Freelancer_ESO wrote: »

Personally, I'm not really a big fan of the Empower change.

My impression is that for anyone with less than +40% damage done besides Empower the change is a buff which isn't really needed for the Overland experience.

Oakensoul has minor berserk and minor slayer which are 5% each (these aren't hard buffs to get if you're not running oaken). Weapons Expert is an essential CP for HA builds, that's 20%. If Sorc you have 5% to lightning damage. Direct Aim CP is 6%.
So almost any HA build will have 36%, sorcs will have 41%. It's not really a buff for almost anyone. It's just bringing the floor back to where it is on live, and still lowering the ceiling. It's the least they could do.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

BattleAxe wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

Just give Werewolf a second bar and 5 more active abilities. Spread the power out between all 10 Werewolf Active Abilities and encourage us to bar swap.

At least then we'd have no excuse not to be comparable to a Class. And we'd finally get to do the bar swap mechanic in Cloudrest as an added bonus.

Why not instead turn werewolf and vampire into their own fully fledged class with 3 skill lines each solve several things in one shot buffing both werewolf and vampire play styles as well as satisfy the urge for new classes for game.

Ultimately, this would be for the best. Werewolf would then be worthy of having crouch/sneak animations loaded into Cyrodiil (part of the reason they aren't is because other Classes need animations for their reworks, too) and Werewolf would be on the same level as other playstyles. We'd for sure get Werewolf represented in the Vengeance, Companions, and Scribing systems, because all Classes are.

Instead, Werewolf is currently considered a "pseudo Class" (the term "subclass" now has a different meaning) at best, unworthy of the attention that the other Classes get. And don't forget about Vampire, which is currently relegated to being just a single skill line that you cherry pick skills from (like Psijic Order) because you aren't meant to use them as a cohesive kit the way you're meant to use Werewolf.

It would only be a pseudo class if you were always a werewolf though. At present you can be a beaming acranist with a form change button that gives an additional 5 skills. The question of whether that works or not is obviously a matter for debate, but that it is an additional 5 skills on demand seems to be a point that is glossed over.

I don't know any Werewolf player who intentionally uses both of their forms for combat. You're intended to maintain Werewolf form for as long as possible.

It just feels awkward to try to incorporate both forms into a rotation or burst. That's why Werewolf players typically build around their Werewolf form and stay in it whenever combat happens, only reverting form to mount up or place siege. Werewolf offers no benefit if you build around the human form, so at that point you might as well be a Vampire for the free passives.

You can stay transformed for hours on end in PvE and PvP, which is why I consider it to be basically a pseudo Class. I just wish you could do more things inside Werewolf form (like place siege, crouch/sneak, emote, use crafting stations, go fishing, excavate antiquities, use Skill Scrolls, mount up or run as fast as a mount, and so on) so you'd never actually need to leave Werewolf form for anything.