Maintenance for the week of November 25:
• [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – November 27, 6:00AM EST (11:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EST (14:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – November 27, 6:00AM EST (11:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EST (14:00 UTC)

Does anyone else find that they are falling behind? (read first)

  • Covyn
    Covyn
    ✭✭✭
    No
    I am finding I am leaving areas well above the required level for the next, however...I do every quest, I run the At level dungeons 3-4 times while I am in the area, and I harvest for Tradeskill mats constantly. So this leaves me on foot, crossing maps constantly, and pillaging camps for their foodstuffs, lumber, etc.

    I also do all world bosses, and come to the call each time an anchor drops. Those first kills on Anchors/world bosses is fairly nice on the XP hit. So I am really unsure what to say if you find yourself falling behind if you are moving down the completionist path.

    I usually move into the next area 3-5 levels above the mobs :neutral_face:

    I do wonder though, if perhaps this is build oriented, as a DK AoE build its just waves of death everywhere, so the raw amount of what I kill may be higher...5-10 mobs at a time doesn't waver me, but if I had limited AoE it would be a much slower process when moving through the world. I would most likely only kill what I have too, instead of "whatever stands in my way, and all their friends too" .

    Best of luck!
    Gyxx (VR1) Templar
    Quidd (VR5) Nightblade
    Kadzien (15) Sorc
    Covyn (VR12) DragonKnight (now spends his days crafting)
  • Zershar_Vemod
    Zershar_Vemod
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    Covyn wrote: »
    I am finding I am leaving areas well above the required level for the next, however...I do every quest, I run the At level dungeons 3-4 times while I am in the area, and I harvest for Tradeskill mats constantly. So this leaves me on foot, crossing maps constantly, and pillaging camps for their foodstuffs, lumber, etc.

    I also do all world bosses, and come to the call each time an anchor drops. Those first kills on Anchors/world bosses is fairly nice on the XP hit. So I am really unsure what to say if you find yourself falling behind if you are moving down the completionist path.

    I usually move into the next area 3-5 levels above the mobs :neutral_face:

    I do wonder though, if perhaps this is build oriented, as a DK AoE build its just waves of death everywhere, so the raw amount of what I kill may be higher...5-10 mobs at a time doesn't waver me, but if I had limited AoE it would be a much slower process when moving through the world. I would most likely only kill what I have too, instead of "whatever stands in my way, and all their friends too" .

    Best of luck!

    I'm a NB and I'm always above mobs with each new area I enter - I do everything that's on the map and it gives a ton of xp. If anything I get too much xp at times which makes most of the quests in new areas grey already for me...

    I usually need to do dailies in Cyrodiil to get real xp at this point.
    House Nyssara (NA)
    Black Market Traders
    Order of the Lamp Post
    Thorn Brigade
    VR15 Nightblade Vampire
  • Magicke
    Magicke
    Soul Shriven
    No
    Mobs don't seem to give xp. However picking chests give a lot - unlimited in theory. Books, bookcases, lorebooks are also a source. Cyrodiil repeatable quests after level 10 give excellent return at low levels and also unlimited potential. Cyrodiil has pve dailies as well as pvp.
    Edited by Magicke on 18 April 2014 13:34
  • Falmer
    Falmer
    ✭✭✭✭
    No
    Haven't had a problem with this yet. Generally I am about 2 levels higher than the things I am finding in any given location. My guess is you missed something.
  • kedz54
    kedz54
    ✭✭✭
    No
    I've been at least 4 levels below every zone and I've been doing everything I can find. I'm okay with this because it provides somewhat of a challenge.
    Dunmer Sorcerer
  • Thor_ThunderBolt
    Yes
    Different for all... I had problems with my Templar build getting stuck at levels that I was not able to compete in ... sure it maybe me and the build. I just went back and made a new character and really focused on killing and killing and killing anything and everything with my sorcerer this time and I'm leveling better and my skills are working, but I'm not to the point where my level 20 build hit the wall.
  • Lisa
    Lisa
    ✭✭✭
    No
    I'm level 18 and still in Glenumbra. I feel slightly over leveled at this point. I think they have changed the difficulty because with my group of three it's too easy.
    Blessed are those who explore the unbeaten path...
  • wdadams1965ub17_ESO
    Yes
    well I have had the same problem as the OP. I think that the ones that are not having the issue are the ones that group more . If you are soloing the game the xp is a little low. This is something they need to look into.

