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Are ads actually going to be in game?

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So all this talk about third party marketing. What exactly does this mean? Will there actually be ads in game? Or just on website and launcher screen? If there's ads popping up while I'm playing, I have may have to make the incredibly painful and sad decision to leave Tamriel
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    Yeah my question was that how will adds help if they were implemented in the game that you already own and play, I mean really.
  • Horowonnoe
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    What? Where is this info coming from?
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  • ereboz
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    It does seem odd. We already paid for the game,lots of people are subscribed, and then there's huge revenue from the crown store. It seems like they're just getting greedy now. I'm really upset to see where this game in going at the 3 year mark. I really don't wanna leave but there's a line
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    What? Where is this info coming from?
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/330377/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-7-10
    ereboz wrote: »
    So all this talk about third party marketing. What exactly does this mean? Will there actually be ads in game? Or just on website and launcher screen? If there's ads popping up while I'm playing, I have may have to make the incredibly painful and sad decision to leave Tamriel
    Probably not, it would be dumb as hell, but everyone loves their crazy conspiracies and knee-jerk reactions on these forums.
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  • RapidUrsa
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    The they'll probably make it an ESO Plus reward to get rid of ads!
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    Tylos001 wrote: »
    The they'll probably make it an ESO Plus reward to get rid of ads!
    Doubt it. They would tank the game.

    Pretty sure this has nothing to do with them displaying any advertising on any of our services but just making clear they sell/share data and could if they wanted.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Perhaps this one she wonders if this might have something to do with future competitions and any other companies they choose to partner with for these?

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  • max_only
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    It wasn't that long of a notice. I read it and basically it covers Facebook et al and that they will pool their information about you to sell you more video games on social media. There is even an opt out email in the notification: ads@zenimax.com


    There is no mention of ads in the game. It's about tracking you across websites so they can tell who they are marketing to based on your social media and how well they worded their website ads and email (if you click on it, or hover over it, or spend time on it)

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  • kyle.wilson
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    I recommend anyone that has run the patch update to actually read the TOS that pops up on the first log.
    They won't be putting ads in the game, but ZOS can now sell your personal information to 3rd party advertisers.

    So, if I were you I would unlink any social network account you have from ZeniMax.
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    It's about using third party marketing tactics to sell you things, not about advertising in the game, jesus.

    Also, this is new and me likey

    ZeniMax, on its own and through third parties, may collect certain “device-identifying data” about your personal computer or mobile device, such as system information, IP address, screen resolution, device type, (e.g. PC, MAC), operating system (e.g. Windows, OS X, Linux), device time zone, MAC address, general geolocation information, and other system or network information to create a digital identifier of your device. This information may be combined with other information from our providers who assist us in conducting these activities.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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    Maybe it will be subtle. Like having some quiznos food recipes or Ikea furniture added.
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    max_only wrote: »
    Please stop. the tin foil industry is rich enough.

    No, no as a share holder in Bacofoil I think there is room for further discussion and tinfoil purchase.
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    yodased wrote: »

    ZeniMax, on its own and through third parties, may collect certain “device-identifying data” about your personal computer or mobile device, such as system information, IP address, screen resolution, device type, (e.g. PC, MAC), operating system (e.g. Windows, OS X, Linux), device time zone, MAC address, general geolocation information, and other system or network information to create a digital identifier of your device. This information may be combined with other information from our providers who assist us in conducting these activities.

    But can they detect rubber bands on controllers?
  • Claire
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Maybe it will be subtle. Like having some quiznos food recipes or Ikea furniture added.

    Or a Dodge logo on the back of a ram in Cyrodiil.
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  • Cadbury
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    Perhaps this one she wonders if this might have something to do with future competitions and any other companies they choose to partner with for these?

    Yours with paws
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    They've already leaked online some of the ingame ads we will see.

    Here's one targeting Khajiit players:


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    Here is the actual wording of the third-party disclosure btw


    We may partner with third party ad networks to either display advertising on our website or to manage our advertising on other websites. We and our ad network partners use cookies, web beacons and other tools to collect information about your activities on this and other websites, as well as your IP address and location information, to provide you targeted advertising based upon your interests and to evaluate the success of their advertising.

    For example, we may work with Facebook (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page) to display targeted ads to you in Facebook. We may also work with others, such as Google Ads and DoubleClick (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page), and Weborama (see their privacy policy and opt out page), to display ads to you on other third party sites, based on your use of our products, activities on our sites and services, or other interactions with us. We may also, unless you have opted out, share certain information (such as your email address) with these and other third parties to assist them in better targeting our users within their services; you can opt-out of our sharing your personal information to target you this way by emailing us at ads@zenimax.com. We will process your opt out in a reasonable amount of time; please note, that your opt out is only effective on a going-forward basis and not with respect to any information we have previously shared for these purposes. As noted above, you may also control how Google, Facebook and other third parties display certain ads to you, as explained further in their respective privacy policies and ad preferences pages.

