So, 130 in Queue...

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

It was a large number of the Beta guilds going to AD. Multiple streamers (see Angry Joe) also picked AD and played up, repeatedly, that the AD questing was easier and faster.

Xallus · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

It was a large number of the Beta guilds going to AD. Multiple streamers (see Angry Joe) also picked AD and played up, repeatedly, that the AD questing was easier and faster.

Agreed, most of the authorized beta footage was AD. Even in beta AD had the most pop. Not really relevant, but I also found the AD also had the most intriguing quests, like you actually want to hear the quest dialogue rather than click click click...

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Wow! I don't PvP all that much really. A few times a month. So whatever.

But I must have REALLY pinched a nerve here with some people. A lot of pent up anger. Maybe you should seek a therapist. Life's too short.

It all makes sense now. I don't think anyone is particularly angry with you, just trying to figure out if we're being trolled or communicate our shock at your ignorance. PvP'ing a few times a month would point to the latter.

For about 1/3 of the day, all populations are locked, AD can do nothing without another side pushing the same direction as them, whether it be EP or DC, doesn't matter. 1/6 of the day after prime-time US and 1/6 before, 3 bars AD 2 bars EP/DC. The other 1/3 of the day, during oceanic, 2 sometimes 3 bars AD, 1 bar EP/DC.

From what I've heard each pop bar is 75 population or less.

Columba · October 2014

balberith wrote: »

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

I am in AD.

AND we've had two server crashes (as in, everyone gets kicked out) within the last hour.

ZOS, you really, really need to get your acts together already.

You need to tell a certain AD skeleton impulse group to cut the crap.

Agreed. Skilless clowncar play that wrecks any fun from pvp. Pathetic.

LonePirate · October 2014

Xallus wrote: »

For about 1/3 of the day, all populations are locked, AD can do nothing without another side pushing the same direction as them, whether it be EP or DC, doesn't matter. 1/6 of the day after prime-time US and 1/6 before, 3 bars AD 2 bars EP/DC. The other 1/3 of the day, during oceanic, 2 sometimes 3 bars AD, 1 bar EP/DC.

From what I've heard each pop bar is 75 population or less.

You're off on your pop count time frames, at least during the week on Thornblade NA. On weekdays, AD is pop locked at least 8-12 hours a day, with 3 bars for another 8-10 hours and 2 bars for the remaining hours. DC and EP have had their numbers jumbled lately, especially since the end of the most recent Thornblade campaign. EP is pop locked 3-4 hours per day while DC is locked 2-3 hours per day. EP is at 3 bars for maybe 2 hours a day while DC is at 3 bars for 4-5 hours per day. Both factions are 2 bars 6-8 hours per day, possibly a little longer for DC. They are both 1 bar pops for 8-10 hours a day usually. All pops are higher (or longer) on the weekends.

These are simply my crude estimates based on my observations. I welcome input from others that support or refute what I have seen. There is almost no denying the huge population advantage AD has outside of NA prime time.

OrangeTheCat · October 2014

Xallus wrote: »

It all makes sense now. I don't think anyone is particularly angry with you, just trying to figure out if we're being trolled or communicate our shock at your ignorance. PvP'ing a few times a month would point to the latter.

For about 1/3 of the day, all populations are locked, AD can do nothing without another side pushing the same direction as them, whether it be EP or DC, doesn't matter. 1/6 of the day after prime-time US and 1/6 before, 3 bars AD 2 bars EP/DC. The other 1/3 of the day, during oceanic, 2 sometimes 3 bars AD, 1 bar EP/DC.

From what I've heard each pop bar is 75 population or less.

Then I am ignorant. I only play PvP for one or two hours at a stretch, a couple times a week (at most) in the evenings western US coastal time; on weekends possibly longer. The population icons are always locks. Always. Long queue for AD and before this thread fiasco, I always assumed long queues for the other factions too. Why wouldn't I? My friends in the other factions say as much. Hence, my initial astonishment at why the other 30 day campaign has no people in it.

