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How to counter Malubeth users in PvP.

  • Roechacca
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    glavius wrote: »
    Malubeth is no longer healing for 20k+ at least it never has for me and I'm using reactive, transmutation, malubeth and vampire. I still get killed all the time as a Templar support healer being focused on, only peeps that cant kill me are low cp and undergeared peeps.. My heals and Hots heal way more than malubeth does.

    Sure doesn't. And this is on a nb with just 12% increased healing........ Just keep defending it, completely broken. Being hit by force shock while afk will actually kill the attacker and not myself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ-PUfOXbcg

    Thank you for showing this evidence that if you stand like a potato and spam light attack in the beam, you will die. As clearly seen with streak in play, the beam is interrupted. If you stun the person wearing Malubeth, the beam is broke. If rolldodge back and put the swirlys on your toons feet, you get the effect.

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  • Hexys
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    Hexys wrote: »
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    How do you do it?

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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Nerf Malubeth , GG .

  • ZOS_PeterT
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    I think its safe to say everyone watches Game of Thrones!

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  • Hexys
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    When you play the Game of Thrones, you either slot Malubeth... or you die!
    Edited by Hexys on 20 July 2016 15:35
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  • Waffennacht
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    I've never watched game of thrones...

    Streak! It's a great malubeth counter :)

    It's more of a meta set imo. If majority of players were ranged/magicka builds, the effectiveness of malubeth would be greatly reduced. In a stam heavy melee environment malubeth rocks.

    In this meta, if I had it, I would run it. That 30% heal boost is almost worth it alone.
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    In this meta, if I had it, I would run it.

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  • glavius
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    glavius wrote: »
    Malubeth is no longer healing for 20k+ at least it never has for me and I'm using reactive, transmutation, malubeth and vampire. I still get killed all the time as a Templar support healer being focused on, only peeps that cant kill me are low cp and undergeared peeps.. My heals and Hots heal way more than malubeth does.

    Sure doesn't. And this is on a nb with just 12% increased healing........ Just keep defending it, completely broken. Being hit by force shock while afk will actually kill the attacker and not myself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ-PUfOXbcg

    Thank you for showing this evidence that if you stand like a potato and spam light attack in the beam, you will die. As clearly seen with streak in play, the beam is interrupted. If you stun the person wearing Malubeth, the beam is broke. If rolldodge back and put the swirlys on your toons feet, you get the effect.

    Don't potato kids. Know your role.

    25k healed over 4 seconds. Just think about it.....Just by slotting a 2 set piece. Plus it buffs all your other heals.
    And no the beam doesn't stop if you're stunned.

    Vigor heals like 10k over 5 seconds on a pretty high healing build in comparison. Costs stamina, can't be cast while cc'ed.

    If you think the set is fine, I don't know what to say......

  • Xvorg
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    I've never watched game of thrones...

    Streak! It's a great malubeth counter :)

    It's more of a meta set imo. If majority of players were ranged/magicka builds, the effectiveness of malubeth would be greatly reduced. In a stam heavy melee environment malubeth rocks.

    In this meta, if I had it, I would run it. That 30% heal boost is almost worth it alone.

    actually, cloak should be a good counter to malubeth... but... you know...

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  • dexylicious
    glavius wrote: »
    Malubeth is no longer healing for 20k+ at least it never has for me and I'm using reactive, transmutation, malubeth and vampire. I still get killed all the time as a Templar support healer being focused on, only peeps that cant kill me are low cp and undergeared peeps.. My heals and Hots heal way more than malubeth does.

    Sure doesn't. And this is on a nb with just 12% increased healing........ Just keep defending it, completely broken. Being hit by force shock while afk will actually kill the attacker and not myself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ-PUfOXbcg

    Wild, I have all into blessed and recovery and everything and my set never heals me that well, I actually got the set just to abuse it, but it's just not working for me like it is for you I even tried with all healing set and it was not healing me for those numbers, there must be a champion point or something that's affecting it like that, because I can't seem to pull it off on ps4.
  • dexylicious
    to be honest my 8,000 health regen healer destroys my malubeth healer when it comes to staying alive in pvp anyways.
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Oh, hi. I'm using Malu in Open-World myself and there's a few things that works:
    1) Break the beam, dodge roll backwards. Gap close away(neutral monster, another enemy..) and then gap close bk once beam is broken. Just get your distance.
    2) Major/Minor Defile. Poisons! Dark Flare. Reverb bash. Probably more stuff.
    3) Fasalla's.
    4) Burst. Don't give the beam a chance to proc :L
    5) Pray
    6) Pray
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    Note: I did not get to see the first posts nor the GoT-spoilers(it sucks anyway). Pls don't hate me if this thread was meant to something else :(!
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    Lokey0024 wrote: »
    Hold down ps4 button. Close application. Start up Dark Souls 3. Use Red Eye orb. Fight 3v1 there, no Malbeth. Easy

    Best solution.
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  • dexylicious
    I can't get it to heal for more than 1600 a tick, I think it needs buffs.
    https://youtu.be/VeBtlrwux8I


  • RajinPVP
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    They really need to put a cooldown on how it proc or atleast take out the leaching effect when it procs .. They can keep the healing buff as is!
  • dexylicious
    It must get modified by weapon damage or something because I tried adding healing taken gear and used a 30% increased healing taken pot and it was ticking for less.. this set makes no sense.
  • NBrookus
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    I ran it tonight on my DK. Reviewed my logs frequently and the biggest heal was 1600 with Major Mending up.

