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Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
dark_hunterxmg wrote: »
Along with RoA's lack of CC immunity, DKs leap and it's undocumented CC was was also amongst my pain points that they asked for not so long ago.
This was added years ago to Dragon Leap to fix situations where people could walk out of the area before it even hits. So while it is undocumented, it is not unintentional. It was an active decision that carried over into the rework.
I'm aware of when and why this was done. I'm of the opinion that if they can't make something work within the rules and limitations of their own game, it shouldn't be in the game. Why am I breaking cc, rolling immobilize, only to get immediately nailed too the floor again so I can be dog piled. The class rework could have been used to address this mechanic.Going after Serpent's Disdain when Rush of Agony and Warden Charm exist in their current form is crazy work.
I brought up Serpent's Disdain because a similar set had recently been changed (Relequen), so it made sense.
There are a number of threads about Rush of Agony and Warden charm, but please feel free to make more.
There is room for discussion on more than one item set.
Serpents Disdain isn't the reason for the power creep in status effects.
I have never claimed this.
You have either misread this thread or not read it at all.
Burtan
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
What can I say? It's a terrible zone. Been there, get killed couple of times, lost interest. It reminds me of the worst places in the game - Craglorn, Imperial City, Nymics... Somehow it's even worse.
If you want it to be played only by elitists who love grouping, then its' fine. Everyone else out.
So - lower the difficulty and make it soloable (just do it like in dungeons - normal mode and veteran mode). If not I think it will be a dead zone in a week and you are exluding 90% of playerbase.
Shame because I thing the feeling of the zone is great. I'd love to spend some time there. But not in current state. I play for fun not frustration.
If you want it to be played only by elitists who love grouping, then its' fine. Everyone else out.
So - lower the difficulty and make it soloable (just do it like in dungeons - normal mode and veteran mode). If not I think it will be a dead zone in a week and you are exluding 90% of playerbase.
Shame because I thing the feeling of the zone is great. I'd love to spend some time there. But not in current state. I play for fun not frustration.
Daimonion82
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Re: Why is everyone so adverse to grouping for NM?
Grouping negates Ring of the Pale Order
Because you don't need it in a group. Kinda the whole point
Re: ZOS, Massive Spike in Ping/LAG in Recent Days - What Gives?
If there was one thread that it truly immortal for ESO, this is it!
Re: The night market is a disaster
True they could do better I'm sure, but also I'm sure there's limitations with that old hardware.
Re: Shattered Paths Signet Is Problematic
Seeing as this one isn't tied to any paid dlc I'm sure they'll nerf it a lot sooner than monomyth. Probably after the night market is over so that way they juiced engagement as much as possible.
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
I can see both sides of the coin on this to some degree. The thing about all MMOs is that you're almost always going to have an easier time by interacting and playing with other people. Can you solo it as an alternative? A lot of it, sure but its not really made to be that way. There were a lot of great suggestions and builds put forth on the forums about helpful builds and other things in Night Market. That really is the true spirit of Eso! We need more of that in the game!
I play all content in the game. People who run trials a lot like myself, and I run them all the time, need something new to break up the monotony from the same old content. Same old systems. There are a lot of gatekeepers in that sort of content and I will never be someone who participates in such behavior. Or condones it. We clear it just the same only without excluding people or making them feel inferior. Or even worse, demanding a resume from them. We are not too good to play Eso with ANYONE.
Night Market isn't explicitly trial content either but its a better way for people to be able to experience group play with various size groups, not just 12. And all levels of players can be included in this where a lot of trials or other things really make it difficult or even impossible for lower cp and other things to participate. The nice thing about groups in the Night Market is that you're not automatically looking at the same 4 supports with the same gear sets and pretty much 8 dps with the same 1 or 2 blender builds everyone is selling in online videos. You can have people in your ranks at 300 cp and they can go into this content. Or people wearing gear that isnt totally suitable for difficult content can succeed if only a couple people in the group do.
You can follow groups around solo but its not much different than walking up to a Mirrimoor Incursion that's already in progress. Can those be soloed? Yes, but you're really going to have to work for it. It wasn't intended to be that way. Even PvP, can you do it solo, sure. If so, it's probably going to be a very long bumpy ride. Dungeons, of course they can be soloed, but its going to require a lot more time and work. Some of them simply can't be soloed because of the mechanics. Zos really has done a nice thing by introducing the new solo dungeons to reach the solo player community. Not really my cup of tea, but I'll still run it anyway and be happy that it exists for people who enjoy it and wanted it. Maelstrom Arena, totally solo. I don't like it so much, but it doesn't stop me from participating in it.