I have a life. A job. A spouse. A child. Friends. So I don't have the time to monitor the wax and wane of the server population on an hourly basis for a particular campaign like some here seem to have. All I care about is that when I get in-game there is someone to fight (and there always is). Doesn't matter what happens during off hours or even if my faction "wins" at the end of 30 days. I just want some good fights. In fact, when the map is mostly red/blue then that often corresponds to some of the most fun.

Xallus · October 2014

I have all those things too, the hate in this thread is that your faction will always win, because of population in the hours you don't play. I'd love to see when the map has been red, though I could see blue, during triple locked primetime.

OrangeTheCat · October 2014

Xallus wrote: »

I have all those things too, the hate in this thread is that your faction will always win, because of population in the hours you don't play. I'd love to see when the map has been red, though I could see blue, during triple locked primetime.

Yes, I felt that I was being "hated" against simply because I was AD which, as I've explained before, I was since pre-release before any of this imbalance began (and I'm not implicitly acknowledging that there is any significant imbalance because there certainly is not during "triple locked primetime" and I am not around to observe for myself during other times and I learned long ago not to trust much of anything anyone says online). Call it "cyber-prejudice" if you will.

And anyone, and I do mean anyone, who chooses to lash out, make fallacious arguments, exaggerate beyond all reason, be insulting and/or inflammatory, or otherwise "troll" me will always get from me a relentless response. I think this thread proves that. No excuse for bullying on the forums and I strongly encourage anyone else who feels the same to act in a similar manner; it's the only way to bring people in line.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

I have all those things too, the hate in this thread is that your faction will always win, because of population in the hours you don't play. I'd love to see when the map has been red, though I could see blue, during triple locked primetime.

Yes, I felt that I was being "hated" against simply because I was AD which, as I've explained before, I was since pre-release before any of this imbalance began (and I'm not implicitly acknowledging that there is any significant imbalance because there certainly is not during "triple locked primetime" and I am not around to observe for myself during other times and I learned long ago not to trust much of anything anyone says online). Call it "cyber-prejudice" if you will.

And anyone, and I do mean anyone, who chooses to lash out, make fallacious arguments, exaggerate beyond all reason, be insulting and/or inflammatory, or otherwise "troll" me will always get from me a relentless response. I think this thread proves that. No excuse for bullying on the forums and I strongly encourage anyone else who feels the same to act in a similar manner; it's the only way to bring people in line.

No amount of 'I was always AD so I'm sticking to it' will fix the population imbalances in game.

Be as aggressive as you like, it doesn't change the realities of the situation.

If you want quick access to Thornblade, without the ridiculous queue, you will need to reroll.

Deal with it or don't. Your call.

OrangeTheCat · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

snip

No amount of 'I was always AD so I'm sticking to it' will fix the population imbalances in game.

Be as aggressive as you like, it doesn't change the realities of the situation.

If you want quick access to Thornblade, without the ridiculous queue, you will need to reroll.

Deal with it or don't. Your call.

You know what? No, I won't. I'll wait to see if/when ZOS allows us to change faction without having to slog/grind our way back to VR14. If they do, then I will gladly switch factions. In the mean time, I will continue to go AD and kick all your arses with our supposedly overwhelming (some say triple everyone else) numbers during "triple pop lock" times (which is when I PvP) and I will think of you, and smile, and if I find your corpse on the battlefield, I'll rake you just for kicks.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

snip

No amount of 'I was always AD so I'm sticking to it' will fix the population imbalances in game.

Be as aggressive as you like, it doesn't change the realities of the situation.

If you want quick access to Thornblade, without the ridiculous queue, you will need to reroll.

Deal with it or don't. Your call.

You know what? No, I won't. I'll wait to see if/when ZOS allows us to change faction without having to slog/grind our way back to VR14. If they do, then I will gladly switch factions. In the mean time, I will continue to go AD and kick all your arses with our supposedly overwhelming (some say triple everyone else) numbers during "triple pop lock" times (which is when I PvP) and I will think of you, and smile, and if I find your corpse on the battlefield, I'll rake you just for kicks.