    I know once I hit lvl 30 the xp for quest slowed way down. I am now doing lvl 33 quest for there are no more lvl 30 31 32 quest left for me to do.

    I don't group up much in this game due to the out of sink issue.
  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
    leandro.800ub17_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭
    No
    Im doing quests 3 levels below me
  • Covyn
    Covyn
    ✭✭✭
    No
    well I have had the same problem as the OP. I think that the ones that are not having the issue are the ones that group more . If you are soloing the game the xp is a little low. This is something they need to look into.

    I know once I hit lvl 30 the xp for quest slowed way down. I am now doing lvl 33 quest for there are no more lvl 30 31 32 quest left for me to do.

    I don't group up much in this game due to the out of sink issue.

    I only group for Dungeons/PvP. I think there are some things being overlooked by people having a hard time solo. It really doesn't matter your class, but the build/mechanics have a lot to do with it.

    1) Build Passives: are you taking them?
    2) Stats: are you riding soft caps? Did you dump a stat? Spread too thin?
    3) Gear: is it at level with your character?
    4) Consumables: Are you using crafted blue or purple food?
    5) Skillpoints: Did you makes sure to gather all the skyshards in the area?

    There are a lot of questions you can ask to fine tune your play, and stay ahead of the curve.

    Gyxx (VR1) Templar
    Quidd (VR5) Nightblade
    Kadzien (15) Sorc
    Covyn (VR12) DragonKnight (now spends his days crafting)
  • Zershar_Vemod
    Zershar_Vemod
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    well I have had the same problem as the OP. I think that the ones that are not having the issue are the ones that group more . If you are soloing the game the xp is a little low. This is something they need to look into.

    I know once I hit lvl 30 the xp for quest slowed way down. I am now doing lvl 33 quest for there are no more lvl 30 31 32 quest left for me to do.

    I don't group up much in this game due to the out of sink issue.

    I solo 99% of the time honestly and I have never been under-leveled yet. I simply do everything on each map and go to Cyrodiil for dailies.
    House Nyssara (NA)
    Black Market Traders
    Order of the Lamp Post
    Thorn Brigade
    VR15 Nightblade Vampire
  • natters69
    natters69
    im not fully completing some areas but i and usually 2 lvls below when i go to the nxt zone, for eg going from eastmarch to the rift i was 36 first mobs encountered were 38 and it has been the same for each new zone. i struggle and die a bit but it doesnt take long to get back on par
  • jesterstear
    jesterstear
    ✭✭✭
    Yes
    I'm not having a problem doing quests 2 levels above me, but i'm concerned about why i'm so far behind because in the New Player Questions thread it is advised to never fall behind, this means you're missing quests or being lazy.

    I've just hit level 26 and have 2 days 23 hours 30 minutes (basically 3 whole days, give or take half an hour) on the character, and have done 116 quests.

    Is that on par? Or should I have done more or fewer quests by that point? Am I levelling too slowly for the amount of time /played?

    I strongly suspect so, but as a sword and board, Templar healer/tank I have no dps skills beyond ransack and autoattack, so that's something I have to live with.

    Like I say I spent 2 hours grinding this morning, I got 1 level that way but it was most unfun and cost me 1000g in repair bills. Without the gold from quest completion, i'm running a loss.
  • Hak
    Hak
    Just wait til you get to veteran ranks. I'm VR3 and need 1.4 million exp, and there is only 1 zone to do that in.

