at siege.
80+ AD players at castle defense.
110+ AD players at castle defense.
exiars10
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Re: Vengeance is Dead.
acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »acastanza_ESO wrote: »Primetime on PC NA: Three bars of EP to nothing else. EP at 2-3x AD or DC (combined) pop.
The campaign has zero functional ability to counter superior numbers, so faction stacking every keep always wins.
Then literally gate camping the campaign to death when there's nothing else left.
This has to be the most embarrassing gameplay I've ever seen and it is direct result of Vengeance being an unmitigated failure of game balance.
Speedrunning the Ravenwatch death spiral. GG.
To be fair, it would be exactly the same on live. Sure, a duo would be able to troll around a tower against some random pugs but if fifty people showed up with concerted effort, they'd still be run right over. Keep defenses or offenses would be impossible as well. We had exactly this situation when New World came out for something like, three months IIRC.
Nah. This is exactly the situation that a ballgroup would be able to break on live.
Break? Or LoS, run away from, and heal stack to stall the inevitable for thirty minutes or so?
Break.
The problem is that EP was massively zerg pushing AD and DC gates and gate camping with overwhelming numbers that would not unstack and responded with force to literally anything lighting. This literally killed the campaign because there wasn't anything anyone could do about it. There were zero mechanical counters to the toxic behavior. incentivizing exactly that "winning" toxic behavior.
A ballgroup that they can't kill, but absolutely could take keeps/scrolls and force that zerg onto the defensive could've pulled EP anywhere else allowing the less coordinated groups to actually fight back against the people that were left and break the gate camp.
If you can't see that then you're part of the problem.
That all requires more mechanics in play than just a ballgroup. And if those mechanics *were* in play you wouldn't need a ballgroup to do it. As it is, you can ballgroup on Vengeance as is and still do pretty well - assuming your only incentive is to collect AP, which is the only campaign mechanic in play currently.
"ballgroup on Vengeance as is and still do pretty well" LMAO
This is abject nonsense, you CAN NOT ballgroup in Vengeance and you saying that proves to me you don't actually have even the faintest idea what a ballgroup is, does, or how it works, at all.
Re: Vengeance and population
edward_frigidhands wrote: »
You can tell yourself that its not that many people and they will accept a different version of the game that has all the things you dont like disabled and everyone will just accept it. But you know thats not true and the developers do too.
Think what you wish. You can tell yourself everyone wants to play Grey Host while the zone's population continues to drop until you're the last one left. Play the test. Contribute to the data, or don't.
Re: There is someone selling other peoples house builds for tens and hundreds of millions of gold.
As someone who spends a LOT of time and effort on my builds I have a hard time understanding WHY someone would want an exact replica of someone ELSES house. Each is a personal interpretation of a theme/concept I'm "feeling" at the time. Why even have a house if it doesn't have your personal touch to it, much less pay a fortune for it? Boggles the mind.
Lumenn
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Re: Vengeance and population
edward_frigidhands wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »edward_frigidhands wrote: »
The numbers are not shown anywhere. We only have access to pieced together info. Zos doesn't show us numbers because they likely don't want competitors offering better experiences during a low patch.
Zos early on stated 1800 players per server back in the beta days. This is still on an FAQ on their website.
Zos claims veng can do 3x live stable shown in their data stream. They tried 4x live on EU, but it became unstable.
From Cyr tracking addons we see live pvp is in the ballpark of 300 players total. The same addons read around 1100-1300 at one point during the first test on EU. The addon owner was in one of the other threads to explain the several methods it uses to collect IDs for counting.
So basically we do not have access to this information that everyone keeps claiming we do.
We have guesswork gleaned from unreliable claims and add-ons.
We have data from pretty reliable addons.
We know the addons that are tracking # of players are pretty accurate from testing - it's fairly easy to confirm player counts in an IC district and check that with the addon.
It's not like the number of 300 for live is just total guesswork. It's a fairly accurate number based on data from addons and backed up by the information that ZOS has given us. Acting like it's useless is just being intentionally dismissive for no reason.
Re: Vengeance and population
Dead game on PC EU 19.30 - and it's not even prime time.
Your premise is flawed. The two bars in Vengeance are about 200 players per alliance; whereas pop-locked in normal Live is about 80 players per alliance.
Re: [Housing] WHY are the Sunport Interior Structural Furnishings SO BAD?
valenwood_vegan wrote: »we get an incomplete jumble of structural items that don't fit well with each other
ESO should have Twitch streams where Gina tries making a simple log cabin or wooden cottage from scratch.
It must have a roof and large windows we can see out through.
Then devs will understand why players need more than 700 item limit. It's because we have to mishmash walls, create our own open-air windows, and... roofs. Let's not get started on how painful it is to put together a roof without proper roof corner pieces, etc.
Ruj
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