Bring it, random anonymous person on the forums. There is nothing you can even try to do to me that better haven't already done. I hold zero fear or concern for someone who doesn't even identify their toon.

The problem's always been with off hours, never prime time during the triple lock. That's when it's fair, but laggy as hell.

If you can't look past your own, personal experiences, then... that's just your failure. Might look into that as a personal growth area.

Aoe_Barbecue · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

snip

No amount of 'I was always AD so I'm sticking to it' will fix the population imbalances in game.

Be as aggressive as you like, it doesn't change the realities of the situation.

If you want quick access to Thornblade, without the ridiculous queue, you will need to reroll.

Deal with it or don't. Your call.

You know what? No, I won't. I'll wait to see if/when ZOS allows us to change faction without having to slog/grind our way back to VR14. If they do, then I will gladly switch factions. In the mean time, I will continue to go AD and kick all your arses with our supposedly overwhelming (some say triple everyone else) numbers during "triple pop lock" times (which is when I PvP) and I will think of you, and smile, and if I find your corpse on the battlefield, I'll rake you just for kicks.

AD is either pushed back to home trio of keeps due to having 1 or more of either factions' scrolls during primetime, or if that isn't the case, usually fight back and forth between Ash and Roe or Alessia and Blue Road. It's pretty much even during primetime.

The issue isn't during primetime. It's that AD has more on during more time zones.

OrangeTheCat · October 2014

My toon name is "OrangeTheCat". See you there.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

My toon name is "OrangeTheCat". See you there.

I'll try to pick you out from the normal sea of yellow.

Erock25 · October 2014

Funny reading all these all day ESO players suggesting to re-roll. "It only took me 30 hours total!" they say. Well yeah, that is about one month of play time for me so no thank you. Much rather spend that month playing my main character.

Durham · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

I am going to assume you are AD because the highest queue I've heard of for DC is about 50. I personally have never been in a queue over 20.

Reroll, friend ;D

No ... people will quit ... I have no connection to AD personally. MY guild would prefer to be allowed to switch sides for 30 days or even 90 days.. We hate the Qs .. Most of us are 30+ and cant handle a regrind. I will not re-invest all the time i have in new toons.. I work,married, and have kids so doing the grind is out of the question would take way to long.....

Last night 90 in Q ...
48 minutes later in PVP
PVP 5 minutes later crash to desk top .. but was able to log back into pvp..
15 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes in Q faster Q this time...
40 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes Q ...log back in crash to desktop
Back in Q 50 minutes lol.
After 1:30 am no more crashes or server resets..
But all in all horrid night for PVP....*

The solution is in your hands, but you refuse to use it.

Then suffer.

No i will not suffer i will quit playing... but not just me but thousands have and will... and when they do you will suffer because new content will stop because of lack of funds ... game starts to spiral... Not sure if you really read my post but its not just the long Qs....

serenenightmare wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

I have NEVER had to wait to get into pvp while in EP.

Oh wait thats because there is no balance in pvp pops... p.s well deserved wins AD..... sarcasm

Pretty much, and what the OP is forgetting in his proposal is that he is part of the most heavily populated faction. So his division of the factions just makes two servers where AD wins, and more than likely even easier... because the opposing factions that are 1-2 bars at most 12 hours a day on Thorn... are now halved.

Who wants to play when if you log on your faction has 20 people total on vs 75+ AD? Not a soul, more ppl would quit and eventually turn cyrodil into a 1 day event for AD, followed by endless scout enemy keep quests to get tier 3.

The most reasonable fix for your issue with long queues is to re-roll.

Forcing people to reroll to balance will make tons of people quit.
. To many are people are attached to guilds and friends ... This solution will kill my medium size guild.. Allowing us to switch to red and blue would be the best solution... After you have completed the oposing realms quest in the VR level we should be able to switch sides for an extended time...

If you know the leveling spots, you can easily be vr14 in 5 days. Easy, maybe even less if you don't have much on your plate outside of the game.

Do you enjoy fighting two factions who aren't poplocked? Yes? Then rerolling is not for you. Move on, nothing to see here.

Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Durham · October 2014

Durham wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

I am going to assume you are AD because the highest queue I've heard of for DC is about 50. I personally have never been in a queue over 20.

Reroll, friend ;D

No ... people will quit ... I have no connection to AD personally. MY guild would prefer to be allowed to switch sides for 30 days or even 90 days.. We hate the Qs .. Most of us are 30+ and cant handle a regrind. I will not re-invest all the time i have in new toons.. I work,married, and have kids so doing the grind is out of the question would take way to long.....

Last night 90 in Q ...
48 minutes later in PVP
PVP 5 minutes later crash to desk top .. but was able to log back into pvp..
15 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes in Q faster Q this time...
40 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes Q ...log back in crash to desktop
Back in Q 50 minutes lol.
After 1:30 am no more crashes or server resets..
But all in all horrid night for PVP....*

The solution is in your hands, but you refuse to use it.

Then suffer.

No i will not suffer i will quit playing... but not just me but thousands have and will... and when they do you will suffer because new content will stop because of lack of funds ... game starts to spiral... Not sure if you really read my post but its not just the long Qs....

serenenightmare wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

I have NEVER had to wait to get into pvp while in EP.

Oh wait thats because there is no balance in pvp pops... p.s well deserved wins AD..... sarcasm

Pretty much, and what the OP is forgetting in his proposal is that he is part of the most heavily populated faction. So his division of the factions just makes two servers where AD wins, and more than likely even easier... because the opposing factions that are 1-2 bars at most 12 hours a day on Thorn... are now halved.

Who wants to play when if you log on your faction has 20 people total on vs 75+ AD? Not a soul, more ppl would quit and eventually turn cyrodil into a 1 day event for AD, followed by endless scout enemy keep quests to get tier 3.

The most reasonable fix for your issue with long queues is to re-roll.

Forcing people to reroll to balance will make tons of people quit.
. To many are people are attached to guilds and friends ... This solution will kill my medium size guild.. Allowing us to switch to red and blue would be the best solution... After you have completed the oposing realms quest in the VR level we should be able to switch sides for an extended time...

If you know the leveling spots, you can easily be vr14 in 5 days. Easy, maybe even less if you don't have much on your plate outside of the game.

Do you enjoy fighting two factions who aren't poplocked? Yes? Then rerolling is not for you. Move on, nothing to see here.

Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

By the way the other two are pop locked when Im online .. They are at 90% ... usually and they are ganging up on yellow .. which is a good thing in my book... I can handle the q but i cant handle the server reset or crash that puts me back in it...

Durham · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

I have NEVER had to wait to get into pvp while in EP.

Oh wait thats because there is no balance in pvp pops... p.s well deserved wins AD..... sarcasm

Pretty much, and what the OP is forgetting in his proposal is that he is part of the most heavily populated faction. So his division of the factions just makes two servers where AD wins, and more than likely even easier... because the opposing factions that are 1-2 bars at most 12 hours a day on Thorn... are now halved.

Who wants to play when if you log on your faction has 20 people total on vs 75+ AD? Not a soul, more ppl would quit and eventually turn cyrodil into a 1 day event for AD, followed by endless scout enemy keep quests to get tier 3.

The most reasonable fix for your issue with long queues is to re-roll.

Forcing people to reroll to balance will make tons of people quit.
. To many are people are attached to guilds and friends ... This solution will kill my medium size guild.. Allowing us to switch to red and blue would be the best solution... After you have completed the oposing realms quest in the VR level we should be able to switch sides for an extended time...

If you know the leveling spots, you can easily be vr14 in 5 days. Easy, maybe even less if you don't have much on your plate outside of the game.

Do you enjoy fighting two factions who aren't poplocked? Yes? Then rerolling is not for you. Move on, nothing to see here.

And frankly, for the health of the game, it's better if the AD players quit if they don't reroll.

Isn't is awful that its reached that state?

It shouldn't be at this point, but it is. ZOS should step in and implement some sort of gentle population control mechanic.

They haven't, and if history is any indicator, by the time they do it will be too late.

