I've played PVP more than any other content the past year+ and I can tell you that vengeance was a breath of fresh air. Massive fights with 150+ participants without performance issues, no pulls and bombs constantly blowing you up (and yes, I know how to block, but if someone gets blown up next to you, you are going to die from VD), seige played a critical role in almost every large battle. It was a ton of fun. And this is coming from someone who thought I would hate it going into it.

With that said, I understand the concern about the population basically being event driven, but the same can be said even of MYM, where population always starts really high and then it tapers off. That is the hazard of catering to the casuals, which Vengeance arguably does because you're basically on the same playing field as everyone else in terms of builds, skills, etc. Casuals come and play when it benefits them and they leave to play something else as soon as something else catches their eye. That's just how it is. But even towards the end of Vengeance, I was able to get into some massive fights that were so much fun to play. I think it was the last day of Vengeance when my blues defended Ash against a massive host of reds AND yellows and we got a 250k+ D-Tick during that fight. It was just plain awesome!

One thing that I would like them to take a look at is how they calculate awarding alliance points though. Sometimes it IS disappointing to fight for a an objective for over a half hour just to see such a small tick pop. I don't know how it happens, you'll see LOTS of combatants, lots of kills on both sides, lots of siege damage, but barely any alliance points - how?! We should be getting rewards for burning seige, damage to walls/doors, they should stop curbing AP gain for repeatedly killing the same parties, etc. A big fight deserves a big tick.

hey, maybe play an actual PvP game, and then you'll see that roles exist, its the core fundamental in a 4 v 4 game, understand the difference between BATTLE ROYAL lmao , IM SICK AND TIRED OF GETTING NO HEALER, TEAMED UP WITH THE LOWEST CP IMAGINABLE, LMAO IM DEALING A MILLION DAMAGE FOR NOTHING, AND WHY DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANT CONTROL PEOPLE LEAVING SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO LOSE OUR MMR BECAUSE OF YOUR FLAWED DESIGN? OH HE/SHE IS SICK OF BG AND WANTS TO LEAVE? SURE YOU'RE WHOLE TEAM WILL ALSO LOSE MMR, WHAT KIND OF GAME DOES THAT LMFAO

IS IT THAT HARD TO MAKE THE GAME FUN? I DONT MIND LOSING , BUT LOSING BECAUSE OF THE TEAM DRAFT SCREAMS FAKE PVP , THIS IS THE MOST ANNOYING MODE I HAVE EVER SEEN NO WONDER ITS UNPOPULAR. NOT GETTING ANY RECOGNITION , THE REWARDS FOR LOSING AND WINNING NEEDS TO INCREASE GOD WHAT AJOKE

Bokila wrote: »

So quick update on my situation after i bought an xbox just to access my account and stuff i paid real money for.
PVP is completely dead. Max 10 players running around on each alliance and tops at around max 50 players per alliance in peak times.
This game definitely needs crossplay and cross save.
And about the lack of addons that many people specified on this thread, well, addons are now on xbox too.
Someone said that it would not be fair because of the performance difference between console and pc but if that would be a concern for zos they would not allow xbox one (which runs at 30fps) to play with xbox series players (60fps). You might argue that pc players can achieve over 120fps easly but the jump from 30 to 60 is more noticeable than 60 to 120.

I feel you, on PS EU its quite the same, thought not as bad like we have 2bars each in prime time, sometimes 3 bars.

After vengeance we were down to 1 bar each for a bit but then mayhem brought a bit of life into it again.

Anyway, this is from yesterday



So there might be hope and i wish for us that they dont need to much time for it 👍

shadoza wrote: »

Did I catch everything?

You missed the biggest point: random groups are random. Do not expect one specific way when grouping up with strangers. You cannot make a general rule one way or another when no rules are established beforehand.

shadoza wrote: »

1. There is a game feature that allows players to play moderator and kick another player from a dungeon run.

Which is a good thing. If someone is offline, refuses to play or otherwise makes everyone else's experience worse, players can democratically vote to kick the problem player as long as the vote is unanimous.

Since a PUG consists of strangers, it is always possible that some players want to exploit it. The only way to avoid people behaving in ways you don't like is to play single player games.

shadoza wrote: »

2. There is a need to study/learn from 3rd party sources on mechanics of a dungeon before one is allowed to run that dungeon.

I have been doing new dungeons as blind run for quite some time now. That is part of the fun, not knowing what is ahead and trying to figure out the mechanics. But I organise it with my guild beforehand. Often well before the dungeon is even released.

If you go with random players, their goals may not align with yours so it might be they expect you to already know the mechanics. That's why guilds exist. That's why they added the group finder. And of course, that's why 3rd party tools like Discord servers exist.

If you go with random people, expect random. You cannot force your way of playing on them. They cannot force it on you.

shadoza wrote: »

3. There is a DPS restriction on dungeons (Is there also Heal and Tank restrictions?)

Some dungeons have DPS checks. Others have heal checks. And many are quite demanding on the tank in higher difficulties. And yet some can be completed using only light attacks.

Often high dps allows you to skip mechanics.

shadoza wrote: »

4. Players must share their builds or DPS before being allowed, by other players, to run a dungeon.

This is more applicable for veteran trials to ensure a smooth run. If a normal trial does that, the trial lead is taking the game a bit too seriously.