    I wonder if the big ticks being reported might be templar related?
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    Roechacca wrote: »
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    Hope you having major and minor defile available on your build.

    Hope your not a templar because jabs = 100% malubeth uptime.

    Get told it's 'balanced' by forum warriors who use it

    DarkFlare, Reverberating Bash, Radient Destruction.

    Templars are capable.

    Jabs = Stamina
    Sweeps = Magicka.

    I'm not s+b.

    Even better. Roll dodge, burst dps, rinse repeat.

    I know but theres been so many fights where someone is 30%~ and starts rolling and all my jabs which should hit start missing...

    I'm i can't help but think if i was a magicka templar you'd be dead, ether via sweeps finishing you and from casting beam once.

    I did swap around mine to Synozeer's build when I came back. I knew the new meta changed. Stuns, snares, Malubeth tank healers, Negate spamming Sorcs. It's always adapt or die here. I've seen stamplars win vs Malubeth though. I haven't been on mine in a while.

    Negate costs 200 ult

    Yep, totally spammable

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    Hexys wrote: »
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    How do you do it?

    Kill them.
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    It's funny how a 'troll-post' turned into this. XD

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  • Paraflex
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    This set needs to be dealt with its used by everyone and no one ever dies this set is a problem in pvp
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  • Hexys
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    Paraflex wrote: »
    This set needs to be dealt with its used by everyone and no one ever dies this set is a problem in pvp

    Exactly, that's why I refered to Game of Thrones in my first edited post, as in that show it's the opposite and how it should be!
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  • Paraflex
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    On ps4 NA everyone is using this set its a complete joke right now to even Pvp
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  • Dredlord
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    bigereard wrote: »
    Fasalla + Major Defile + Minor Defile + 100 point on Befoul = Win

    FYI total is 117% healing recieved reduction exclude 50% from Battle Spirit

    Isn't healing reduction not additive, If you go over 100% reduction than healing would hurt them or do 0.

    Also being forced to use s+b, a 5 piece set, 100 cp points and a enchant proc in order to counter a 2 piece set isn't the answer...

    how can you continuously be so short sighted?

    It's not the only setup that can counter Malu and you're definitely not forced to wear it.

    Maybe the other poster made a snap judgement about your skill and suggested what he thought you needed to counter it?
  • Paraflex
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    This set at some point will be ran by 100% of the players if they don't make adjustments to this set. Personally I'd rather no one use this than everyone runs with it.
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  • glavius
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    glavius wrote: »
    Malubeth is no longer healing for 20k+ at least it never has for me and I'm using reactive, transmutation, malubeth and vampire. I still get killed all the time as a Templar support healer being focused on, only peeps that cant kill me are low cp and undergeared peeps.. My heals and Hots heal way more than malubeth does.

    Sure doesn't. And this is on a nb with just 12% increased healing........ Just keep defending it, completely broken. Being hit by force shock while afk will actually kill the attacker and not myself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ-PUfOXbcg

    Wild, I have all into blessed and recovery and everything and my set never heals me that well, I actually got the set just to abuse it, but it's just not working for me like it is for you I even tried with all healing set and it was not healing me for those numbers, there must be a champion point or something that's affecting it like that, because I can't seem to pull it off on ps4.

    Sometimes it heals for 700-1000 per tick, sometimes 3k, sometimes 5k. Completely random.
  • Valencer
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    Paraflex wrote: »
    This set at some point will be ran by 100% of the players if they don't make adjustments to this set. Personally I'd rather no one use this than everyone runs with it.

    It will be worn by the majority of the PvP playerbase at some point, then it will be nerfed into the ground and be totally useless for a long time until it's finally buffed up a bit so it's actually a viable choice.

    This is exactly what happened to skoria. Just wait for it.
  • a1i3nz
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    You post about it on the forums. Then after a salty crust has formed around your post, ZOS will nerf whatever it was about.
    Edited by a1i3nz on 21 July 2016 07:42
  • Paraflex
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    Valencer wrote: »
    Paraflex wrote: »
    This set at some point will be ran by 100% of the players if they don't make adjustments to this set. Personally I'd rather no one use this than everyone runs with it.

    It will be worn by the majority of the PvP playerbase at some point, then it will be nerfed into the ground and be totally useless for a long time until it's finally buffed up a bit so it's actually a viable choice.

    This is exactly what happened to skoria. Just wait for it.

    That maybe true but Skoria isn't a major problem right now. Skoria is right where it needs to be works for certain builds and maybe 10% of the population runs it. Primarily pve players use it. I hope they nerf this set as its just being abused by everyone.
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  • Paraflex
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    This set is just makes healing to easy. Whats the point in running a healer in a pvp group when you can all run self heals and malubeth. Works when you get knocked down and always keeps you in a fight.
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