That AD players have to either reroll, quit, or not participate in PVP to make it healthier sucks. I agree.

Them's the breaks. It does suck, and there's not a thing about it sucking that changes that it must be done to keep the game alive and healthy.

My guild would happily move to red or blue..but i will not reroll by myself...

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Durham wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

I am going to assume you are AD because the highest queue I've heard of for DC is about 50. I personally have never been in a queue over 20.

Reroll, friend ;D

No ... people will quit ... I have no connection to AD personally. MY guild would prefer to be allowed to switch sides for 30 days or even 90 days.. We hate the Qs .. Most of us are 30+ and cant handle a regrind. I will not re-invest all the time i have in new toons.. I work,married, and have kids so doing the grind is out of the question would take way to long.....

Last night 90 in Q ...
48 minutes later in PVP
PVP 5 minutes later crash to desk top .. but was able to log back into pvp..
15 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes in Q faster Q this time...
40 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes Q ...log back in crash to desktop
Back in Q 50 minutes lol.
After 1:30 am no more crashes or server resets..
But all in all horrid night for PVP....*

The solution is in your hands, but you refuse to use it.

Then suffer.

No i will not suffer i will quit playing... but not just me but thousands have and will... and when they do you will suffer because new content will stop because of lack of funds ... game starts to spiral... Not sure if you really read my post but its not just the long Qs....

serenenightmare wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

I have NEVER had to wait to get into pvp while in EP.

Oh wait thats because there is no balance in pvp pops... p.s well deserved wins AD..... sarcasm

Pretty much, and what the OP is forgetting in his proposal is that he is part of the most heavily populated faction. So his division of the factions just makes two servers where AD wins, and more than likely even easier... because the opposing factions that are 1-2 bars at most 12 hours a day on Thorn... are now halved.

Who wants to play when if you log on your faction has 20 people total on vs 75+ AD? Not a soul, more ppl would quit and eventually turn cyrodil into a 1 day event for AD, followed by endless scout enemy keep quests to get tier 3.

The most reasonable fix for your issue with long queues is to re-roll.

Forcing people to reroll to balance will make tons of people quit.
. To many are people are attached to guilds and friends ... This solution will kill my medium size guild.. Allowing us to switch to red and blue would be the best solution... After you have completed the oposing realms quest in the VR level we should be able to switch sides for an extended time...

If you know the leveling spots, you can easily be vr14 in 5 days. Easy, maybe even less if you don't have much on your plate outside of the game.

Do you enjoy fighting two factions who aren't poplocked? Yes? Then rerolling is not for you. Move on, nothing to see here.

Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Suffer the loss of investment into this game, then.

Suffer the cost of investing into a new game - financially and time wise.

Suffer the loss of the game when it closes.

If many, many AD cannot be bothered to reroll because:

1. It's too haaaaard.
2. It's too booooooorrring
3. I like the faction mooooooooore
4. I have other trivial reasoooooons
5. Or anything else, really

Then the PVP in this game will die like all the other campaigns have died. The PVP population is a fraction of what it used to be, and it's getting smaller with each patch.

We're already suffering through the sheer incompetence on the technical side of things thanks to ZOS. Adding the population imbalance into it and the ridiculous faction stacking of AD only exacerbates it.

We can't fix the technical issues, but the playerbase CAN fix the population issues, but it won't because...

It's too haaaaaaaaaaard.

Then suffer.

Durham · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

I am going to assume you are AD because the highest queue I've heard of for DC is about 50. I personally have never been in a queue over 20.

Reroll, friend ;D

No ... people will quit ... I have no connection to AD personally. MY guild would prefer to be allowed to switch sides for 30 days or even 90 days.. We hate the Qs .. Most of us are 30+ and cant handle a regrind. I will not re-invest all the time i have in new toons.. I work,married, and have kids so doing the grind is out of the question would take way to long.....

