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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
My initial experience with night market has not been good. It took me a while to figure out where the tunnel was leading to the zone. The existing tunnels are marked on the map with dotted lines. It could have used an added dotted line from the tunnel branch point to the night market.
The quest said to talk to the curator. There was a curator stood outside the portal, but no quest icon above his head. I talked to him, went through the dialog finding out about the factions and the night market, but it did not advance the quest. I went in the portal, and the curator was there near the entrance. He had the same dialogs, but this time there was a way to advance the quest.
It would be less jarring if the curator stood outside advanced the quest and sent me inside. Or even if there was just a marker above the portal, and just one curator, that would have been fine.
The main plaza feels a bit empty, and big. I noticed there were a bunch of crafting stations, but no crafting quests. That was a bit odd. It would have been nice to be able to mount in the plaza.
The different factions seem a bit unbalanced. It looks like most of the players chose thousand eyes, which was my natural choice. A big part of ESO is the exploration for me, and I'm sure it is for many other players. If you were hoping to have a fairly even mix of players picking factions, the faction themes were poorly chosen.
When I finally went through the initial quests and went into the first zone, it was over fairly quickly. Twice. I expected the difficulty to be like a public dungeon. I died very quickly on the first pull. There was no res at my body with cooldown, the only option was back to the wayshrine. That was annoying.
When I got back to the zone, another player was pulling the mobs. I figured the two of us should be able to handle the mobs. Wrong. We both died pretty quickly.
The closest overland contrast I might give is Craglorn. However craglorn has a main zone quest that can be easily completed solo. The group content is very clearly labeled on the map, and a big message comes up "You are entering a group area". That is entirely missing from this zone. It does not appear that I can complete any quests solo.
It looks like the usual zone completion statistics are missing. All the icons appear to be discovered at the start. I like working through the zones completing them.
I'm sorry if this offends people, but the level of quality in this game feels like you are either not testing it, or outsourcing testing. I am now getting a sense that there is less investment going into the game, and I'm not getting the value for money that I once got.
The only possible saving grace might be the cross play that might happen next year. I understand cross play is probably where console and PC players are on the same server. I'm hoping that it'll mean that the NA and EU servers are also merged. I swapped servers last year, and I have a lot of progress on the NA server. It's hard to repeat a lot of that on EU in the games present state.
I really hope you guys get the game back on track. I actually liked getting an expansion every year. This season thing/new experiment doesn't work for me.
Ironically, and I'm sure this will amuse a few people, I'm going to be playing Starfield instead for now
The quest said to talk to the curator. There was a curator stood outside the portal, but no quest icon above his head. I talked to him, went through the dialog finding out about the factions and the night market, but it did not advance the quest. I went in the portal, and the curator was there near the entrance. He had the same dialogs, but this time there was a way to advance the quest.
It would be less jarring if the curator stood outside advanced the quest and sent me inside. Or even if there was just a marker above the portal, and just one curator, that would have been fine.
The main plaza feels a bit empty, and big. I noticed there were a bunch of crafting stations, but no crafting quests. That was a bit odd. It would have been nice to be able to mount in the plaza.
The different factions seem a bit unbalanced. It looks like most of the players chose thousand eyes, which was my natural choice. A big part of ESO is the exploration for me, and I'm sure it is for many other players. If you were hoping to have a fairly even mix of players picking factions, the faction themes were poorly chosen.
When I finally went through the initial quests and went into the first zone, it was over fairly quickly. Twice. I expected the difficulty to be like a public dungeon. I died very quickly on the first pull. There was no res at my body with cooldown, the only option was back to the wayshrine. That was annoying.
When I got back to the zone, another player was pulling the mobs. I figured the two of us should be able to handle the mobs. Wrong. We both died pretty quickly.
The closest overland contrast I might give is Craglorn. However craglorn has a main zone quest that can be easily completed solo. The group content is very clearly labeled on the map, and a big message comes up "You are entering a group area". That is entirely missing from this zone. It does not appear that I can complete any quests solo.
It looks like the usual zone completion statistics are missing. All the icons appear to be discovered at the start. I like working through the zones completing them.
I'm sorry if this offends people, but the level of quality in this game feels like you are either not testing it, or outsourcing testing. I am now getting a sense that there is less investment going into the game, and I'm not getting the value for money that I once got.
The only possible saving grace might be the cross play that might happen next year. I understand cross play is probably where console and PC players are on the same server. I'm hoping that it'll mean that the NA and EU servers are also merged. I swapped servers last year, and I have a lot of progress on the NA server. It's hard to repeat a lot of that on EU in the games present state.
I really hope you guys get the game back on track. I actually liked getting an expansion every year. This season thing/new experiment doesn't work for me.