    Fell behind 200k exp to VR3, and almost 600k behind to VR4 with 80-90% of the zone done. Again, monsters only give you around 50exp... so just need to kill 12,000 monsters (which are tougher than regular monsters).
  • Saibot
    Saibot
    No
    Explore, explore, and most of all explore! Make sure you look under every rock and you'll find the xp to keep you on track. I felt at one point I was falling behind until I checked those areas of the map my main quests didn't take me. Lots of hidden goodies and quests all over the place.
  • lichmeister
    lichmeister
    ✭✭✭
    No
    i am currently a working on reapers march (AD) and found that by the time the map was about half done i had outlevelled most of the quests. its so extreme that im not even getting experience anymore from half of these quests. the last one i did before logging the mobs were all 38 and i was 44 so no loots at all.
    i found one last chain that might give me some experience but its completely bugged out and blocking progress into dune. i reached 45 just running around and getting the last few delves and shards i could locate. the highest level mobs ive encountered in this zone were 42 so they are now 3 levels lower than me and at this rate btt i finish dune, they will all be grey as well!

    this happened in both greenshade and auridon as well. in auridon, by the time i reached the top of the map where that poor fool is after the crown of rillis i am about 16th or 17th level... greenshade was worse. i remember slogging through a bunch of the quests just for the skill points they would award!

    i have always had a scorched earth policy towards enemies in most mmos i have played. while most groups take mob avoidance to an artform, i prefer the less subtle approach of 'if it moves, it dies!' so i often carve out longer paths that let me crush more enemies than my fellow gamers.
    Edited by lichmeister on 19 April 2014 00:34
  • Tatumo
    Tatumo
    Yes
    Seems to depend on how much combat dodging vs fight seeking I do, and if I waste low level quests doing higher level ones first.
    Edited by Tatumo on 19 April 2014 00:44
  • Ciovala
    Ciovala
    ✭✭✭
    No
    I'm level 36 and haven't started the area after Greenshade yet. No PvP for 15 levels, no Ring of Mara, and no treasure chests in 10 levels.
    Edited by Ciovala on 19 April 2014 12:43
    Looking for a mature and helpful social guild - play PvE, PvP, and like crafting.
  • per.t.pettersenb16_ESO
    No
    No . For each map im done with, more and more quests are turning green/grey(just finished marabel tor, level 40 3 grey quests).
    I explore everything, do every quest and all anchors. And i havent touched pvp yet.
  • Auralia
    Auralia
    ✭✭✭
    No
    At the moment no. My character is lvl 16 and I am currently doing lvl 15 quests and Iam in Auridon. I did do the start prison thing as well as I chose to return and do all the quests in the starting area Khenarthi's Roost. Also I rarely ever group. I only have for dark anchor's, world bosses and the group dungeon BC.
    Edited by Auralia on 20 April 2014 01:48
  • Dolenz
    Dolenz
    ✭✭✭
    Yes
    There is definitely a discrepancy happening somewhere with all these various results. I just made it to GreenWood at 22. One of the first quests I picked up is level 24.

    I did the tutorial.
    I did all the starter island
    I got all skyshards and the quest achievement in Auridon

    I have done 31 of 41 Grahtwood quests towards the achievement and have a few Skyshards to find in that zone.

    I highly doubt that that those 2 quests and skyshards net me the level and a half needed to be on target for Greenshade.

    Just as a data point
    I have not done the group dungeons
    I have no gone to Cyrodiil at all
    I have never grouped
    I have not used the rings of Mara.

    I am just not seeing how we can have people saying they are two or three levels a head and others 2 levels behind all saying they are doing everything they find. That is quite a large discrepancy.
  • Ciovala
    Ciovala
    ✭✭✭
    No
    The overlevelling keeps getting worse for me - I'm 37 now in Malabal Tor and just finished a GREY level 31 quest. It's pretty absurd if you ask me, if anything they need to reduce the XP given from quests or something.
    Edited by Ciovala on 20 April 2014 18:11
    Looking for a mature and helpful social guild - play PvE, PvP, and like crafting.
  • Ahnjil
    Ahnjil
    Yes
    I don't fall behind if I do every single thing... But that's not what I want to do.
    This is a TES game, so there should be freedom to skip some content.
    My experience comes from Auridon.
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
  • alienbongs
    alienbongs
    Soul Shriven
    No
    I'm sincerely shocked anybody is behind. If you are, go on a skyshard run through your zone. I left for Coldharbor, came back to Reaper's March to get the skyshards and found out I hadn't completed around 7 quests. I'm more worried in ESO about being too ahead . I'm sure I've missed some skillpoints for things I didn't complete. Remember that you get major XP for finding new locations as well as opening chests and taking down dolmens and random daedra portals. I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but still good to consider.
  • MKLS
    MKLS
    ✭✭✭
    No
    I was around lvl 25 and went back to finish a grayed out lvl 13 quest even though I thought I'd completed all of Auriden apart from this one quest just for the fun of doing the quest.