Last night 90 in Q ...
48 minutes later in PVP
PVP 5 minutes later crash to desk top .. but was able to log back into pvp..
15 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes in Q faster Q this time...
40 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes Q ...log back in crash to desktop
Back in Q 50 minutes lol.
After 1:30 am no more crashes or server resets..
But all in all horrid night for PVP....*

The solution is in your hands, but you refuse to use it.

Then suffer.

No i will not suffer i will quit playing... but not just me but thousands have and will... and when they do you will suffer because new content will stop because of lack of funds ... game starts to spiral... Not sure if you really read my post but its not just the long Qs....

serenenightmare wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

I have NEVER had to wait to get into pvp while in EP.

Oh wait thats because there is no balance in pvp pops... p.s well deserved wins AD..... sarcasm

Pretty much, and what the OP is forgetting in his proposal is that he is part of the most heavily populated faction. So his division of the factions just makes two servers where AD wins, and more than likely even easier... because the opposing factions that are 1-2 bars at most 12 hours a day on Thorn... are now halved.

Who wants to play when if you log on your faction has 20 people total on vs 75+ AD? Not a soul, more ppl would quit and eventually turn cyrodil into a 1 day event for AD, followed by endless scout enemy keep quests to get tier 3.

The most reasonable fix for your issue with long queues is to re-roll.

Forcing people to reroll to balance will make tons of people quit.
. To many are people are attached to guilds and friends ... This solution will kill my medium size guild.. Allowing us to switch to red and blue would be the best solution... After you have completed the oposing realms quest in the VR level we should be able to switch sides for an extended time...

If you know the leveling spots, you can easily be vr14 in 5 days. Easy, maybe even less if you don't have much on your plate outside of the game.

Do you enjoy fighting two factions who aren't poplocked? Yes? Then rerolling is not for you. Move on, nothing to see here.

Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Suffer the loss of investment into this game, then.

Suffer the cost of investing into a new game - financially and time wise.

Suffer the loss of the game when it closes.

If many, many AD cannot be bothered to reroll because:

1. It's too haaaaard.
2. It's too booooooorrring
3. I like the faction mooooooooore
4. I have other trivial reasoooooons
5. Or anything else, really

Then the PVP in this game will die like all the other campaigns have died. The PVP population is a fraction of what it used to be, and it's getting smaller with each patch.

We're already suffering through the sheer incompetence on the technical side of things thanks to ZOS. Adding the population imbalance into it and the ridiculous faction stacking of AD only exacerbates it.

We can't fix the technical issues, but the playerbase CAN fix the population issues, but it won't because...

It's too haaaaaaaaaaard.

Then suffer.

Its not going to happen ... everyone will suffer in the end sorry to say it...

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

Durham wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

serenenightmare wrote: »

I am going to assume you are AD because the highest queue I've heard of for DC is about 50. I personally have never been in a queue over 20.

Reroll, friend ;D

No ... people will quit ... I have no connection to AD personally. MY guild would prefer to be allowed to switch sides for 30 days or even 90 days.. We hate the Qs .. Most of us are 30+ and cant handle a regrind. I will not re-invest all the time i have in new toons.. I work,married, and have kids so doing the grind is out of the question would take way to long.....

Last night 90 in Q ...
48 minutes later in PVP
PVP 5 minutes later crash to desk top .. but was able to log back into pvp..
15 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes in Q faster Q this time...
40 minutes later server crash kicked from PVP
15 minutes Q ...log back in crash to desktop
Back in Q 50 minutes lol.
After 1:30 am no more crashes or server resets..
But all in all horrid night for PVP....*

The solution is in your hands, but you refuse to use it.

Then suffer.

No i will not suffer i will quit playing... but not just me but thousands have and will... and when they do you will suffer because new content will stop because of lack of funds ... game starts to spiral... Not sure if you really read my post but its not just the long Qs....

serenenightmare wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Xallus wrote: »

Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »

I have NEVER had to wait to get into pvp while in EP.

Oh wait thats because there is no balance in pvp pops... p.s well deserved wins AD..... sarcasm

Pretty much, and what the OP is forgetting in his proposal is that he is part of the most heavily populated faction. So his division of the factions just makes two servers where AD wins, and more than likely even easier... because the opposing factions that are 1-2 bars at most 12 hours a day on Thorn... are now halved.

