I really hate how the latest werewolf model looks to be honest. It doesn't look like a werewolf to me. It instead looks like Andre the Giant wearing a wolf pelt and sporting a mullet. It doesn't look mean or imposing to me at all. The model looks like it's stretched vertically and It's just really uncanny.

The current model on the live server looks goofy, and this new one looks ugly. It isn't an upgrade imo, it's a side-grade at most. A pointless waste of a designer's time that doesn't actually make werewolf form any cooler or more appealing visually.

For contrast, here's what a Werewolf from a game called Altered Beast on the PS2 looks like:


Look how much cooler and more menacing it looks. Why is it that a werewolf from a 20 year old, D-tier PS2 game that no one knows about and that was made on a shoestring budget looks better than that one we'll be getting. It's really not a good look for the design team at ZOS.

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TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Remove the Dewclaw, no other Werewolf has it, even the Werewolf Behemoth does not have it

it is a visual inconsistency.

Update the Werewolf Behemoth to have the dew claw.

Dewclaws for everyone!

Ok, I owe you all an apology.


Context:

• I used to struggle with 2bar builds before Oakensoul. When ZOS gave us this mythic, my life changed, my love for the game changed, and everything felt better. As some of you may know, I’ve always defended Oakensoul players because I know how good that item used to be.

But:

• I switched from Oakensoul to Arcanist, and since then I’ve mostly played with 2bars, with or without Rakkhat’s. The truth is, I never went back to Oakensoul, not for any specific reason, but simply because I moved forward.

Until today…

• Today I joined vRG with my worst build (Oakensoul), and I already knew it before we even started—I even said it in chat.

So why do I owe you all an apology?
Because Oakensoul… oh boy… it’s bad. Really, really bad. This is NOT the Oakensoul I remember—not even close. I don’t know if it got nerfed again or when the last nerf happened, but ZOS… congrats, you really destroyed this item. lol
This thing feels completely useless now. My god, ZOS… why did you do this…?

I Owe You All an Apology, You Were Right About Oakensoul - @Zaan's

MaverickWerewolf wrote: »

I am sorry I tried to bring up literally any specifics about the shoulders and build. I actually do not care at all what the problem or non-problem is with the shoulders or what the particulars of the anatomy are. Whatever that is simply does not look good, no matter what the breakdown and explanation and whatever. I'm sorry, I don't want to sound dismissive of anyone, but I also feel as if I've been dismissed because of some particulars of anatomy, and that is definitely not what I mean/am concerned about. I'm just concerned about the design and how it looks, at the end of the day, not "why" something looks the way it does.

Frankly, it looks awful, and they should make it look more menacing and powerful. Regardless of the nitty-gritty, it looks narrow and silly with its current build and body shape, and it needs work. And I have played video games since the early 90s, so yes, I do know how models and poses work; it will not look any better in-game, either.

Here are some random grabs of assorted video game werewolves:


(yes, I know this is a wolf man and I know those are hated here, but the point of the build still stands; he actually looks scarier and more wolfish than that WIP model, too, lol)

Notice how broad-shouldered and V-tapered these are, to make them look powerful and menacing. This new werewolf model does not have that, and it makes it look bad and silly.

I appreciate the abs and I appreciate the size increase, but the shoulders need to be addressed.

I just hope this will happen and we don't end up with this model, because it simply doesn't look good or well done artistically.

I agree that I liked the concept art much better than what we are ending up with.

I actually enjoy all werewolf types. Wolfmen are cool too. People need to learn to embrace all sides

Jordan_Black wrote: »

alternatelder wrote: »

I wouldn't doubt it. Did you know the sound you hear your character make isn't the same soundbite someone else will hear? Like certain grunts, laughs, etc?

I mean that's fine, some of the graphics are depressed versions too, but skill styles should show for everyone, part of the point of having them is to show them off. When I use my purple arc beam, people see a purple arc beam even if the beam doesn't look the same.

Oh, really?
I always hoped some weren't visible outside of client side. I'm not using different colors to show off, I'm trying to make a more appealing visual consistency for myself so I'm not shooting rainbows everywhere.
I've seen the class-specific styles on other players, but I don't recall seeing differing styles for things like weapon skills. So I assumed just some were intentionally withheld.

I don't want to see someone's twinkly princess peach sparkles because they're wanting to misguidedly show off. Hopefully that's an option that will be addressed in the VFX setting adjustments.

I didn't mind the Chapter system but I was rather bored with it. It was ok but I'm looking forward to these changes just to see what things will be like.

If we are lamenting what we miss about the 'old' ESO, here's a few I miss that go back to the very early days...

I miss the game starting everyone with the Molag Bal opening quest.

I miss the base zones being level based so you did them in order as you levelled up. You could go to any of them but you might find the mobs are 10 levels higher than you.

I miss the raw matts in the base zones being associated with the levels that questing gave you in those zones. I could have one crafter, completely levelled up but I knew if I needed iron I could take her to Glenumbra and farm iron and maple there. Then I could take her to a higher zone for a different level mat. I really, really miss that. Especially for farming different waters.

I REALLY miss Craglorn not even being accessible to you unless you were Veteran 1 level, and even at that I had to sneak around and avoid the wasps I was never happy to see level 7's farming nirn after what we all did to get there, and I thought it just made Craglorn special in a good way.

I kind of felt the game caved to the "quick and easy" and I get it for attracting those players but I still miss it.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Probably not intended, so submit a /bug.

The fireball meteor was like that when it first dropped as well, where other players couldn't see it in orange. They fixed that in a later update.

Hope so. I just submitted a bug.

I'd personally be fine if they managed to return to the story design and depth, and writing quality, they had in ESO's earlier years, in particular what we saw in base game, Wrothgar, and the Morrowind - CWC - Summerset story arc. After that, the decline began, though Elsweyr was still good for me, and I also liked Greymoor for the overall atmosphere and some of the characters introduced. But after that? Well...

There were just a few stories that felt particularly well-written and had that typical TES feel for me within the past few years: the Tel Dreloth quest in Telvanni Peninsula, Corelanya Manor in West Solstice, and Zerith-var's storyline. They had some truly tragic aspect without immediately destroying the atmosphere with some stupid quips or juvenile jokes. They had morally ambiguous situations and characters, without immediately lecturing the player like a child about how bad these deeds and people were. They felt more mature than most ESO stories nowadays, and also a bit more complex in theme. This is exactly what I'd like to see here!

And just last week I found out that these three quests/questlines were all written by the same writer (it's stated like that on UESP). If they're wise, they should involve this writer more, especially also into bigger storylines. Then I see a chance that ESO could, over time, get back on the level the writing had back at Summerset times. But if that will happen or if we'll get more shallow, quippy, "funny" meme stuff...?

I'm not against a bit of humour, by the way. ESO always had some funnier moments, also in base game. But it was on a different level than what we saw in the last few years, and the writing also had many serious stories as a contrast.