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Cyrodiil without cheating

Tigor
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Cyrodiil can't stay alive as long the cheating is not dealt with.
Edited by Tigor on 22 December 2024 12:02
GM - Decimation Elite - Ebonheart Pact - Cyrodiil - aka Tigor (AR50), Leopard Tank (AR50) , Captain-Caveman (AR50), Tigors Claw (AR50), -Bud Spencer (AR49+)
  • Stridig
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    Tigor wrote: »
    Cyrodiil can't stay alive as long the cheating is not dealt with.

    Which form of cheating are you referring to?
    Enemy to many
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  • Tigor
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    Stridig wrote: »
    Tigor wrote: »
    Cyrodiil can't stay alive as long the cheating is not dealt with.

    Which form of cheating are you referring to?

    Every form that does make players feel treated unfair.
    GM - Decimation Elite - Ebonheart Pact - Cyrodiil - aka Tigor (AR50), Leopard Tank (AR50) , Captain-Caveman (AR50), Tigors Claw (AR50), -Bud Spencer (AR49+)
  • Avran_Sylt
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    Well, I doubt they'd ever try to enforce IP locks for campaigns too, so I doubt they'd be able to address the hardcore PvP guilds that rotate faction fights based on guild events.
  • Tigor
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    Running already often in the same players, then I hear the sighing in the background. As if the outcomes are already decided before the start.
    GM - Decimation Elite - Ebonheart Pact - Cyrodiil - aka Tigor (AR50), Leopard Tank (AR50) , Captain-Caveman (AR50), Tigors Claw (AR50), -Bud Spencer (AR49+)
  • Jierdanit
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    Is this another "people are killing me so they must be cheating" thread?
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  • Tigor
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    It is about more fair outcomes.
    Edited by Tigor on 22 December 2024 12:04
    GM - Decimation Elite - Ebonheart Pact - Cyrodiil - aka Tigor (AR50), Leopard Tank (AR50) , Captain-Caveman (AR50), Tigors Claw (AR50), -Bud Spencer (AR49+)
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Tigor wrote: »
    Running already often in the same players, then I hear the sighing in the background. As if the outcomes are already decided before the start.

    The outcomes are generally fair, players who spend more time learning the game and theorycrafting setups etc will generally have better outcomes then those copying a setup and not understanding their characters.

    There are players who do cheat still playing, an example of which would be synergy macros which unfortunately some groups use and ZOS could do a better job of monitoring this.

    But also with the amount of players left playing cyrodiil you're always going to fight the same players these days without much variety of encounter.
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  • Tigor
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    I don't think that theorycrafting will do any good to the population in Cyrodiil as most players can't do it. On the rest I can agree @Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
    GM - Decimation Elite - Ebonheart Pact - Cyrodiil - aka Tigor (AR50), Leopard Tank (AR50) , Captain-Caveman (AR50), Tigors Claw (AR50), -Bud Spencer (AR49+)
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Tigor wrote: »
    I don't think that theorycrafting will do any good to the population in Cyrodiil as most players can't do it. On the rest I can agree

    The main aspect is more about making an effort to try and understand why choices are made. One of the biggest problems when trying to train newer players in group play for example is to teach them why different choices are made, rather than just sticking them in a setup and telling them to spam a button (not very effective).

    I think players could generally improve in this area even if they can't initially come up with the idea on what to run independently.
    There are a lot of tools to aid this (such as the combat log) and it should be a factor in determining combat outcomes.


    @Solar_Breeze
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  • LittlePinkDot
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    Tigor wrote: »
    Cyrodiil can't stay alive as long the cheating is not dealt with.

    Play on console instead of PC and you wouldn't have to worry about cheating
  • Tigor
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    Tigor wrote: »
    I don't think that theorycrafting will do any good to the population in Cyrodiil as most players can't do it. On the rest I can agree

    The main aspect is more about making an effort to try and understand why choices are made. One of the biggest problems when trying to train newer players in group play for example is to teach them why different choices are made, rather than just sticking them in a setup and telling them to spam a button (not very effective).

    I think players could generally improve in this area even if they can't initially come up with the idea on what to run independently.
    There are a lot of tools to aid this (such as the combat log) and it should be a factor in determining combat outcomes.


    I belief that tools for determining the best choices are not available for, or not familiar to everyone and that is the real unfair factor. Many players like to put there own creativity in the game. If that is not possible they are not feeling happy if opponents are using something Indescribable.
    GM - Decimation Elite - Ebonheart Pact - Cyrodiil - aka Tigor (AR50), Leopard Tank (AR50) , Captain-Caveman (AR50), Tigors Claw (AR50), -Bud Spencer (AR49+)
  • LittlePinkDot
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    Keep in mind in 2025 they said they're changing Cyrodiil so every class has their skills replaced with PvP specific skills.
    It's going to be ESO Call of Duty with proc sets.
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