Who wants to play when if you log on your faction has 20 people total on vs 75+ AD? Not a soul, more ppl would quit and eventually turn cyrodil into a 1 day event for AD, followed by endless scout enemy keep quests to get tier 3.

The most reasonable fix for your issue with long queues is to re-roll.

Forcing people to reroll to balance will make tons of people quit.
. To many are people are attached to guilds and friends ... This solution will kill my medium size guild.. Allowing us to switch to red and blue would be the best solution... After you have completed the oposing realms quest in the VR level we should be able to switch sides for an extended time...

If you know the leveling spots, you can easily be vr14 in 5 days. Easy, maybe even less if you don't have much on your plate outside of the game.

Do you enjoy fighting two factions who aren't poplocked? Yes? Then rerolling is not for you. Move on, nothing to see here.

Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Suffer the loss of investment into this game, then.

Suffer the cost of investing into a new game - financially and time wise.

Suffer the loss of the game when it closes.

If many, many AD cannot be bothered to reroll because:

1. It's too haaaaard.
2. It's too booooooorrring
3. I like the faction mooooooooore
4. I have other trivial reasoooooons
5. Or anything else, really

Then the PVP in this game will die like all the other campaigns have died. The PVP population is a fraction of what it used to be, and it's getting smaller with each patch.

We're already suffering through the sheer incompetence on the technical side of things thanks to ZOS. Adding the population imbalance into it and the ridiculous faction stacking of AD only exacerbates it.

We can't fix the technical issues, but the playerbase CAN fix the population issues, but it won't because...

It's too haaaaaaaaaaard.

Then suffer.

Its not going to happen ... everyone will suffer in the end sorry to say it...

I know. But I'm not going to sugar coat it due to a few fee fees getting hurt.

Durham · October 2014

/agree and understand ...I wish they would communicate with us or throw us in pvp a bone... It just kills me to see the pvp potential of this game but its being ran into the ground...
1. Communication is the worst of any MMORPG I have played almost no reaction to the community with problems...
2. Game performance is horrid in pvp...

Poxheart · October 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

Funny reading all these all day ESO players suggesting to re-roll. "It only took me 30 hours total!" they say. Well yeah, that is about one month of play time for me so no thank you. Much rather spend that month playing my main character.

I play during evenings after work. I leveled my Nightblade to 50 in one week's play time and to VR12 (before the level increase) in another week's play time. The hardest part about power leveling a new character is staying awake while grinding XP.

OrangeTheCat · October 2014

Durham wrote: »

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Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Right. Asking a bunch of AD to re-roll, join a different faction, and spend a minimum (supposedly) of 30 hours to grind to VR14 is about as preposterous as asking DC/EP to take responsibility for their own problems and do what it takes to defend their own keeps -- stay up later, get online earlier, keep tabs on their keeps, and jump in and defend them as necessary (assuming preserving their territory really does matter to them). Say, there's an idea. After all, EP/DC aren't a bunch of "fee fees getting hurt" (whatever a "fee fee" is; I'm sure that was meant as an insinuated insult).

Beega · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

At the end of the next campaign kick everyone from their home server and randomly assign them a new home server: 50% chance on AS, 50% on TB.

This will not work with guilds, groups and friends who do daily/weekly raids.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

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Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Right. Asking a bunch of AD to re-roll, join a different faction, and spend a minimum (supposedly) of 30 hours to grind to VR14 is about as preposterous as asking DC/EP to take responsibility for their own problems and do what it takes to defend their own keeps -- stay up later, get online earlier, keep tabs on their keeps, and jump in and defend them as necessary (assuming preserving their territory really does matter to them). Say, there's an idea. After all, EP/DC aren't a bunch of "fee fees getting hurt" (whatever a "fee fee" is; I'm sure that was meant as an insinuated insult).

Your proposals are utterly ridiculous.

I am asking that AD spend time they are already spending on the game rerolling their characters. Why? Because the game needs it to survive.

