Does anyone else find that they are falling behind? (read first)

Foxhunt

Yes

Yes but only because a few quests in Greenshade are bugged for me, meaning I am now in Malabar Tor questing and am 2 - 3 levels below the recommended. If I didn't have to worry about bugged quests, I wouldn't be under leveled but I'm still fairly easily doing these higher level quests.

cubansyrusb16_ESO

No

lynix112 wrote: »

razvarseb17_ESO wrote: »

On the contrary, if i explore and complete every quest i find, i will often outlevel mobs in the next area or map.

How? I could send you a screen shot of both of my 7 - 15 zones and 15 - 24 zones fully completed and half of the 24 - 3x zone and am stuck at level 24... I honestly have no idea why...

When a zone says 65/65 complete that is not all the quest in that zone, Deshaan for example I have done nearly 8 quests over the 65 for the achievement.

GamePlayer7

Yes

Yes, rarely am I at the appropriate level for quests, (I'm on DC). Some of this potentially has to do with certain quest chains being bugged, so people end up locked out of entire quest lines.

Some of the quest and mob levels just seem weird to me though. A few quests in particular have some strange level disparities. One quest was listed in my journal as being level 32, but then on the road to the quest, all the surrounding mobs were level 37. Then when I get to the quest location, all the mobs in that area were level 37 too. So, Zenimax apparently thinks my character will gain 5 levels while traveling the road to do this quest? I gained maybe 1 level along the way, and ended fighting mobs several levels above me, again.

*****Potential Spoiler Below*****

Another quest was the Fighters Guild one where you are awarded the "Fighters Guild Victor" title on completion. Somehow, I ended up doing this at level 37, even though you're up against elites that are level 43, (and then a level 50 boss?). I compIeted it, but I know for a fact that this quest was not listed as a level 43 quest in my journal.

Stabbina

No

OP, you say you are a completionist. What does that mean (for you)?
Do you ...

• do every quest
• find every skyshard
• check out every locale (eye-symbol)
• complete every ruin
• complete every dungeon at least 1x
• complete every dark anchor at least 1x
• complete all the achievements available

... on the current map before advancing to a new map?

Other ways of grabbing (more) experience while playing:

• I noticed that monsters stop filling my ultimate ability when I outlevel them by more than 5 levels, so I assume they stop giving me experience points too. Completing dark anchor events when you are at the appropriate level (and when they are not not bugged ) gives you a nice experience boost. (As a completionist you do them at least once anyway . )
• (For me) ES games have always been about exploring: mapping & seeing every inch of the world. While running around, making sure I visit every place, I find plenty of locked chests. Unlocking these chests not only gives loot, it also gives you experience points. I don't know if they give a lot of points, but I did get experience points for a chest in Kenarthi's Roost when I went back there while I was allready done with Auridon.
• Another fun thing in the ES games (again for me) is crafting. I like ESO crafting even better than the single player games (except for provisioning which I find too repetitive). Although crafting doesn't seem to give experience points, it often lets you craft gear that has just that tiny edge on the gear you loot. Obviously you need some raw materials before you can craft. Here is the next opportunity for some experience points: don't be lazy and waste those shiny goldpieces on crafting materials. Go gather them yourself. While you gather, I bet you'll spot more treasure chests to unlock (exp), and lots of animals that can be brutally slain for their hides. Butchering animals for crafting materials gives you experience points .

Following this playstyle, I ended Kenarthi's Roost as a level 9 (did 1 part of main story) and I was fully finished in Auridon at level 19. At the moment, I have several quests that are white to me already. If I don't change my playstyle, I will outlevel the quests fast. but who cares about levels when Molag Bal took my soul and is trying to take the souls of everybody in Tamriel next? When I can finally pull myself away from all those lovely lorebooks, I'm going to show him that my crafted hammer does fit where the sun don't shine!

Hmm, this turned out to be a rather long post. Oh well, server is down for maintenance anyway. Hope it goes online again soon ...

l-wilson-1986b16_ESO

I'm running at about 3 levels above the finishing level for a zone at the moment without doing any pvp. It's just from doing every dungeon, every public dungeon, every Dolman, every world boss and every quest even after I get the achievement.
So as a completionist I am finding there are no problems!

Kunni

Yes

Would like to first say im levelling in daggerfall area. At one point I was 8 levels below and I asked in zone chat if anyone else was having this issue, many people /w me and said they had the same, despite exploring and doing all the quests they find. Im now 43 in coldharbour, and have done all quests (stuck on army of meridian or w/e). Now finding myself going back to grind dungeons, in hopes to catch up. I know people have had no issues at all, but should I really be this underleveled, after really trying to complete every quest (which I enjoy)...

Darkreign

I missed bleakrock the first time round, and struggled to make head way. Deleteted the char and re-started, by chance accepting a boat ride to bleakrock. instead of trooping off into stonefalls and the difference was stupendous. Lvls fell into my lap like a 10 dollar hooker. I assumed that taking the boat ride to another zone was a next step after the zone I was currently in, rather than the next logical step. Now im around about the same lvl as my surroundings and not struggling to gain lvls, but I must admit I am a bit of an adventurer so do like to get into every corner of the game, thus adding exp rather than loosing it.

mu2

No

Loxy37 wrote: »

Just a thought. Are the people that answer yes, doing cold harbour and or the starter islands because there maybe their issue if not. I have 4 characters and each have done both.