Ironically, and I'm sure this will amuse a few people, I'm going to be playing Starfield instead for now
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
I am stoked to see the different ways to start the quest featured in the recent news article- usually it says "from the crown store" and I have to spend time looking overland how to get there more organically. Thank you thank you for including this in the article, I might never have found blackwood on my own!
Re: Night Market Opinion Poll
I'm fine with the bosses being difficult content for groups. Trash mobs being difficult, though, is just a massive nuisance that slows you down when you're trying to get from A to B. Whether you're just questing or trying to get from boss to boss.
Re: Night Market Opinion Poll
Played it mostly solo tonight and joined a pug that randomly invited me at one point.
Overall it's not great nor is it terrible. I find it mostly just tedious. I went in with my run-of-the-mill PvP build and it was slow going. Not much was threatening me but it takes forever to kill stuff. If a random meta arc walks by though they just instantly melt everything's face off in a second or two so I'd say it feels about on par with a vet dungeon maybe? The only thing that got annoying was that between the random lag spikes (of which there seems to be many!) and the overabundance of screen-filling AoE effects, it's pretty annoying to just drop over dead from something that hits for 100k+ damage even when blocking just because you didn't know there was something heading toward you that needed to be dodged. From a boss I'd get that, but this just seems to come from some of the pack champions. I'd rather they just hit me for like 99% of my health instead of a must-dodge-or-die attack.
The bosses are probably the best part. They have some fun mechs and really require at least a couple people with good builds that know how to play a role in a team.
Overall I'd say it's far more engaging than anything I've seen ZoS release since... well... Craglorn! But I suspect that once the curiosity fades then people will come to it less and less. Having a limited window of time to do so will stave that off while a while I'm sure. But eventually it will just be another dead zone that you need to gather up guildies if you want to do it as a team.
Overall it's not great nor is it terrible. I find it mostly just tedious. I went in with my run-of-the-mill PvP build and it was slow going. Not much was threatening me but it takes forever to kill stuff. If a random meta arc walks by though they just instantly melt everything's face off in a second or two so I'd say it feels about on par with a vet dungeon maybe? The only thing that got annoying was that between the random lag spikes (of which there seems to be many!) and the overabundance of screen-filling AoE effects, it's pretty annoying to just drop over dead from something that hits for 100k+ damage even when blocking just because you didn't know there was something heading toward you that needed to be dodged. From a boss I'd get that, but this just seems to come from some of the pack champions. I'd rather they just hit me for like 99% of my health instead of a must-dodge-or-die attack.
The bosses are probably the best part. They have some fun mechs and really require at least a couple people with good builds that know how to play a role in a team.
Overall I'd say it's far more engaging than anything I've seen ZoS release since... well... Craglorn! But I suspect that once the curiosity fades then people will come to it less and less. Having a limited window of time to do so will stave that off while a while I'm sure. But eventually it will just be another dead zone that you need to gather up guildies if you want to do it as a team.
Sluggy
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Re: Does Night Market Have Too Many Instances Up?
BardokRedSnow wrote: »BretonMage wrote: »I don't know if it's the low cap/too many instances, but I've been stalking all the active skirmish locations for a day and there's never anyone there.
group finder is the way, its literally the only reason i was able to do anything in the parch which is sad because the district is my fav lol but people only want to do the other two faction related ones.
No love for the Ruckus.
It's really, really hard to get around the Parch without the relic. I'm trying to get the splinters for it now and it's painful with no one around.
Edit: I've also been wandering around Sorrow and there's no one there either.
Re: Oddities in Night Market
Not a fan of these type of riddles in multiplayer areas as I think they just kill the gameflow
Nemesis7884
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Re: Skill-Based Combat is Back: Why the Night Market is the Ultimate "Mistake Check" for solo players
heimdall14_9 wrote: »Tzirzhalir wrote: »So Night market is catered to 5% of players(uh, elitists-cough) while the 95% (normal folk)suffer. What an intriguing idea. I can see why the "seasons" era is nothing more than a cover for maintenance mode and in 5 years from now this game will be down the toilet and will no longer be around. It's not about getting good, it's about having an "event" that caters to all of the community.
in 10 years this the 1st event for VETERANS think on that number and for 10 of them players has been asking for harder overland and a VET LEVEL playground like old day crag was ..
