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Re: ESO Leadership Roundtable Discussion
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Thanks for the thoughts, all. They really are a great bunch and we're excited for you to get to know them more. To give a little more context about why we kicked things off with a written letter instead of a livestream or video, it really comes down to timing. This announcement and subsequent interviews are happening during (and at) gamescom this week. We wanted to get something a little more personal out to you - some messages just for you - ahead of those interviews.
I appreciate the context and effort that went into getting this together. Posts like this highlight the difference in how you guys see things and how we do. I'm a bit surprised that you guys chose to address us this way though. To put it plainly, every leadership letter has the same criticisms yet the format you guys use stays the same. You guys are telling us everything is ok, we're largely you telling it isn't. That's a big disconnect.
In terms of having "some messages just for you" - I think having them post things themselves would better accomplish that. One of the longest standing complaints about community management is that most communication occurs through the CMs. People have continued to express that we want more candid communication and just normal engagement, like actual devs posting here. I don't get why it has to be this whole process.
Lastly, it's no secret that Rich and the community had a strained relationship. We can't just pretend like that wasn't a thing; a lot of those interactions still get brought up and that history influences how people receive leadership communication. Having Nick present here would help cement his legacy and ultimately ameliorate that.
Destai
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Re: ESO Leadership Roundtable Discussion
stop making people completely have to revamp their builds every 3 months, bring back jabs, boom - game is gold for 50 more years.
Re: Crown Store Item Wish List
Too add to the list of wishes for the style parlor:
Naturally colored versions of these hairstyles:
- High Elven Instigator (Tanlorins Hairstyle but minus the violet streaks)
- High Hrothgar Braid (With the red streaks removed and the hair sticking to the chosen haircolor of the player model instead of greying it out)
Hairstyles in general:
- Roostertail Frills! - This year we're focusing on argonians and a separate clan of altmer and yet, this hairstyle didn't return once. Please bring it back.
- Hairstyles for natural frizzy hair that we can give our redguards f.e.
- More open and/or long hairstyles using the textures of Brassy Assassin, which remain unmatched in beauty to this day
Face markings:
- Tanlorins Purple eyes as traditional face markings for all races (Just for the color alone)
- Magister Frideljas dark circled eyes
- More traditionally applied eyeshadow variants. We've had a great long run with the excentric stuff, but sometimes less can be more. And we lack in that departement.
- More differently colored variants of 1) Anequina Oasis Eyes, for slitted pupils and 2) Eyes of the Xivilai (For round pupils).
Body Markings:
- More asymmetrical tattoos
- More body markings resembling physical conditions
- Decorative scarring - Big fan of the Shattered Mirror Mace set. Would love to see more of that. Especially if it adapts to the characters skin color and doesn't stay piglet pink on a dark redguard, dunmer or orc. So it can look healed and 'fancy'.
Skins:
- The Blackmarrow Necromancer Skin with the blue markings removed but the make up remaining intact. Every player whose character is supposed to be unnaturally pale is waiting for this. And every vampire whose strain doesn't make them look like Darth Sidius when well fed requires it to be designed accurately without giving up the curse.
- Maormer skin. That's it. They got more motifs than bosmer and their own furnishing pack. If there's no way for you to implement yet another playable race, that's totally fine. But please give people the skin that adds not only the color, but also changes the eyes to these milky-white-blueish lenses and adds the fin design to their ears. Pretty please.
- More recolors of the Scaly Sun Basker skin and the Xoleel skin. The resolution of these is a really pretty upgrade to the vanilla game argonian skins, the patterns are pleasant to look at and if you'd even go as far as to add nostrils to the Scaly Sun Basker, that'd be an absolute dream.
Facial Hair:
- Please add some new beards for our fellas. They need some love.
- More differently colored variants of the Dragonfly Wing Lashes. The color is strong, but not over the top. It's nicely distributed, the fake lashes aren't too much either. Therefore I'd really like to see more of that in different colors.
