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How to counter Malubeth users in PvP.

  • sluice
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    1. Die
    2. Respawn elsewhere
    3. Come to the forum and complain
    4. Hope for ESO to fix this soon
    Edited by sluice on 27 July 2016 14:22
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  • Rohaus
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    Derra wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Fasalla + Reverberating bash + some points into befoul and GG! I currently am at 57% debuff just with Fasalla and when combined with Reverb, I am sitting close to 100% healing debuff.

    Fasalla is so amazing... if Malubeth did not exist, I'd say Fasalla would need to be nerfed a tad... as it stands right now, Fasalla IS the counter to Malubeth.

    GG

    A 5p set to counter a 2p set. Not balanced.

    Also magica builds have no access to a not class dependant major defile debuff.

    Last but not least: If it´s a dedicated healer the templar will actually never attack you resulting in fasallas never being applied.

    Fasalla is amazing regardless if we are talking about Malubeth or not. I wish I had gotten a set of it back when it was first released... 2 seconds was the thing about the set that I thought made it not good... but the reality is that 2 seconds is an eternity when it comes to PvP. Someone that goes to use their Rally, for instance, that big heal just got treated like a B... then they are forced to go completely defensive... and by then it's lights out.. NIGHT NIGHT!!
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  • Paraflex
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    i had this set in my bank for several months and last night was the first time I have ever used it. It's like having a pocket healer just for you. Procs multiple times super strong I had 15 people on me at one point and I survived for way to long. I kinda felt like I had a small emp buff to be honest.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Fasalla + Reverberating bash + some points into befoul and GG! I currently am at 57% debuff just with Fasalla and when combined with Reverb, I am sitting close to 100% healing debuff.

    Fasalla is so amazing... if Malubeth did not exist, I'd say Fasalla would need to be nerfed a tad... as it stands right now, Fasalla IS the counter to Malubeth.

    GG

    A 5p set to counter a 2p set. Not balanced.

    Also magica builds have no access to a not class dependant major defile debuff.

    Last but not least: If it´s a dedicated healer the templar will actually never attack you resulting in fasallas never being applied.

    Fasalla is amazing regardless if we are talking about Malubeth or not. I wish I had gotten a set of it back when it was first released... 2 seconds was the thing about the set that I thought made it not good... but the reality is that 2 seconds is an eternity when it comes to PvP. Someone that goes to use their Rally, for instance, that big heal just got treated like a B... then they are forced to go completely defensive... and by then it's lights out.. NIGHT NIGHT!!

    How does rally get big? At 33k stam and 3k ish wpn dmg, it says 800 per 2 sec.... or 400 in PvP in 2 secs... or 200 hps per sec. At 500% increase it becomes the same as Vigor. Wtf am I missing?
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  • sluice
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Fasalla + Reverberating bash + some points into befoul and GG! I currently am at 57% debuff just with Fasalla and when combined with Reverb, I am sitting close to 100% healing debuff.

    Fasalla is so amazing... if Malubeth did not exist, I'd say Fasalla would need to be nerfed a tad... as it stands right now, Fasalla IS the counter to Malubeth.

    GG

    A 5p set to counter a 2p set. Not balanced.

    Also magica builds have no access to a not class dependant major defile debuff.

    Last but not least: If it´s a dedicated healer the templar will actually never attack you resulting in fasallas never being applied.

    Fasalla is amazing regardless if we are talking about Malubeth or not. I wish I had gotten a set of it back when it was first released... 2 seconds was the thing about the set that I thought made it not good... but the reality is that 2 seconds is an eternity when it comes to PvP. Someone that goes to use their Rally, for instance, that big heal just got treated like a B... then they are forced to go completely defensive... and by then it's lights out.. NIGHT NIGHT!!

    How does rally get big? At 33k stam and 3k ish wpn dmg, it says 800 per 2 sec.... or 400 in PvP in 2 secs... or 200 hps per sec. At 500% increase it becomes the same as Vigor. Wtf am I missing?

    Wut?

    You don't know about Rally "burst heal?"

    When you re-cast Rally while it's already applied, you get a burst heal.
    The strength of the heal is relative to the amount of time Rally was active.
    The closer you are to the total duration of Rally (33 seconds), the bigger the heal.

    If you immediately re-cast Rally 5 seconds, it barely heals you.
    But, if you re-cast Rally when it's been on for the past 20-25 seconds, you will get a really nice heal.


    EDIT: if it wasn't for this "burst heal" somewhat on command, people would not be using Rally but Forward Momentum without any hesitation.
    Edited by sluice on 28 July 2016 18:34
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

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    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

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  • Waffennacht
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    sluice wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Fasalla + Reverberating bash + some points into befoul and GG! I currently am at 57% debuff just with Fasalla and when combined with Reverb, I am sitting close to 100% healing debuff.

    Fasalla is so amazing... if Malubeth did not exist, I'd say Fasalla would need to be nerfed a tad... as it stands right now, Fasalla IS the counter to Malubeth.

    GG

    A 5p set to counter a 2p set. Not balanced.

    Also magica builds have no access to a not class dependant major defile debuff.

    Last but not least: If it´s a dedicated healer the templar will actually never attack you resulting in fasallas never being applied.

    Fasalla is amazing regardless if we are talking about Malubeth or not. I wish I had gotten a set of it back when it was first released... 2 seconds was the thing about the set that I thought made it not good... but the reality is that 2 seconds is an eternity when it comes to PvP. Someone that goes to use their Rally, for instance, that big heal just got treated like a B... then they are forced to go completely defensive... and by then it's lights out.. NIGHT NIGHT!!

    How does rally get big? At 33k stam and 3k ish wpn dmg, it says 800 per 2 sec.... or 400 in PvP in 2 secs... or 200 hps per sec. At 500% increase it becomes the same as Vigor. Wtf am I missing?

    Wut?

    You don't know about Rally "burst heal?"

    When you re-cast Rally while it's already applied, you get a burst heal.
    The strength of the heal is relative to the amount of time Rally was active.
    The closer you are to the total duration of Rally (33 seconds), the bigger the heal.

    If you immediately re-cast Rally 5 seconds, it barely heals you.
    But, if you re-cast Rally when it's been on for the past 20-25 seconds, you will get a really nice heal.


    EDIT: if it wasn't for this "burst heal" somewhat on command, people would not be using Rally but Forward Momentum without any hesitation.

    Ah HA! I wasn't sure if that's how it worked... thanks buddy! Any idea on what time = what kind of heal?
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  • altemriel
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    oh I got to test out this Malubeth :smiley: , can I also buy it from the golden vendor in Cyro, or Telvar vendors in IC?

    I somehow got shoulders of this set, probably in IC or Cyro as drop.

  • Waffennacht
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    altemriel wrote: »
    oh I got to test out this Malubeth :smiley: , can I also buy it from the golden vendor in Cyro, or Telvar vendors in IC?

    I somehow got shoulders of this set, probably in IC or Cyro as drop.

    You can, no one knows when, but eventually.

    Edit: From the Golden
    Edited by Waffennacht on 28 July 2016 21:50
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