I did Coalharbour and the starting islands, yes. I tend to explore a bit and fight most of what I come across.

Edited to say: Aaand it says I voted no, though I remember voting yes. Eurgh.

Trayt

No

nope, I am a zone completionist so to speak. I haven't had an issue, However, I quested in cyrodiil for a while too. I am lvl 23 fighting same level creature

Trayt

No

nope, I am a zone completionist so to speak. I haven't had an issue, However, I quested in cyrodiil for a while too. I am lvl 23 fighting same level creature

silent88b14_ESO

No

lynix112 wrote: »

Sykotik_ESO wrote: »

No, I have never been too far behind, I'm either a level or 2 below the mobs or a few levels above.

Just kill everything while on quests, keep exploring and doing the quests, get all the public dungeons done, grind out some xp even if you want, without even aoe grinding I could make a level in 30mins.

Just takes patience and perseverance, plus if you play right you can easily solo mobs 3-4 levels higher than you.

wut? Did you not read the description? Your advice is to tell me grind? What am I playing an MMO from the 90s?

ESO is ESO. It is not any other game regardless of era. You have a stereotype you imagine for all current MMO games but you are mistaken. Your image of the game is not the game. The game is the game, and you are failing at it. You wish to learn if others are failing at it as well, and of course some are. IT IS A GAME. That means some succeed fairly and some lose fairly, like you. The difference between a game and real life is that life is not fair.

So why are you losing? Because you are not playing ESO inside ESO, you are trying to play some other game here instead, and that game fails here.

undeadnotseeb14_ESO

Yes

In Beta, I always found myself ahead of the curve. I was always around 2 levels higher than the mobs I was facing, this time around, even though my main is only level 13, I am finding that I am leveling up much slower, and to my knowledge, I have completed all quests in the two starter islands, as well as Glenumbra that are level 12 and below (Minus Spindle, and the one or two that are bugged.). Lockpicking offers a lot of xp in comparison to fighting, and I think that is where the problem lies, xp rates are higher for non-essential exploration skills. Quests provide a bulk of my xp, but PvE accounts for very little, I think rates need to be tweaked a little.

dagmundna

No

It's exactly the opposite for me, I'm always a few lvls above the mobs.

teonimesic

Yes

Yes, but only because when i took a boat to Grahtwood, it left me in the high level end of the map. So i struggled to finish my first quests there, and then everything else was too easy. I feel like the game's mobs should accompany your level, or at least maps should have the same enemy level all around so you can explore everything without going somewhere where you shouldn't go yet.

Hak

Go searching for chests if you seem to be falling behind. Just find an out of the way area, and look carefully everywhere; some master chests gave me 20%+ experience a level around 28.

SilentThunder

Yes

Sykotik_ESO wrote: »

No, I have never been too far behind, I'm either a level or 2 below the mobs or a few levels above.

Just kill everything while on quests, keep exploring and doing the quests, get all the public dungeons done, grind out some xp even if you want, without even aoe grinding I could make a level in 30mins.

Just takes patience and perseverance, plus if you play right you can easily solo mobs 3-4 levels higher than you.

I just love people like this, a level in 30 min without aoe grinding I call major lie /exaggeration. If you get 1 level in 30-40 min doing a major aoe grind your doing better than most. Just running around killing random stuff you would get a level in maybe 5-6 hours. I do every quest I can find, kill every mob that crosses my path, and do all the solo dungeons.I still end up 3-4 levels lower than the first mobs in the next zone. The only thing im not doing are the 4 person dungeons as no one wants a dps unless you out level the dungeon by 3-4 levels min. I was planning on filling in a few levels by doing repeatable Pvp quests but they nerfed that option so your kind of stuck being lower than you should be for next zone.

EmperorBungholio

Yes

jdkorreckpreub18_ESO wrote: »

I wonder if people with xp problems are sneaking past mobs rather than killing everything in their path.

mhm! I'm not getting enough and i sneak through over 50% of the mobs

Asava

Yes

Well I can say that it's not much fun being L18 doing a L19 quest that has L23 bosses in it.....

shadowz081

No

Not really, I may be only lv 20, but I have managed to get enough skill points to be more or less 3-4 levels 'ahead' in what other people have (I have been skyshard hunting in cyrodil). So if you are feeling behind, go look for some skill points, it may help depending on what you put them in.

Mie87

No

Is it ok to go to Greenshade at lvl 24?
If not, I'm not getting enough xp.
And I am truly a completionist.

Jiub18

No

razvarseb17_ESO wrote: »

On the contrary, if i explore and complete every quest i find, i will often outlevel mobs in the next area or map.

Ditto

eNumbra

No

razvarseb17_ESO wrote: »

On the contrary, if i explore and complete every quest i find, i will often outlevel mobs in the next area or map.