- More horn variants for bosmer characters
- Fluffy tail tufts for khajiit and tail spikes and fins for argonians
Thanks for reading, that'd be all that I can think of for the style parlor for now. Apart from a rework of it's categories in the collection but that topic got threads all over the forums already.
Naturally colored versions of these hairstyles:
- High Elven Instigator (Tanlorins Hairstyle but minus the violet streaks)
- High Hrothgar Braid (With the red streaks removed and the hair sticking to the chosen haircolor of the player model instead of greying it out)
Hairstyles in general:
- Roostertail Frills! - This year we're focusing on argonians and a separate clan of altmer and yet, this hairstyle didn't return once. Please bring it back.
- Hairstyles for natural frizzy hair that we can give our redguards f.e.
- More open and/or long hairstyles using the textures of Brassy Assassin, which remain unmatched in beauty to this day
Face markings:
- Tanlorins Purple eyes as traditional face markings for all races (Just for the color alone)
- Magister Frideljas dark circled eyes
- More traditionally applied eyeshadow variants. We've had a great long run with the excentric stuff, but sometimes less can be more. And we lack in that departement.
- More differently colored variants of 1) Anequina Oasis Eyes, for slitted pupils and 2) Eyes of the Xivilai (For round pupils).
Body Markings:
- More asymmetrical tattoos
- More body markings resembling physical conditions
- Decorative scarring - Big fan of the Shattered Mirror Mace set. Would love to see more of that. Especially if it adapts to the characters skin color and doesn't stay piglet pink on a dark redguard, dunmer or orc. So it can look healed and 'fancy'.
Skins:
- The Blackmarrow Necromancer Skin with the blue markings removed but the make up remaining intact. Every player whose character is supposed to be unnaturally pale is waiting for this. And every vampire whose strain doesn't make them look like Darth Sidius when well fed requires it to be designed accurately without giving up the curse.
- Maormer skin. That's it. They got more motifs than bosmer and their own furnishing pack. If there's no way for you to implement yet another playable race, that's totally fine. But please give people the skin that adds not only the color, but also changes the eyes to these milky-white-blueish lenses and adds the fin design to their ears. Pretty please.
- More recolors of the Scaly Sun Basker skin and the Xoleel skin. The resolution of these is a really pretty upgrade to the vanilla game argonian skins, the patterns are pleasant to look at and if you'd even go as far as to add nostrils to the Scaly Sun Basker, that'd be an absolute dream.
Facial Hair:
- Please add some new beards for our fellas. They need some love.
- More differently colored variants of the Dragonfly Wing Lashes. The color is strong, but not over the top. It's nicely distributed, the fake lashes aren't too much either. Therefore I'd really like to see more of that in different colors.
- More horn variants for bosmer characters
- Fluffy tail tufts for khajiit and tail spikes and fins for argonians
Thanks for reading, that'd be all that I can think of for the style parlor for now. Apart from a rework of it's categories in the collection but that topic got threads all over the forums already.
Re: an existential crisis mmorpg-ish
Don't listen to that Ascended Sleeper. You'll come dangerously close to joining the Dwemer.
Re: an existential crisis mmorpg-ish
You are not a bot. All of this is my dream, and you are all simply figments of my imagination.
if you lay off those shrooms it =might go better for us all then?
Re: Vengeance Test 3 Request
MorallyBipolar wrote: »Vengeance had more players in queue the first few days than Grey Host, Blackreach and Ravenwatch together in Cyrodiil so it would get full even without closing GreyHost especially when most vengeance haters rather not play than Vengeance like they say all the time.
Vengeance haters as you call them, the most unreasonable players. It's been ages since PvPers have complained about lag, and the general state of abandonment of the PvP realm by devs. But the moment the devs decide to seriously engage with improving this aspect of their game, some players complain more and refuse to participate in testing things. This is by far the worst moment to desert. Players who have concerns about the future PvP in ESO should participate and give their feedback so they can voice their concerns and ideas, and maybe have an impact on the future shape of their favorite game.
