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Are ads actually going to be in game?
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Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
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ifDoubtNerfIt✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
getting more money equals more content in game, if that's not compensation, than I dunno what it is
and, that image was a joke
EDIT: every email service (google inbox) has a spam filter, so you will not even notice the spamEdited by ifDoubtNerfIt on 20 March 2017 17:102 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
getting more money equals more content in game, if that's not compensation, than I dunno what it is
and, that image was a joke
IMO, it is NOT acceptable to force your customers to agree to selling their personal information for profit or to make more content. I pay them 15$ a month so they don't do stuff like this. It's disgusting.
Now I will definitely drop my subscription.Edited by Khaos_Bane on 20 March 2017 17:1215 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭Recover the stolen Tinactin from fungal grotto for bonus loots! My body is ready!“Whatever.”
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Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm used to this sort of thing from the free online services I use and understand that the free sites have got to support themselves somehow, but now it's being added to a game I pay to play? Someone please get me a tin foil hat, I'm thinking F2P base game must be coming soon.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.2 -
ifDoubtNerfIt✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
getting more money equals more content in game, if that's not compensation, than I dunno what it is
and, that image was a joke
IMO, it is NOT acceptable to force your customers to agree to selling their personal information for profit or to make more content. I pay them 15$ a month so they don't do stuff like this. It's disgusting.
Now I will definitely drop my subscription.
Nobody is forcing you on anything, especially on paying for ESO+, that's your free will tbh
You can always quit the game and you got the 'Right to be forgotten'2 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
getting more money equals more content in game, if that's not compensation, than I dunno what it is
and, that image was a joke
IMO, it is NOT acceptable to force your customers to agree to selling their personal information for profit or to make more content. I pay them 15$ a month so they don't do stuff like this. It's disgusting.
Now I will definitely drop my subscription.
Nobody is forcing you on anything, especially on paying for ESO+, that's your free will tbh
You can always quit the game and you got the 'Right to be forgotten'
Of course, I am well aware of my options kid. I said I think it's wrong and just told you they aren't getting 15$ a month from me now.
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✭Maybe my classical liberal is showing here...but why is it suddenly acceptable to sell the information of a paying consumer?
I can understand this sort of thing on a free website, but paying for a service only to have the company providing that service turn around and sell my privacy to another company?
If money is becoming an issue, despite your lottery boxes and cash shop, despite your paid subscription and crown sales, even with preorders open for a new paid DLC, maybe it's time to rethink what you're doing?
If suddenly violating our privacy for cash is an acceptable option...is this a sign of things to come? Freemium incoming? Moving of all premium items to lottery boxes a la SWTOR?
I've sent my opt-out e-mail already, but this is concerning.26 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »I recommend anyone that has run the patch update to actually read the TOS that pops up on the first log.
They won't be putting ads in the game, but ZOS can now sell your personal information to 3rd party advertisers.
So, if I were you I would unlink any social network account you have from ZeniMax.
Yay, I have ignored my Facebook page for about 7 years now, and I set it up about 7 1/2 years ago. So, if they want to advertise to me on facebook, go ahead. I ain't listening.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"9 -
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They're just like every other company out there.So, ZOS will be selling our personal data in order to make bank? If this really is the case then...@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I didn't read any of this but I can tell you it defiantly says in game advertising and selling of all my personal data.
I've unsubbed all seven of my accounts and will not give ZOS another penny!
Seven?
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Tis a joke, I only have one.
OId EVE Online joke where people have multiple accounts often, when someone rage quits they threaten to unsub all x number of their accounts (I have three there, but only pay for one now).@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
getting more money equals more content in game, if that's not compensation, than I dunno what it is
and, that image was a joke
IMO, it is NOT acceptable to force your customers to agree to selling their personal information for profit or to make more content. I pay them 15$ a month so they don't do stuff like this. It's disgusting.
Now I will definitely drop my subscription.
Can I have your stuff?
But on a less trollish note: Did you read that there is an opt out choice? I posted the email to opt out right on the first page of this thread. More information, less rage pls.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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✭✭✭✭✭For example, we may work with Facebook (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page) to display targeted ads to you in Facebook. We may also work with others, such as Google Ads and DoubleClick (see their privacy policy, and ad preferences page), and Weborama (see their privacy policy and opt out page), to display ads to you on other third party sites, based on your use of our products, activities on our sites and services, or other interactions with us.
We may also, unless you have opted out, share certain information (such as your email address) with these and other third parties to assist them in better targeting our users within their services; you can opt-out of our sharing your personal information to target you this way by emailing us at ads@zenimax.com.