Solo play and content is also a very important part of Eso and I wouldn't want to see it diminished or taken away. At the same time, people who only really do or enjoy group play deserve to have new things like Night Marjet added to the game. I and all of my Guilds are really having a lot of fun for this event! And we are bringing along as many solo players and people who aren't exactly used to group or difficult content as possible along for the adventure. The bulk of the fun for us comes from making this event brighter for them.
I think if a normal mode were added to this type of content it would basically eliminate its intended purpose. It would cease to be challenging group play. All you would see are the big dogs out there alone farming it for furniture plans and that sort of thing. It would just become a ghost town like many of the overland zones.
I play all content in the game. People who run trials a lot like myself, and I run them all the time, need something new to break up the monotony from the same old content. Same old systems. There are a lot of gatekeepers in that sort of content and I will never be someone who participates in such behavior. Or condones it. We clear it just the same only without excluding people or making them feel inferior. Or even worse, demanding a resume from them. We are not too good to play Eso with ANYONE.
Night Market isn't explicitly trial content either but its a better way for people to be able to experience group play with various size groups, not just 12. And all levels of players can be included in this where a lot of trials or other things really make it difficult or even impossible for lower cp and other things to participate. The nice thing about groups in the Night Market is that you're not automatically looking at the same 4 supports with the same gear sets and pretty much 8 dps with the same 1 or 2 blender builds everyone is selling in online videos. You can have people in your ranks at 300 cp and they can go into this content. Or people wearing gear that isnt totally suitable for difficult content can succeed if only a couple people in the group do.
You can follow groups around solo but its not much different than walking up to a Mirrimoor Incursion that's already in progress. Can those be soloed? Yes, but you're really going to have to work for it. It wasn't intended to be that way. Even PvP, can you do it solo, sure. If so, it's probably going to be a very long bumpy ride. Dungeons, of course they can be soloed, but its going to require a lot more time and work. Some of them simply can't be soloed because of the mechanics. Zos really has done a nice thing by introducing the new solo dungeons to reach the solo player community. Not really my cup of tea, but I'll still run it anyway and be happy that it exists for people who enjoy it and wanted it. Maelstrom Arena, totally solo. I don't like it so much, but it doesn't stop me from participating in it.
Solo play and content is also a very important part of Eso and I wouldn't want to see it diminished or taken away. At the same time, people who only really do or enjoy group play deserve to have new things like Night Marjet added to the game. I and all of my Guilds are really having a lot of fun for this event! And we are bringing along as many solo players and people who aren't exactly used to group or difficult content as possible along for the adventure. The bulk of the fun for us comes from making this event brighter for them.
I think if a normal mode were added to this type of content it would basically eliminate its intended purpose. It would cease to be challenging group play. All you would see are the big dogs out there alone farming it for furniture plans and that sort of thing. It would just become a ghost town like many of the overland zones.
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
Calling solo‑friendly content "brain dead easy"
LittleLionLeone wrote: »not every piece of content needs to be solo friendly or brain dead easy.
Notice how I said "or"?
I am a solo player, I know some solo stuff is hard. But if something like the night market was easy then you would be able to solo it a lot more easily.
Night Market is like a step above vet dlc dungeons.
Just two trolls waking up… oh boy. Both still have so much to learn…
Acting like that does you zero favors.
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
What part is so hard to understand? I’ll break it down into points so I can explain it better if needed:
So why exclude them this time? Give me one valid reason why ZoS should exclude “normal” casual players from enjoying the market.
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I refuse, I don’t like it, and I don’t want to play a game where the rule is “play with others or bye-bye.” Because let’s be honest… ESO is not the best MMO in the world... lol!. If I’m looking for a massive multiplayer experience, I can find plenty of better options out there.
And that’s what I want to understand from ZoS. Is it really that hard to accept?
- No one is asking for a nerf in the [snip] Market. At least, I’m not. In fact, I don’t care if ZoS makes it even harder. If some players enjoy that, why not? Any issues with this point?