    You also may also get more information about targeted advertising, as well as opt-out of receiving targeted ads from many third-party ad networks (including Facebook and Google), through the following:

    For U.S. Users:

    www.networkadvertising.org/optout_nonppii.asp (Network Advertising Initiative)
    www.aboutads.info/choices (Digital Advertising Alliance)
    For users in the European Union:

    www.youronlinechoices.eu (European Interactive Digital Advertising Alliance)
    Please note that opting out of participating ad networks does not opt you out of being served advertising. You will continue to receive generic or “contextual” ads on our website. You may also continue to receive targeted ads on other websites, from companies that do not participate in the above programs.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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    nvm
    Edited by Khaos_Bane on 20 March 2017 16:48
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    yodased wrote: »
    Here is the actual wording of the third-party disclosure btw


    We may partner with third party ad networks to either display advertising on our website or to manage our advertising on other websites. We and our ad network partners use cookies, web beacons and other tools to collect information about your activities on this and other websites, as well as your IP address and location information, to provide you targeted advertising based upon your interests and to evaluate the success of their advertising.

    For example, we may work with Facebook (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page) to display targeted ads to you in Facebook. We may also work with others, such as Google Ads and DoubleClick (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page), and Weborama (see their privacy policy and opt out page), to display ads to you on other third party sites, based on your use of our products, activities on our sites and services, or other interactions with us. We may also, unless you have opted out, share certain information (such as your email address) with these and other third parties to assist them in better targeting our users within their services; you can opt-out of our sharing your personal information to target you this way by emailing us at ads@zenimax.com. We will process your opt out in a reasonable amount of time; please note, that your opt out is only effective on a going-forward basis and not with respect to any information we have previously shared for these purposes. As noted above, you may also control how Google, Facebook and other third parties display certain ads to you, as explained further in their respective privacy policies and ad preferences pages.

    You also may also get more information about targeted advertising, as well as opt-out of receiving targeted ads from many third-party ad networks (including Facebook and Google), through the following:

    For U.S. Users:

    www.networkadvertising.org/optout_nonppii.asp (Network Advertising Initiative)
    www.aboutads.info/choices (Digital Advertising Alliance)
    For users in the European Union:

    www.youronlinechoices.eu (European Interactive Digital Advertising Alliance)
    Please note that opting out of participating ad networks does not opt you out of being served advertising. You will continue to receive generic or “contextual” ads on our website. You may also continue to receive targeted ads on other websites, from companies that do not participate in the above programs.

    I didn't read any of this but I can tell you it defiantly says in game advertising and selling of all my personal data.

    I've unsubbed all seven of my accounts and will not give ZOS another penny!
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  • ifDoubtNerfIt
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    Turelus wrote: »
    From the Privacy Policy.

    This is what it is, you just needed to go and read it yourself.
    Third Party Advertising

    We partner with a third party ad network to either display advertising on our website or to manage our advertising on other websites. Our ad network partners use cookies, web beacons and other tools to collect information about your activities on this and other websites, as well as your IP address and location information, to provide you targeted advertising based upon your interests and to evaluate the success of their advertising.

    You may opt-out of receiving targeted ads from many third-party ad networks, including those operated by members of the Network Advertising Initiative ("NAI") and the Digital Advertising Alliance ("DAA"). For more information regarding this practice by NAI members and DAA members, and your choices regarding having this information used by participating companies, including how to opt-out of third-party ad networks operated by NAI and DAA members, please visit their respective websites: www.networkadvertising.org/optout_nonppii.asp (NAI) and www.aboutads.info/choices (DAA). If you are in the European Union, go to www.youronlinechoices.eu for information about your choices with respect to third party advertising, including instructions on how to opt out of participating ad networks. Please note that opting out of participating ad networks does not opt you out of being served advertising. You will continue to receive generic or "contextual" ads. You may also continue to receive targeted ads on other websites, from companies that do not participate in the above programs.

    On some of our websites, we may allow third-parties to serve ads. When you view or click on an ad a cookie will be set to help better provide advertisements that may be of interest to you on this and other websites. You may be able to opt-out of the use of this cookie by visiting that company's privacy page.
  • Khaos_Bane
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    yodased wrote: »
    Here is the actual wording of the third-party disclosure btw


    We may partner with third party ad networks to either display advertising on our website or to manage our advertising on other websites. We and our ad network partners use cookies, web beacons and other tools to collect information about your activities on this and other websites, as well as your IP address and location information, to provide you targeted advertising based upon your interests and to evaluate the success of their advertising.