If you don't want to bother with optimisation, join a learning trial instead of a perfected gear farm run or HM run. Let those who want to optimise optimise.

shadoza wrote: »

5. Player can be required to engage with third party services before being allowed to run a dungeon.

Huh? Never had that with pugs. But I do see some raid leads asking to join Discord for a vet trial run, although that is rare.

shadoza wrote: »

6. The majority of the dungeon is ignored so the bosses can be 'farmed.'

Sometimes, depending on who is grouped with you. Did I mention that random groups are random? This starts to sound like you don't actually have a problem with the game, but with players. Not everyone plays like you want them to.

shadoza wrote: »

7. One must join guilds in order to avoid being kicked or bullied in a PUG

I'm sorry, where did you get that from? A guild may reduce the need to run with PUGs but if you are in a guild and run with PUGs, the random group is still random and has nothing to do with you being in a guild.

shadoza wrote: »

M is Multiplayer but not Groups. MMO is a large map for multiple players. Nothing in those letter suggest that those players must play in a group.

It's the "group" in "group dungeon".

shadoza wrote: »

How can a player NOT go into a dungeon ignorant of the mechanics if the game does not provide training on those mechanics?

Easy. Learn it beforehand. If you are absolutely against all the helpful tools people have created: the guilds, the youtube tutorials, the written tutorials, and everything else, you still have one more tool ZOS has provided: the group finder.

There is absolutely nothing stopping you from creating your own group there where the goal of the run is clearly indicated. You don't even need to join a guild or any discord server.

shadoza wrote: »

No game should expect their players to go to a third party website to learn how to play their game.

This one doesn't either. Those are extra tools people can use. Some players may demand that but then you can decide if you want to oblige or not. It's up to you.

shadoza wrote: »

If the mechanics are going to be that prominent in the dungeon perhaps the dungeons need a first-run tutorial that explains the mechanics.

Since time immemorial the dungeons have had a mini-tutorial showing the main mechanic of the boss just before the boss.

But there is now the group finder. You can make your listing looking for people willing to learn with you. Typically the term is "blind run" if you want people who have not been there before and have not read about the dungeon anywhere.

Sorry but all of this sounds like you want the benefits of a guild run tailored to your specific needs without actually using any of the tools either in-game or 3rd party. You have to remember you are playing a multiplayer game. Other players are not NPCs. They have their own goals and that's why if you don't want a random experience, you need to cooperate and communicate beforehand.

KwamaEggMine wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

Has anyone gotten the following?

Praxis: Tide-Born Sculpture, Coral
Design: Tide-Born Floor Lamp, Coral

I have opened around 120 now and I haven't found any furnishing plans, the most notable thing I got was a seahorse furnishing.

Thing is, I can't find any listings whatsoever for those two plans either.

The only one I can see listings for is:

Praxis: Tide-Born Sculpture, Turtle

I still have not found it myself. The only one I could find was Tide-Born Sculpture, Coral. However, I found Tide-Born Floor Lamp, Coral for sale at the Guildstore the other day and rushed out to buy it. I was a little relieved at that moment. Because I could actually get the purple plan and it was a moment of certainty that it existed.

However, I have not found Tide-Born Sculpture, Turtle yet, so I have still been fishing.

At least I know that they can drop, thanks

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Provided they change the name based on account creation date (oldest account keeps their names) it would be fine.

But what if you have Account A on PC that has "Razum-dar," who started playing in April 2014 and played for a single week before never touching the game again. And then Account B on XB made their "Razum-dar" in June 2015 and has played that character every single day since doing hardcore RP?

By creation date? A wins, and the hardcore RPer is out the name they actually use. Because someone who doesn't even play has a claim on that name.

There needs to be a better solution than just 'creation date;' probably more like 'account loyalty' or something. Or, you know, just divorce character name from the identity in the first place and allow everyone to have their own "Razum-dar."

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MISTFORMBZZZ wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

amig186 wrote: »

Not a biggie, I've played enough MMOs to be used to getting around this. An extra letter here, an accent there.

I can't do that. It just doesn't feel like the same name in my mind if I can't spell it the "right" way.

Not being rude but so whats the solution for you?
Just not bring a feature a lot of people want because of there might be a icon next to the name or a ‘ next to your name would bother you?

The solution is for ZOS to consider that there are players for whom the character name is incredibly important, and not just dismiss a portion of their playerbase as 'irrelevant.'
...like they did with Subclassing. And Account-wide Achievements.

There are solutions that would allow players to keep the names they had - unaltered - by just having the account name be the main form of communication. ZOS just needs to not take the 'easy solution' of just merging the servers all into one, which would by definition need all character names to be unique.

But zos has not stated ANYTHING like that at all. Nobody knows yet how crossplay will look, if its just gonna be EU & NA being merged , only consoles or anything else. Nobody knows anything yet but still we are here discussing about what we are calling unlayed eggs.

I personally trust the company enough, to believe they have these things in their mind and belive they have much harder problems to solve, before crossplay goes live, if it goes live.

If you haven't already done so please check this thread out, ZoS Kevin took the time to answer some questions about recent Battleground changes and responded to a few players questions as well.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/682460/what-is-the-point-of-having-patch-notes-if-massive-changes-go-undocumented#latest