PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »Well, you had to bump it to the front page again. Taking the first steps, are we?willlienellson wrote: »LOL thread revival. Epic. Let the mass triggering ensue.
PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »Well, you had to bump it to the front page again. Taking the first steps, are we?willlienellson wrote: »LOL thread revival. Epic. Let the mass triggering ensue.
DigitalShibby wrote: »I definitely didn't read this entire thread but to me ZOS picked these people because their ESO channels get views... all they are doing is play testing.. then later they will be using those YouTube channels of theirs to create "hype" for morrowind which in turn will drive sales. It's just business people, relax.
@Rickter
Despite the contempt I have for zerg players, they have a place in the game. But theirs isn't the only place. This isn't a 'zerg game' nor is it solely for large scale PvP. It's an open world sandbox and every play style should have a place. You're honestly looking too far into things and making some sweeping generalizations, just like the tin foil hat author of this thread. Fulfillment is a subjective thing, but I promise you most small scalers promote that play style not for 'street cred' but because it is intense, fun, and challenging. Whereas as running around spamming aoes while being carried by numbers is not.
What exactly are you afraid of? That they are gonna make zerging harder? lmao. Rest assured, no mechanical advantage will ever be more powerful than the sheer force of numbers.
no one was saying that ALL playstyles should not be accommodated. thats not the issue. the issue is that the small scale proponents are insisting that theirs is the best way, and unfortunately they do have the ear of the developers. have you heard of hte Council of PVPers? thats actually a thing. its real. Devs play every day. they are in normal communities (well they go for the ones they heard of) and they are influenced by the players they surround themselves with. @ZOS_RichLambert runs with some really elite PVE guilds, and I fear their influence is negative for him. why? because the 1% does not represent the 99%.
ZOS has very little professionalism in regards to their friendships and interactions with players.
This isn't a normal MMO or a normal MMO company. So accept that, enjoy the game and relax.
Or start making long, constructive, well thought out posts about the areas of gameplay you care about and how ZOS can improve.
StackonClown wrote: »ZOS has very little professionalism in regards to their friendships and interactions with players.
This isn't a normal MMO or a normal MMO company. So accept that, enjoy the game and relax.
Or start making long, constructive, well thought out posts about the areas of gameplay you care about and how ZOS can improve.
I already have 'started' long ago.
Here's a *short*, constructive, well thought out post about an area of gameplay I care about and how ZOS can improve :
[constructive post]
Get rid of the bots! - instead of Devs running dungeons they should examine how much botting is going on.... Get rid of the structures around the dolmens where the bots 'camp'.. develop better bot train detection.
[/constructive post]
Feel free to contribute yourself.
StackonClown wrote: »Another quote from earlier : "@ZOS_RichLambert runs with some really elite PVE guilds"
Again this is some kind of joke right?
Bungie does this as well: They listen to their few noisy Trials Streamers and ignore the rest of the player base. Unfortunately for Bungie, this has resulted in a huge round of nerfs this past month that impacted much of the game negatively, after which there has been a mass exodus from their game. Not only that, but now a lot of Destiny players don't care about the launch of Destiny 2, either; not too smart.
Hopefully Zenimax doesn't make the same mistake here.
Okay, whatever you do for your job, when you get home tonight don't log into ESO and instead do more of that job.
The devs are not sat in the office during work hours running vMoL with their player chums, if they're doing content with players (who may not be fully aware who they are still) then it will be in their off work hours.
Also developers are not gamemasters, it falls on the secuirty/gm team to sort out botting within the game, sadly ZOS seems to outsource this like other big MMO companies which means they have no one in their office actually looking into the issues.
I'm not concerned what you do for a job nor did I ask. I was only making a comparison of what you're asking which would relate to yourself.StackonClown wrote: »
Okay, whatever you do for your job, when you get home tonight don't log into ESO and instead do more of that job.
The devs are not sat in the office during work hours running vMoL with their player chums, if they're doing content with players (who may not be fully aware who they are still) then it will be in their off work hours.
Also developers are not gamemasters, it falls on the secuirty/gm team to sort out botting within the game, sadly ZOS seems to outsource this like other big MMO companies which means they have no one in their office actually looking into the issues.
What i do for a job is not your concern, dont give orders as if you are some self appointed authority in these forums.
How do you know what the devs do in office or off work hours? gimme a break
I can't see why you are acting like some ZOS spokesperson...
Never watched a ZOS stream or watched no life streamers on here. Why I DONT CARE about them, they are not good at eso they just play to much with meta builds I bet they have.