You are asking EP/DC to cut short on RL activities that are necessary for day to day function to play a video game longer to make up for population imbalances.

a) Already tried. Not enough AD/DC can make the commitment to matter.
b) RL comes first. I'm not losing any more sleep than I need to over this, nor am I taking time out of my work schedule (because that's when a lot of this stuff happens, when people are at work/school).

You really have no inkling of what's actually happening, do you?

Durham · October 2014

Honestly this issue is the smaller of the biggest issue that is the performance of pvp in large battles... server crashes, game crashes, ability lag , lag in general...

If they did balance everything everyone would have a q because no one is using the overflow servers....

OrangeTheCat · October 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

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Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Right. Asking a bunch of AD to re-roll, join a different faction, and spend a minimum (supposedly) of 30 hours to grind to VR14 is about as preposterous as asking DC/EP to take responsibility for their own problems and do what it takes to defend their own keeps -- stay up later, get online earlier, keep tabs on their keeps, and jump in and defend them as necessary (assuming preserving their territory really does matter to them). Say, there's an idea. After all, EP/DC aren't a bunch of "fee fees getting hurt" (whatever a "fee fee" is; I'm sure that was meant as an insinuated insult).

Your proposals are utterly ridiculous.

I am asking that AD spend time they are already spending on the game rerolling their characters. Why? Because the game needs it to survive.

You are asking EP/DC to cut short on RL activities that are necessary for day to day function to play a video game longer to make up for population imbalances.

a) Already tried. Not enough AD/DC can make the commitment to matter.
b) RL comes first. I'm not losing any more sleep than I need to over this, nor am I taking time out of my work schedule (because that's when a lot of this stuff happens, when people are at work/school).

You really have no inkling of what's actually happening, do you?

I did say it was preposterous.

But if you don't agree that it's preposterous and if it matters to you so much, fix your own problems. It's within your faction's powerful do so and your success might even attract new players to your side. But if it's too inconvenient for you, then don't or hope that ZOS will fix them for you.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

OrangeTheCat wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

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Its not just me i have guild mates that will have to go to.. This is the issue for me we are casual players and many will not do it... many of the responses are simply stupid ...if people quit it hurts everyones game eventually....

Right. Asking a bunch of AD to re-roll, join a different faction, and spend a minimum (supposedly) of 30 hours to grind to VR14 is about as preposterous as asking DC/EP to take responsibility for their own problems and do what it takes to defend their own keeps -- stay up later, get online earlier, keep tabs on their keeps, and jump in and defend them as necessary (assuming preserving their territory really does matter to them). Say, there's an idea. After all, EP/DC aren't a bunch of "fee fees getting hurt" (whatever a "fee fee" is; I'm sure that was meant as an insinuated insult).

Your proposals are utterly ridiculous.

I am asking that AD spend time they are already spending on the game rerolling their characters. Why? Because the game needs it to survive.

You are asking EP/DC to cut short on RL activities that are necessary for day to day function to play a video game longer to make up for population imbalances.

a) Already tried. Not enough AD/DC can make the commitment to matter.
b) RL comes first. I'm not losing any more sleep than I need to over this, nor am I taking time out of my work schedule (because that's when a lot of this stuff happens, when people are at work/school).

You really have no inkling of what's actually happening, do you?

I did say it was preposterous.

But if you don't agree that it's preposterous and if it matters to you so much, fix your own problems. It's within your faction's powerful do so and your success might even attract new players to your side. But if it's too inconvenient for you, then don't or hope that ZOS will fix them for you.

Yeah, I'm done talking to you. Welcome to the ignore box. I've seen rocks less dense.

LonePirate · October 2014

I couldn't believe my eyes when AD on Thornblade NA was at 1 bar for several minutes around 6:00am Eastern his morning. I don't think I have ever seen the AD pop so low on this campaign.

Agrippa_Invisus · October 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

I couldn't believe my eyes when AD on Thornblade NA was at 1 bar for several minutes around 6:00am Eastern his morning. I don't think I have ever seen the AD pop so low on this campaign.

Guess there's a first time for everything.