Vengeance isn't PvP in the traditional sense. It's more like templated PvE with other players.
People are not making the connection of how vengeance mode decouples PvP from the need to do any PvE in the game. Vengeance will be one of the last changes ZOS makes before shutting down ESO if it becomes mandated.
The tidal back and forth between Keeps with swarms of players certainly felt like PvP to me.
I like theorycrafting and am torn between which I like better, but base Cyro PvP is so much more like PvSetvP with coordinated groups, especially with shared set effects.
(Also sustain sets are "proc" sets giving free damage/actions when you would have otherwise been out of resources.)
Re: Vengeance Test 3 Request
MorallyBipolar wrote: »
I like theory crafting builds. MY BUILDS...that I come up with.
Vengeance takes away the many MANY builds I bring to the fight by "dumbing down" PVP to the lowest common denominator.
I've said it many times and I will say it again: All of you that love the simpler style of vengeance...where were you when RAVENWATCH was NO-CP + No-Proc????
All we had was people complaining about not being able to use the new proc sets. This will not fix anything. I know how to fix PVP balance, its VERY VERY simple , but no one cares.
REMOVE HEALING POWER SCALING OFF OF DAMAGE. Boom PVP balance fixed. No more high burst dmg 1 button full health self heals.
I played it and quickly dropped out after theorycrafting. The performance was horrendous, the builds absurdly unbalanced, and the player cap was tiny. At least when it was just no-CP it was clear what sets you can use (all of them!).
Vengeance fixes everything, which is IMO amazing from something that's just a performance debugging test. If you like Cyrodiil, you'll love having >3x the player population and having wars all across the map. That alone makes every sacrifice worth it. And it's just a test!
The devs made it absolutely clear, they said it over and over.
Vengeance fixes nothing. It's a totally different game than live Cyrodiil. ZOS is not dealing with vengeance as though it's just a test. Look at what they do, not listen to what they say.
Vengeance was literally proven to fix the lag and playercap issue. If you had played earlier on in eso the combat is much closer to the more clear and concise almost fighting game appeal that made PvP popular to begin with. Also zos is quite literally using vengeance as a test......
MorallyBipolar wrote: »Vengeance had more players in queue the first few days than Grey Host, Blackreach and Ravenwatch together in Cyrodiil so it would get full even without closing GreyHost especially when most vengeance haters rather not play than Vengeance like they say all the time.
Vengeance haters as you call them, the most unreasonable players. It's been ages since PvPers have complained about lag, and the general state of abandonment of the PvP realm by devs. But the moment the devs decide to seriously engage with improving this aspect of their game, some players complain more and refuse to participate in testing things. This is by far the worst moment to desert. Players who have concerns about the future PvP in ESO should participate and give their feedback so they can voice their concerns and ideas, and maybe have an impact on the future shape of their favorite game.
Vengeance isn't PvP in the traditional sense. It's more like templated PvE with other players.
People are not making the connection of how vengeance mode decouples PvP from the need to do any PvE in the game. Vengeance will be one of the last changes ZOS makes before shutting down ESO if it becomes mandated.
Vengeance is literally raw pvp quite literally in its traditional sense. Sorry it just doesn't have proc effect sets to crutch on.
Also funny to say considering live pvp is down to 5-6 12 man groups now adays....it is near the point where you might as well turn it into 12v12 bg matches.
Re: Solo play is Almost Impossible Anymore
xylena_lazarow wrote: »Biggest obstacle to solo play is lack of action. Ignored on the back lines. No front line zerg to surf.
1vX is still doable, if you can actually find an X that isn't a ball group, sweaty smallscale, or faction zerg.