Even if they are not fully active within the game right now they were still players who displayed an open understanding to the games systems and issues. If they're not only streaming ESO then that just goes to show ZOS were looking for understanding than fame for the game.Riga_Mortis wrote: »Some of the streamers that attended have sinced moved onto For Honor as their main game, mustve been an awesome feedback session indeed.
TequilaFire wrote: »Wonder when the non disclosure is up, would be interested in hearing some real feedback from those that went to ZOS not all this speculation from forum users.
You mean watching Fengrush farm nodes for six hours isn't interesting viewing? Damn.Perhaps the reason some of these Streamers are taking a break from the game is because Morrowind will not be released for several more months and as of right now the ONLY thing new added to the game was Homestead, which I doubt is something many Streamers have any interested in streaming. Also, with the non-disclosure, they cannot even comment about it until ZOS gives the OK... I'm betting when Morrowind goes to PTS, you'll see a LOT more Streamers returning.
You mean watching Fengrush farm nodes for six hours isn't interesting viewing? Damn.Perhaps the reason some of these Streamers are taking a break from the game is because Morrowind will not be released for several more months and as of right now the ONLY thing new added to the game was Homestead, which I doubt is something many Streamers have any interested in streaming. Also, with the non-disclosure, they cannot even comment about it until ZOS gives the OK... I'm betting when Morrowind goes to PTS, you'll see a LOT more Streamers returning.
You mean watching Fengrush farm nodes for six hours isn't interesting viewing? Damn.Perhaps the reason some of these Streamers are taking a break from the game is because Morrowind will not be released for several more months and as of right now the ONLY thing new added to the game was Homestead, which I doubt is something many Streamers have any interested in streaming. Also, with the non-disclosure, they cannot even comment about it until ZOS gives the OK... I'm betting when Morrowind goes to PTS, you'll see a LOT more Streamers returning.
Depends on the rant that comes with it
next time i'd like to know how and what i should comment on on the forums, i'll come ask you guys.
the fact that you three seem to think you can tell me what to post and where to post is a little disturbing. its like, entitlement. . .
Riga_Mortis wrote: »Some of the streamers that attended have sinced moved onto For Honor as their main game, mustve been an awesome feedback session indeed.
The fact that those posts produce so little change or even response is a large part of the frustration that inspired this thread originally.ZOS has very little professionalism in regards to their friendships and interactions with players.
This isn't a normal MMO or a normal MMO company. So accept that, enjoy the game and relax.
Or start making long, constructive, well thought out posts about the areas of gameplay you care about and how ZOS can improve.
Do we know they were only elite gamer celebs? We only know a few of the people invited.willlienellson wrote: »The fact that those posts produce so little change or even response is a large part of the frustration that inspired this thread originally.ZOS has very little professionalism in regards to their friendships and interactions with players.
This isn't a normal MMO or a normal MMO company. So accept that, enjoy the game and relax.
Or start making long, constructive, well thought out posts about the areas of gameplay you care about and how ZOS can improve.
If they had a more responsive relationship with their average players....if they actually listened to the feedback of those average players, then the little Baltimore Sleepover wouldn't be as much of a problem because it would represent a fraction of our constructive communication with Zos instead of the bulk of it. But when they roundly ignore mountains of feedback and broad consensus, then events like that which took place really present a problem.
Consider this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/313666/11-obvious-flaws-and-11-easy-fixes-housing/p1
52 Insightful, 113 Agree, 45 Awesome.....and almost no arguments within the thread. It represented broad consensus on the PTS and was posted over 30 days before the end of the PTS.
It never even got a token Zos reply.
So it is in the context of constructive threads with broad consensus like that being completely ignored that having these special events with a small minority of elite gamer celebrities is especially irritating.
willlienellson wrote: »The fact that those posts produce so little change or even response is a large part of the frustration that inspired this thread originally.ZOS has very little professionalism in regards to their friendships and interactions with players.
This isn't a normal MMO or a normal MMO company. So accept that, enjoy the game and relax.
Or start making long, constructive, well thought out posts about the areas of gameplay you care about and how ZOS can improve.
If they had a more responsive relationship with their average players....if they actually listened to the feedback of those average players, then the little Baltimore Sleepover wouldn't be as much of a problem because it would represent a fraction of our constructive communication with Zos instead of the bulk of it. But when they roundly ignore mountains of feedback and broad consensus, then events like that which took place really present a problem.
Consider this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/313666/11-obvious-flaws-and-11-easy-fixes-housing/p1
52 Insightful, 113 Agree, 45 Awesome.....and almost no arguments within the thread. It represented broad consensus on the PTS and was posted over 30 days before the end of the PTS.
It never even got a token Zos reply.
So it is in the context of constructive threads with broad consensus like that being completely ignored that having these special events with a small minority of elite gamer celebrities is especially irritating.