Tigor wrote: »

Cyrodiil can't stay alive as long the cheating is not dealt with.

Which form of cheating are you referring to?

Well, I doubt they'd ever try to enforce IP locks for campaigns too, so I doubt they'd be able to address the hardcore PvP guilds that rotate faction fights based on guild events.

Is this another "people are killing me so they must be cheating" thread?

Tigor wrote: »

Running already often in the same players, then I hear the sighing in the background. As if the outcomes are already decided before the start.

The outcomes are generally fair, players who spend more time learning the game and theorycrafting setups etc will generally have better outcomes then those copying a setup and not understanding their characters.

There are players who do cheat still playing, an example of which would be synergy macros which unfortunately some groups use and ZOS could do a better job of monitoring this.

But also with the amount of players left playing cyrodiil you're always going to fight the same players these days without much variety of encounter.

Tigor wrote: »

I don't think that theorycrafting will do any good to the population in Cyrodiil as most players can't do it. On the rest I can agree

The main aspect is more about making an effort to try and understand why choices are made. One of the biggest problems when trying to train newer players in group play for example is to teach them why different choices are made, rather than just sticking them in a setup and telling them to spam a button (not very effective).

I think players could generally improve in this area even if they can't initially come up with the idea on what to run independently.
There are a lot of tools to aid this (such as the combat log) and it should be a factor in determining combat outcomes.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Tigor wrote: »

I don't think that theorycrafting will do any good to the population in Cyrodiil as most players can't do it. On the rest I can agree

The main aspect is more about making an effort to try and understand why choices are made. One of the biggest problems when trying to train newer players in group play for example is to teach them why different choices are made, rather than just sticking them in a setup and telling them to spam a button (not very effective).

I think players could generally improve in this area even if they can't initially come up with the idea on what to run independently.
There are a lot of tools to aid this (such as the combat log) and it should be a factor in determining combat outcomes.

I belief that tools for determining the best choices are not available for, or not familiar to everyone and that is the real unfair factor. Many players like to put there own creativity in the game. If that is not possible they are not feeling happy if opponents are using something Indescribable.

Stridig wrote: »

Tigor wrote: »

Cyrodiil can't stay alive as long the cheating is not dealt with.

Which form of cheating are you referring to?

Tigors definition of cheating is very special - this was his definition 16 month ago:

Tigor wrote:

Alliance hopping

Hopping around like frogs

Exploiting Line of sight

Dodging everything

Flying back and forward

Endless resource management 1vX

Appearing at impossible places after dead

Addons that might show locations

Macros, five skills in one seconds before even seeing someone.

PvD the map when possible and camping when PvP starts.

And many more unexplainable things

source here in post #111

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

Keep in mind in 2025 they said they're changing Cyrodiil so every class has their skills replaced with PvP specific skills.
It's going to be ESO Call of Duty with proc sets.

They are not replacing Cyrodiil with this idea. They explicitly stated in that update letter they will be adding a campaign with PvP specific skills. There will still be the same old regular server.

Telel would be happy if they'd just return to punishing those who use alts for score boosting and AP trading. Especially as it'd make AD zone chat so much less toxic.