I've stopped playing now because I'm not a big fan of subclassing but this was pretty much my experience. It was actually incredibly hard to find a fight as a solo player where it was not just 20+ man groups around. even 1v4 those 4 players will just run away if you start winning.
you might be one of the last voices of reason this forum xylena
Re: ESO Leadership Roundtable Discussion
"We also need to get better at listening to our community, communicating our plans, and showing you that your feedback is not only heard but a driving force behind our decisions."
If only I hadn't heard that every year these past 10+ years. I do hope that this time it's delivered.
If only I hadn't heard that every year these past 10+ years. I do hope that this time it's delivered.
Tandor
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Re: That huge, huge, HUGE area effect
Avran_Sylt wrote: »Thumbless_Bot wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »Thumbless_Bot wrote: »Its ~452m squared... 12m radius, not 6. I made the same mistake originally. That's why the circle is SOOOO big.
It's an entire battlefield. It shouldn't exist at all. Much less every 8 seconds. Much less with that radius, much less with the rule breaking mechanic.
It's just downright bad.
Its almost like 5 piece sets shouldnt have proc effects......let alone proc effects that are larger or more grandiose than most ultimates in the game.
We wonder why new players can't understand combat and never learn pvp. It was much easier back in the day when players just had to learn maybe the 60 or so skills. Now we have maybe 10x the animations on characters to the point where you cant see anything going on.
Ideally only important animations like CC or ultimates would be prominent. This is why originally skills you unlock early on were simple animations designed for spam without bloating the game. The final skills like streak were the more costly big animation skills that were hard to spam.
A bit of a rant. But here it goes.
Zos implements things like this to make, in their words, pvp 'less intense' for Timmy and Tammy Tamriel who are pve focused non-sweats who want to have the feeling of accomplishment in pvp without putting in the time to get gud.
Dark Convergence was their first foray. This wasn't enough so they made an even worse version called ROA.
They did this with 2 team bgs as well. Suffice it to say that Timmy and Tammy have a harder time in this new format. It's less intense though, but only because they cant leave spawn and actually compete.
This philosophy failed.
THIS
PHILOSOPHY
FAILED
In fact this philosophy is insidious. It has caused a downfall of eso pvp and why I often refer to it as a circus sideshow now... because that's what zos has turned pvp into in their efforts to make pvp 'less intense'.
It needs to stop and the changes made to this end, like roa, DC and 2 team battlegrounds, all need to be removed so pvp can be fun and COMPETITVE again.
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Pvp should be intense. It is competitive.
Outside of Vengeance, I don't really recall them having such a philosophy. I've only ever seen PvP changes that favor small-scale coordinated groups and feeding into the turtling down/can't kill me playstyle/*** people off you can't die playstyle. (Like how they removed resource keep destruction to give 1vX'ers an easy place to LoS)
Subclassing is the only change I've seen in this philosophy, yet mainly due to free access to various unblockable stuns and ever increasing sources of layered burst and crit. Which, once again, isn't in favor of Timmy and Tammy due to the theory crafting and mechanical setup.
Never understood why resource towers couldn't be destroyed even as a small scaler I enjoyed it when they broke. Granted there arent many pug zergs anymore that would ever stick around. The ball groups and coordinated guild groups just ignore smallscalers now.
Lots of changes were for zergs though like wd sets becoming useless in favor of proc sets and group stacking sets. Why can't I have the old fury set that builds up to 750wd when I take 20 crit damage hits? Meanwhile a zerg can slot a set that gives 300wd to 12 people for essentially a 5 piece that gives 3600wd at all times
Or how about how live skills have become more boring, and now they are just having bonus bloat effects attached to them? Old skills like wings reflect used to be unique and helped level the playingfield.....instead it got gutted and is just having extra bland power creep effects thrown on it instead. Or harness magicka. Or siphon strikes. Or Ball of Lightning. People complain about vengeance template pvp, but dont see they are already playing a template pvp. Skills became so boring and copy paste over the years. The only difference in most skills now adays are what major/minor buff zos stapled onto a generic skill.