Yes, 95% suffer and 95% will leave and say why am I doing this? To receive cheap rewards and get sucked into FOMO golden pursuits. Looking at this from a third person perspective ZOS are clearly in chaos and have bad leadership and are frantically trying to save a dying horse but during their twitch streams they seem so positive and happy... which is a lie. Everything is fake because they all know the truth, ESO is on it's last legs and ZOS will now hunt down and manipulate new players because they are blind to their ugly truths. You and I Sir Crowley are considered old players who have been around since 2015 and know how this organization operates. I, personally have been flogging this dead horse (ESO) and I have finally realized that it is time to walk away and focus on real life and ignore this blatant manipulation and extortion from this company. The greed tactics are obvious, ESO used to be a beautiful and a fun game where communities supported each other because we felt secure in a structured environment, it's now chaos, the same chaos of a dying system. "SEASONS" is just a word to say we are in maintenance mode and following from maintenance it will go into administration and will end. ESO's death is on every member leading and directing from ZOS, it's on them entirely. After 11 years, having capped CP, having many experiences good and bad in ESO I have unsubscribed and uninstalled. WE THE PEOPLE have the POWER to walk away and to realize we are not going to be "played" by this organization any longer. Without us - your player base - You ZOS will cease to be anything but the real identity of your real life personalities that being living under this motto - we actually despise our player base and go out of our way to be supremely toxic to them by creating content which makes them unhappy. Night Market is an embarrassment as was last years "Solstice" and it will continue going down until it's completely destroyed.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
Tried again tonight. Though I cannot say for certain, I can say I spent an hour & a half in the skittering Precinct and saw 1 other solo and 1 group of 2. Zero larger groups. My impression is so similar to Danniv's that they deserve the credit.
I personally will not be back. But if you enjoy it, good for you!...The difficulty is ridiculous. I mean over the top nuts. You can't avoid mobs, you can't kite mobs without agroing even more mobs. We ended up at a respawn point where there was no way to get to an objective because we couldn't live to get away from the base of the building. The design is just plain terrible. I am terribly disappointed. I have never been more than slightly disappointed in anything ESO has put out in the years I have been playing...
Sadly, this zone is almost as bad as your last chapter release ... Some really bad decisions in the Night Market. Really bad...
I really hope you do something to make this zone and your other new content more friendly to the majority of your player base, but you're going to have to move fast if you want anyone left to enjoy it.
Re: Night Market Opinion Poll
We've had many posts asking for harder content and at least one popular post asking for more 'down time' between events. I wasn't in either category, but I must say I'm enjoying pottering around finishing off the EP zones, doing my weekly harvesting quests and grinding for the squirrel pet.
This event and the GP don't have any pet, mount or costume as a reward, and there are no trade bars I'm missing out on.
I haven't even started the Elsweyrs, High Isle, Galen or Solstice yet. So there's plenty to keep me occupied until Zeal of Zenithar that's way more fun than being one shot by a dremnaken - or joining a group I can't get near because I keep getting one shot by a dremnaken...
I hope the 'harder content' players are enjoying themselves as much as I'm enjoying my 'down time'
This event and the GP don't have any pet, mount or costume as a reward, and there are no trade bars I'm missing out on.
I haven't even started the Elsweyrs, High Isle, Galen or Solstice yet. So there's plenty to keep me occupied until Zeal of Zenithar that's way more fun than being one shot by a dremnaken - or joining a group I can't get near because I keep getting one shot by a dremnaken...
I hope the 'harder content' players are enjoying themselves as much as I'm enjoying my 'down time'
Grec1a
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Re: Necro class mastery passives are disappointing
Once again!
Necro should have been remastered this year because:
1. We have been asking for a refresh for years
2. It is a paid class, and people should be able to enjoy what they paid for.
3. The class is destroyed and the recent changes should go along with new passives and skills.
4. Grave lord sacrifice is a failure and nobody uses it.
5. Ranked the worst class in the game.
6. Discriminations in the game, people are kicking necromancers out of groups, except tanks.
7. PvP is unplayable with this class.
8. Buggy as hell and depressive to play with.
9. Useless skills like totem, grave lord sacrifice of grave grasp, that people don’t even use.
And I bet other players might find other points to support this.
Necro should have been refreshed winter this year, and there is still time for devs to see reason.
If the class is to remain in this state, I believe that I will stop investing money into this game, simply because I am not getting anything in return but nerfs.
Necro should have been remastered this year because:
1. We have been asking for a refresh for years
2. It is a paid class, and people should be able to enjoy what they paid for.
3. The class is destroyed and the recent changes should go along with new passives and skills.
4. Grave lord sacrifice is a failure and nobody uses it.
5. Ranked the worst class in the game.
6. Discriminations in the game, people are kicking necromancers out of groups, except tanks.
7. PvP is unplayable with this class.
8. Buggy as hell and depressive to play with.
9. Useless skills like totem, grave lord sacrifice of grave grasp, that people don’t even use.
And I bet other players might find other points to support this.
Necro should have been refreshed winter this year, and there is still time for devs to see reason.
If the class is to remain in this state, I believe that I will stop investing money into this game, simply because I am not getting anything in return but nerfs.
