Zheg wrote: »

Yep, EP dominated primetime last campaign. VE wasn't running much, CN left the game and it wasn't until this new campaign when their remnants started guard and we again had 3 guilds running almost nightly. Primetime looks very different now...............

Should our opinion matter? Probably not. But if youre going to be one of the few remaining pvp guild leaders, it's important to know when and how far to push. You've yet to see a campaign die because of gate camping, or it being the final straw for some players that leave the game altogether when compounded by the other pvp problems, but inexperience is no excuse when there are plenty of reds to teach you a bit of history.

awesome.

I am not sure who the new zergbads are that are dominating Trueflame, but it's forcing more and more of my peers to quit. I was in CN, now in guard and even guard members have left the game within the last few weeks for that craptastic BDO.

The "quality" of DC raid leads has plummeted with groups like Shadowgrabber running primetime now.

At some point, your faction needs to learn when to stop. Last night Hektiks groups chased me from their attack on glade (sorry but i cant recall which keep it was now, glade or ales) to 12:1 me. I was not defending the keep, I was far enough away from the keep to clearly make it known I was just around for small scale. I was going at it with German, so I don't understand the poor sportsmanship of actions like that. If they were playing objectives then why don't they recognize the non-threats (like the 1v1s, or 1vXers outside the keep radius) and leave us alone...?

The night prior to that the new zergbad raid of what appears to be 100 players rolling around in one giant red hurricane had about 30 people brake off and chase me from a glade resource to an Ales resource. If these guilds honestly cared about the quality of the campaign, then what was the objective or score advantage in chasing me for 10 minutes across the map?

** I had to come in and EDIT this. Normally I don't care about a death too much. But when Red flips the entire map and I gotta spend another 10 minutes on horseback riding back to where I was heading, it's a royal aggravation being on a very short play schedule.

We literally have 2 campaigns left that allow CPs, that should be indicative of the surviving PvP population. I would think a little more conservatively about your opponents before that becomes one campaign, and then an empty one (and by "you" I am not directing this at VE as you guys clearly "get it"). EP reminds me of the Hyenas from the cartoon The Lion King. You can spend your days in your packs of 100 running around eating all the zebra, but sooner than later you're going to starve yourselves.

zyk wrote: »

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

Put down the crack pipe mate - you wouldn't even survive our initial burst if that video is anything to go by. It would be a 5 second fight if K-Hole were hypothetically to stack with VE to fight your two stacked semi pug warbands on even terms. Thanks for the laughs though, this thread just keeps on delivering.

This is a big reason why ESO PVP is lame. Instead of having a rivalry with a guild of similar ability like Haxus, guilds like Khole seem to spend most of their time looking for lesser competition. Even on the forums, you have to come here and wave around your epeen in what had been a nice, civil thread.

In every single game, there is a wide range of knowledge, ability and enthusiasm across the playerbase. For many different reasons, not everyone can be among the best. That is a reality. There's no shame to losing to guilds as effective as Haxus, Khole, VE, etc.. But intentionally seeking out lesser competition and avoiding players actually on par with you? I'd call that pretty shameful.

Fascinating to read this tonight. A certain group of Ad were engaged in this very behavior tonight at DC lumber.