We will process your opt out in a reasonable amount of time; please note, that your opt out is only effective on a going-forward basis and not with respect to any information we have previously shared for these purposes. As noted above, you may also control how Google, Facebook and other third parties display certain ads to you, as explained further in their respective privacy policies and ad preferences pages.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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✭✭✭Yup. Walking around Wayrest you will see a Mountain Dew billboard attached to the castle. Vendors selling Doritos and Hot Pockets.1 -
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✭✭✭If they start in-game advertising I better get my big ass USMC housing sticker, 14 American flags and a new Lady Liberty polymorph.0331
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ThePaleItalian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
Do you honestly think ZoS is the only company? Facebook and Amazon do. Good lord. I am all out of my tin foil, does anyone else have any?Conan, what is good in life?
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.
PS4 Screen Name: The_Pale_Italian
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Solstice StormHaven - Magika Sorc
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Rhoric✭✭✭✭✭You are all acting like this hasn't happened before. Facebook does this all the time. Other games do this too. ZOS is just getting with the times.2 -
Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭ThePaleItalian wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
Do you honestly think ZoS is the only company? Facebook and Amazon do. Good lord. I am all out of my tin foil, does anyone else have any?
You need to read up on what tin foil hat actually means I believe. No I am not OK with them selling my personal information, especially identifiable information and information that generates spam. Typically, when people get used for profit they get some of that profit but we are essentially paying for a product and GIVING them information for free.
I'm not sure why you are ok with it "because other Companies do it" that is perhaps the most pathetic and weak response to having your personal data used without receiving any benefit. I am never ok with it, and think it's a disgusting practice and theft.
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Maotti✭✭✭✭✭
✭kyle.wilson wrote: »I recommend anyone that has run the patch update to actually read the TOS that pops up on the first log.
They won't be putting ads in the game, but ZOS can now sell your personal information to 3rd party advertisers.
So, if I were you I would unlink any social network account you have from ZeniMax.
Really? They better remove the name and shame rule aswell then.......PC EU1 -
ThePaleItalian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ThePaleItalian wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
Do you honestly think ZoS is the only company? Facebook and Amazon do. Good lord. I am all out of my tin foil, does anyone else have any?
You need to read up on what tin foil hat actually means I believe. No I am not OK with them selling my personal information, especially identifiable information and information that generates spam. Typically, when people get used for profit they get some of that profit but we are essentially paying for a product and GIVING them information for free.
I'm not sure why you are ok with it "because other Companies do it" that is perhaps the most pathetic and weak response to having your personal data used without receiving any benefit. I am never ok with it, and think it's a disgusting practice and theft.
You leave a digital footprint with everything text, video, email you send out. Being on the internet right now is giving me IP address, location and key strokes to those who can see it. You ever download an app on your phone? or a mobile game? They tell you right there a license agreement or access to your photos, contacts and location. Its all over the place.
Sorry, just being honest. You have giving your info away since ICQ and MySpace.Conan, what is good in life?
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.
PS4 Screen Name: The_Pale_Italian
ZweiHandler - Orc DK Tank
Solstice StormHaven - Magika Sorc
Oba Nobanaga - Stam NB6 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭People are shocked / complaining about this? Really?!
If you use Facebook or Amazon or the majority of apps on any smartphones or have any loyalty cards or basically do anything on the internet, at some point you have signed something like this. Either just deal with it or stop using the services.
Or see if you can find fun ways to mess with their algorithms by making their data worthless!4 -
Rhoric✭✭✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ThePaleItalian wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
Do you honestly think ZoS is the only company? Facebook and Amazon do. Good lord. I am all out of my tin foil, does anyone else have any?
You need to read up on what tin foil hat actually means I believe. No I am not OK with them selling my personal information, especially identifiable information and information that generates spam. Typically, when people get used for profit they get some of that profit but we are essentially paying for a product and GIVING them information for free.
I'm not sure why you are ok with it "because other Companies do it" that is perhaps the most pathetic and weak response to having your personal data used without receiving any benefit. I am never ok with it, and think it's a disgusting practice and theft.
Then you better get off the internet cause you are never gonna get away from all this.5 -
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✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »Of course, I am well aware of my options kid. I said I think it's wrong and just told you they aren't getting 15$ a month from me now.
He called you kid. That proves he's older and wiser and better than you. And stuff. You just got served, bruh.11 -
mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »ifDoubtNerfIt wrote: »
Mock all you want, it's not right that any Company make money off of your personal information without being compensated for it. Especially and email address that will involve receiving more spam.
getting more money equals more content in game, if that's not compensation, than I dunno what it is
and, that image was a joke
IMO, it is NOT acceptable to force your customers to agree to selling their personal information for profit or to make more content. I pay them 15$ a month so they don't do stuff like this. It's disgusting.
Now I will definitely drop my subscription.
Your position is fair in the abstract, but until ZOS start restricting content for people who've opted out of this information-sharing stuff, it's not applicable to this situation.
ZOS are telling people they're gonna be doing this and provide a painless means of opting out of it. I don't see what the big deal is.Edited by mesmerizedish on 20 March 2017 20:214