- Why can’t we have a “normal” mode in the [snip] Market? Why not? Why don’t solo players have the option this time to play the game the way it has always been—Normal → Veteran → Veteran HM? Why change that core structure now?
Is ZoS planning to make future content this difficult as well? If so, then we’re back to the main question: does ZoS plan to exclude solo players from the game?
If the answer is yes, then fine, I don’t have a problem with that, and I’ll simply leave the game. But I need to understand the truth: why exclude solo players from having a “normal” mode? Why move away from “play as you want” to “play-with-others or bye bye”? - ZoS added this new “hardcore” content, and I honestly have nothing bad to say about it. Nothing at all. But they could also add a “normal” mode so more players can enjoy it. Why not?
- Dungeons and trials are group content, right? (Yes, some can be soloed with high DPS, but you get my point.) Still, all MMO content in ESO usually has a “normal” mode for more casual players. So why not the [snip] Market?
- No one is asking for a nerf.
- Solo/casual players should have the same opportunity to enjoy the market.
So why exclude them this time? Give me one valid reason why ZoS should exclude “normal” casual players from enjoying the market.
EDIT:
I refuse, I don’t like it, and I don’t want to play a game where the rule is “play with others or bye-bye.” Because let’s be honest… ESO is not the best MMO in the world... lol!. If I’m looking for a massive multiplayer experience, I can find plenty of better options out there.
And that’s what I want to understand from ZoS. Is it really that hard to accept?
Athory
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Re: Necro class mastery passives are disappointing
Necromancer – Malevolent Promise [Feedback]: We have been reading your feedback about the Malevolent Promise passive and PvP content and wanted to give a little more context into why it does not work on enemy player characters. When we tested this Class Mastery passive internally, it created an extreme imbalance in PvP situations (we referred to these as “war crimes” in our early dev reveal). Rather than tone down the power of this passive for all content, we opted to make it only usable on non-player enemies in the short term. These passives are not able to be optimal in all possible situations throughout the game as the end-all be-all solutions to Subclassing concerns. Many of these, especially in cases of classes who will benefit greatly from their class refresh pass, are temporary solutions to power imbalances. So, we do hear your feedback and will be making more adjustments to the Class Mastery passives as we work through each class refresh in the future.
While I appreciate the increase in communication vs ZOS simply sweeping Necro issues(GLS, Ghostly Embrace, etc) under the rug for months/years, I think it's about time they figure out what to do about the whole Corpse system that the class uses.
I mean this mechanic is so clunky that we literally have stuff like the Nobility in Decay set or the upcoming Malevolent Promise passive that try to make it more fluid. Then there is also the issue with it being a strain on the servers, so we now have the PvE and PvP Pet/Corpse caps(not even considering the fact that Corpses spawned from stuff like BB already despawn after a certain amount of time, for obvious reasons)
I still don't know why they haven't reworked this so it behaves more like Crux:
-Each skill that generates a Corpse keeps doing the same, but now that ''Corpse'' is an effect on your player character, instead of something on the ground. Let's just call it ''Essence Stacks'' for now.
-Shocking Siphon/Restoring Tether can be reworked into being Enemy/Ally targeted.
-Each skill that consumes a Corpse keeps doing the same, but now they consume the player ''Essence Stacks'' instead. Skills like Boneyard or Tethers would reduce the stack counter by 1. Multi Corpse consuming skills like Bitter Harvest or Enduring Undeath would reduce your stack counter by a greater number.
-Corpse Consumption passive is changed into ''When you consume an Essence Stack...''
-Max number of ''Essence Stacks'' that you can have would probably be 10(max stacks for the Class Mastery Script). Stack duration could be different for each individual skill, or it could be a standard X seconds for all skills that generate them.
-Corpses generated from killing enemies would simply add to the stack counter for Y seconds.
That's it, some stuff like Corpse related sets(Corpseburster/Nobility in Decay) might need number tweaks, and the whole ''cast a Corpse consuming ability on yourself'' could simply be removed or changed into something like ''gain Z Essence Stacks'', but this covers pretty much everything related to Corpses and Corpse generating/consuming skills. Server no longer has to keep track of the coordinates of stuff on the ground, and the mechanic would work much more fluidly and pretty much the same in stationary vs mobile fights.
I would much prefer it got reworked to something like this as well. The clunky corpse mechanic is the root cause of so many issues.
Urvoth
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