    For example, we may work with Facebook (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page) to display targeted ads to you in Facebook. We may also work with others, such as Google Ads and DoubleClick (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page), and Weborama (see their privacy policy and opt out page), to display ads to you on other third party sites, based on your use of our products, activities on our sites and services, or other interactions with us. We may also, unless you have opted out, share certain information (such as your email address) with these and other third parties to assist them in better targeting our users within their services; you can opt-out of our sharing your personal information to target you this way by emailing us at ads@zenimax.com. We will process your opt out in a reasonable amount of time; please note, that your opt out is only effective on a going-forward basis and not with respect to any information we have previously shared for these purposes. As noted above, you may also control how Google, Facebook and other third parties display certain ads to you, as explained further in their respective privacy policies and ad preferences pages.

    You also may also get more information about targeted advertising, as well as opt-out of receiving targeted ads from many third-party ad networks (including Facebook and Google), through the following:

    For U.S. Users:

    www.networkadvertising.org/optout_nonppii.asp (Network Advertising Initiative)
    www.aboutads.info/choices (Digital Advertising Alliance)
    For users in the European Union:

    www.youronlinechoices.eu (European Interactive Digital Advertising Alliance)
    Please note that opting out of participating ad networks does not opt you out of being served advertising. You will continue to receive generic or “contextual” ads on our website. You may also continue to receive targeted ads on other websites, from companies that do not participate in the above programs.

    I hate it when Companies give your email address to others and make a profit off of it. FU ZoS
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    Here is the actual wording of the third-party disclosure btw


    We may partner with third party ad networks to either display advertising on our website or to manage our advertising on other websites. We and our ad network partners use cookies, web beacons and other tools to collect information about your activities on this and other websites, as well as your IP address and location information, to provide you targeted advertising based upon your interests and to evaluate the success of their advertising.

    For example, we may work with Facebook (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page) to display targeted ads to you in Facebook. We may also work with others, such as Google Ads and DoubleClick (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page), and Weborama (see their privacy policy and opt out page), to display ads to you on other third party sites, based on your use of our products, activities on our sites and services, or other interactions with us. We may also, unless you have opted out, share certain information (such as your email address) with these and other third parties to assist them in better targeting our users within their services; you can opt-out of our sharing your personal information to target you this way by emailing us at ads@zenimax.com. We will process your opt out in a reasonable amount of time; please note, that your opt out is only effective on a going-forward basis and not with respect to any information we have previously shared for these purposes. As noted above, you may also control how Google, Facebook and other third parties display certain ads to you, as explained further in their respective privacy policies and ad preferences pages.

    You also may also get more information about targeted advertising, as well as opt-out of receiving targeted ads from many third-party ad networks (including Facebook and Google), through the following:

    For U.S. Users:

    www.networkadvertising.org/optout_nonppii.asp (Network Advertising Initiative)
    www.aboutads.info/choices (Digital Advertising Alliance)
    For users in the European Union:

    www.youronlinechoices.eu (European Interactive Digital Advertising Alliance)
    Please note that opting out of participating ad networks does not opt you out of being served advertising. You will continue to receive generic or “contextual” ads on our website. You may also continue to receive targeted ads on other websites, from companies that do not participate in the above programs.

    I hate it when Companies give your email address to others and make a profit off of it. FU ZoS

    Hopefully you're not in the US as well then, it could get worse.
    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/gop-senators-new-bill-would-let-isps-sell-your-web-browsing-data/
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    Turelus wrote: »

    Note to self: Stop looking up memes while at work.
  • ifDoubtNerfIt
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    Khaos_Bane wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    long string

    I hate it when Companies give your email address to others and make a profit off of it. FU ZoS

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    Kodrac wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »

    Note to self: Stop looking up memes while at work.

    Hey, I Googled "flashing gif" the other week at work to think I could get a funny flashing banner image to post on here.

    Google gave me the wrong kind of "flashing gif" to appear on your screen at work. :flushed:
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  • Enteum
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    So, ZOS will be selling our personal data in order to make bank? If this really is the case then...
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    Alpheu5 wrote: »
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    I now want ZOS to replace all the cliff racers in Morrowind with little Goodyear blimps.
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  • ifDoubtNerfIt
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Kodrac wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »

    Note to self: Stop looking up memes while at work.

    Hey, I Googled "flashing gif" the other week at work to think I could get a funny flashing banner image to post on here.

    Google gave me the wrong kind of "flashing gif" to appear on your screen at work. :flushed:
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    Did a quick google, totally not disappointed :flushed:
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