This, I've never found myself lower lever than zone mobs when proceeding to the next area.

Dracovar

Yes

I've been above level pretty much the whole time. When I left Auridon I was 17, pushing 18. Now I'm in Grahtwood, I'm level 21 almost 22 and I have level 16-17 quests in my journal. As a matter of fact, tonight just before I logged off I found two more quests, one level 16 and one level 17. So I'm the opposite, it seems I'm leveling too fast. I even mentioned to my wife that I wish I could turn exp off for a while because I feel I'm getting too far ahead. Then again, it could level out at some point in the future.

WhiteQueen

Yes

I feel I'm falling behind because I'm doing more troubleshooting than actual playing. This last update, for example, has sidelined me for 14 hours.

Usstan

No

Not sure about how it is in the other alliances but for me playing AD, I'm usually around level 7-8 when I leave KR and start on Auridon. By the time I finish Auridon and move on to Grathwood, I've been around level 17-18.

On my "main" I'm now level 26 and still not done with Grathwood. This is a combination of doing all quests, anchors, exploring all locations and opening a bunch of chests.

But if you just follow the main quest's and don't do all the side quests (or you skip the starter island) I can see how you start lagging behind in levels.

lynix112

Yes

I really want to post Screens shots of my map but I couldn't be bothered. I only skipped anchors because I assumed they were optional and from recent experience today they ARE a waste of time if you want to level at a reasonable rate. I've seen all sorts of theories on how to out level your zone when it's completed by like 4 levels but I have attempted to do them and receive maybe 1/8th of the XP that people say they are getting from things... For example someone said to open master chests as they give "like 20% XP" (his words) so I went hunting for some.. Found 3 they each gave me 2% XP and they were all found in areas with level 28 mobs. Same goes for anchors I tried them after what I said above and I'm getting maybe 1% XP per anchor on the first completion of said anchor plus maybe 2% from the spawned mobs. Not nearly enough to raise me 4 levels and put me on par with the mobs I am fighting. So I thought to myself maybe I am sneaking past too many mobs ( I Sneak past about 20% of mobs) so i tried not sneaking for a few areas just to see what the XP was. Grinding level 25 mobs I managed to grind out 3% in about 45 minutes so I can see how that would help a little but realistically mobs give *** all XP (roughly 4 -8% an hour depending on your speed) probably in a zone I would get maybe get 1 level from pure mobs. The only conclusions I have been able to draw is that the XP is bugged for some people or something is flying over my head completely. I'm sorry if you don't believe what I'm saying but it's true.

Oh and to top it all off I'm using a ring of mara.... I'd hate to see this without it.

Dagyr

No

Not at all. I'm leveling a character with a friend on Dominion (with rings of mara) and I've considered taking the ring off at times because we're getting too far ahead. We're 100% completionists (every skyshard, every quest, every dungeon, every locale, etc.) and by the time we leave a zone we're 3-5 levels ahead of the content. We just kill everything that we come across in quests, spend a bit of time just exploring and searching for chests/ore/herbs, do every dark anchor whenever they spawn near us because we both think they're awesome, and just have an overall great time. If you look at it like a grind, it'll feel like a grind for sure. Just take your time and enjoy the game and its incredible scenery, I remember there were some spots in Grahtwood that we both were like "woah, screencap that, that looks amazing". Moments like that really make the game fly by.

Pelerin2014

No

I don't feel I'm falling behind, in fact - I'm generally 1 or 2 levels above whatever content I'm doing.

Mie87

No

lynix112 wrote: »

I really want to post Screens shots of my map but I couldn't be bothered. I only skipped anchors because I assumed they were optional and from recent experience today they ARE a waste of time if you want to level at a reasonable rate. I've seen all sorts of theories on how to out level your zone when it's completed by like 4 levels but I have attempted to do them and receive maybe 1/8th of the XP that people say they are getting from things... For example someone said to open master chests as they give "like 20% XP" (his words) so I went hunting for some.. Found 3 they each gave me 2% XP and they were all found in areas with level 28 mobs. Same goes for anchors I tried them after what I said above and I'm getting maybe 1% XP per anchor on the first completion of said anchor plus maybe 2% from the spawned mobs. Not nearly enough to raise me 4 levels and put me on par with the mobs I am fighting. So I thought to myself maybe I am sneaking past too many mobs ( I Sneak past about 20% of mobs) so i tried not sneaking for a few areas just to see what the XP was. Grinding level 25 mobs I managed to grind out 3% in about 45 minutes so I can see how that would help a little but realistically mobs give *** all XP (roughly 4 -8% an hour depending on your speed) probably in a zone I would get maybe get 1 level from pure mobs. The only conclusions I have been able to draw is that the XP is bugged for some people or something is flying over my head completely. I'm sorry if you don't believe what I'm saying but it's true.

Oh and to top it all off I'm using a ring of mara.... I'd hate to see this without it.

I believe you, I have the same issue.
It must be some kind of bug regarding xp bestowal for certain people.

sleepspasmnub18_ESO

No

I'm not falling behind. I've completed every map (first three) along with PVPed and I'm currently a few levels above the quests that Greenshade has for me.