    Turns out that lvl 13 quest led to a lvl 25 ish quest in Greenshade that I might well have missed.

    My point being that there is probably quite a lot of extra content that its easy to over look.

    After saying that - for those that don't like exploring - then don't - do anchors, group up or do pvp instead.

    Personally I like exploring so have only done the tutorial for PVP but all of the bosses and dungeons except for the 4 man dungeons are easy enough at the moment to do solo I've found, as there are other players in the vicinity so there is no need for a formal group. The 4 man dungeons I've just missed as 4 man groups are not my thing at early levels.

    Btw I'm now Lvl 27 with 5 days played - so very slow progression - and I out level mobs by at least a level generally.
  • nexmilitis
    No
    Some of the things I have tried to do in order to keep ahead of the curve is to make sure I pick up all shards and get all lore books. By doing this I have found quite a few quests that I would have otherwise missed. Moreover, it sends me deep into public dungeons where I get quite a bit of loot and experience. Finally, the shards lead to more skill points which means I am never under powered compared to the mobs I fight.
    This is where an image would be if I were allowed to have an image in my signature...
  • Sarah_Lynn
    Sarah_Lynn
    ✭✭✭
    Yes
    Honestly I think it pretty much depends on how many monsters you're killing on your way around. Monsters give pretty good exp, if you kill everything you see while making your way around the zones you shouldn't be falling behind, when I fall behind I just walk around and grind for a bit, when I don't it's because I was walking and killing things in between quests instead of using wayshrines or my horse.
    I spend way too much time and money on this game.
  • nexmilitis
    No
    Sarah_Lynn wrote: »
    when I fall behind I just walk around and grind for a bit, when I don't it's because I was walking and killing things in between quests instead of using wayshrines or my horse.

    I have to agree about the wayshrines thing. Try not to use them when traveling between quest locations on the same map. You will discover several things by doing so: More mobs to kill, more quests to find, more exploration experience, more lorebooks, more skyshards, and more coldharbour chains.
    This is where an image would be if I were allowed to have an image in my signature...
  • Tamcia
    Tamcia
    Yes
    I do all the quests, explore all the areas and I'm always 2-3 levels behind. I do go over the zone about 2 times before I move to next one.
  • moonshinemicky
    No
    I seem to always be 5 levels above the content I'm doing. My mod of operation is:

    1. Solo mostly.
    2. Completionist (defined as when I leave a map, there are no map markers left undone)
    3. Dark Anchors. Do them anytime I run across one.
    4. Chest. Always looking out for these, haven't come across one I couldn't open with one pick.
    5. Books. It will keep me awake at night if I have to pass up a bookshelf without investigating it.
    6. Explorer. Love to try and find all the nooks and crannies, treasure chests from maps, and skyshards.

    Pretty sure you can leave some of that out and still be at lvl if not higher. I would actually prefer to be nearer to the correct lvl but I figure it will smooth out eventually.

    One thing that may be causing a little bit of under-leveling is the high population in public/quest dungeons. I'm only now starting to find non packed dungeons. Most of the time you just run through without any or super minimal fighting due to the amount of people there. Then you stand around in a big mob waiting for the named to appear. It dies in under one second and you just have to hope you hit it to get credit. Normally it shouldn't be that way. You should have a nice fight that works up a sweat and maybe some cuts and bruises on the way, then a nicer fight at whatever beast/man rules the roost.

Sign In or Register to comment.