Removal of Proc Sets from PvP Confirmed!

Francescolg

So... where is the confirmation?
lol

Izaki

Joy_Division wrote: »

I see people disagree with me, but I don;t want proc sets removed from PvP because they make for a variety of playstyls, builds, and strategies. What I want is the removal of getting hit with 3 simultaneous damage procs. So I prefer @ZOS_RichLambert 's news to the OP's rumor-mongering.

^ This guy gets it ^

ScooberSteve

I think the should allow people to use 4 proc sets ao us newer players keep up with everyone else

Aistis1990

It would be so cool Let's say you could not equip these items in pvp areas :P So you can use all normal sets anywhere and not have them useless. More set pieces as shoulder and helmet goes as extra set piece ... I like it

Knootewoot

So when will we, the customers, learn about the ideas?

SwaminoNowlino

Knootewoot wrote: »

So when will we, the customers, learn about the ideas?

No ETA

LegacyDM

MickeyBN wrote: »

Hey ZOS! Add this to the end of the tooltip for proc sets, are you ready? Here goes...

"Deals 60% less damage in Cyrodiil."

TA DAAA!! PvE'rs don't need to break out the Kleenex and PvP'ers can no longer one shot anyone.

Problem solved.

This wouldn't work. Some sets currently do significantly less damage then others. Grothdarr for example, it deals straight elemental damage over time. With 100 points in elemental/magic cp the tooltip on my Breton is around 2600. Cut that in half with battle spirit that's about 1300 damage a tick before armor mitigations and resistances kick in. Now reduce it another 60% and it's only doing 520 damage before resists. Your solution would basically nerf a monster set into uselessness before resists even kick in. 520 damage a tick isn't even worth a tickle. I think grothdar, and skoria, are in a good spot right now.

Tremorscale, valedreth, Selene, viper, widow maker, infernal guardian, and malubeth, all need to be toned down.

Zos needs to take a discretionary approach to fixing proc sets not a one size fits all nerf hammer.

Frondale

I paid good money from the gold vendor for my Gold Viper Rings. Paid 500ap and bought second for 250 gold. For me that was not cheap as I had not much AP built up. I trust you ZOS will honor my payment in a meaningful way and every other person who purchased them. There is no money back guarantee on this purchase.

If they remove any of the procs too much then we may as well all lie down in a row like ducks and just let the Sorc Ulti and Templar poo jabbers steam train over the top of us.

Yes I have a Veli/ Viper set but hey I still die. I am not invincible. I am not even an awesome PVPer. I am not asking for anything to get nerfed, in fact I am sick of the nerf this and nerf that. I like so many just need to learn to play till I get better at counter attacking.

So many changes all the time, how does one keep up and settle into getting better when you need to relearn way too much.

ScooberSteve

Frondale wrote: »

I paid good money from the gold vendor for my Gold Viper Rings. Paid 500ap and bought second for 250 gold. For me that was not cheap as I had not much AP built up. I trust you ZOS will honor my payment in a meaningful way and every other person who purchased them. There is no money back guarantee on this purchase.

If they remove any of the procs too much then we may as well all lie down in a row like ducks and just let the Sorc Ulti and Templar poo jabbers steam train over the top of us.

Yes I have a Veli/ Viper set but hey I still die. I am not invincible. I am not even an awesome PVPer. I am not asking for anything to get nerfed, in fact I am sick of the nerf this and nerf that. I like so many just need to learn to play till I get better at counter attacking.

So many changes all the time, how does one keep up and settle into getting better when you need to relearn way too much.

Its people like you thats what is wrong with pvp. Wont spend any ap on siege or repair kits too busy saving for ap vendor items and at the same time stealing other peoples siege

Thrasher91604

And this is why these forums are trash. Just a bunch of trolls and cry babes, posting zero useful information.

Except for reading dev posts, I am done here.

HoloYoitsu

Frondale wrote: »

I paid good money from the gold vendor for my Gold Viper Rings. Paid 500ap and bought second for 250 gold. For me that was not cheap as I had not much AP built up. I trust you ZOS will honor my payment in a meaningful way and every other person who purchased them. There is no money back guarantee on this purchase.

If they remove any of the procs too much then we may as well all lie down in a row like ducks and just let the Sorc Ulti and Templar poo jabbers steam train over the top of us.

Yes I have a Veli/ Viper set but hey I still die. I am not invincible. I am not even an awesome PVPer. I am not asking for anything to get nerfed, in fact I am sick of the nerf this and nerf that. I like so many just need to learn to play till I get better at counter attacking.

So many changes all the time, how does one keep up and settle into getting better when you need to relearn way too much.

This is going to sound harsh, but you need to hear it for your own good: learn to play.

• Anyone who claims they need proc sets to fight against non proc sets is a complete potato. What you need is not proc sets handing you free damage for breathing every 4 seconds, you need to improve your personal skill.
• Saying you still die doesn't mean anything. Just as I can post this without using proc sets -
  
  - and say "well I don't die, so proc sets are fine". It wouldn't be true, because whether or not you die to procs or whether or not you die as a proc set user is immaterial. The problem is that proc sets add an inherently unbalanced aspect to combat that has no place in a healthy PvP environment.
• Telling me you paid a bunch of AP for it so ZOS is obliged to not nerf it is asinine. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is your first ever mmo, but what do you have to say to the people who invested tons into other over performing sets over the past 2.5 years, only to have them nerfed? Stuff like Twin Sisters? I would hope you would have the integrity to agree that the overall health of the game you play is more important than you getting to keep your over performing shiney toy.

Frondale

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Its people like you thats what is wrong with pvp. Wont spend any ap on siege or repair kits too busy saving for ap vendor items and at the same time stealing other peoples siege[/quote]

Hi ScooberSteve,

What you have assumed is actually completely and utterly wrong of my character.

I have been taught the proper etiquette of PVP actually by a couple of very good guilds from the very start of the game.
I always carry at least 5 or 6 of each siege, I always carry forward camps and repair stones/wood for keeps. I NEVER steal other peoples sieges.
I ALWAYS have my own. I run 2 to 3 sieges at a time depending on circumstances.

So please, making assumptions that you have that I leech is not ok.

I worked hard to grind the AP for my Viper ring and kept myself stocked with sieges the whole time.

Fron

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All Damage Proc sets will change to a DoT in my opinion which can be cleansed. You heard it predicted here first....

Waffennacht

@Frondale and I spent tons on my gold nirnhoned swords and staffs, but guess what too @$!#ing bad.

Just because you spent gold on an item doesn't mean a thing.

Edit: and I think them becoming a DoT is a horrid idea, I dunno where that idea came from but I hope it doesn't happen.

LegacyDM

Waffennacht wrote: »

@Frondale and I spent tons on my gold nirnhoned swords and staffs, but guess what too @$!#ing bad.

Just because you spent gold on an item doesn't mean a thing.

Edit: and I think them becoming a DoT is a horrid idea, I dunno where that idea came from but I hope it doesn't happen.

Why not? Many sets are dots and work fine. You can still stack dots and dot sets to do good damage...

ScooberSteve

The good thing about eso is that it requires some skill to play. Proc sets were just a step in the wrong direction.

Sandman929

Frondale wrote: »

I paid good money from the gold vendor for my Gold Viper Rings. Paid 500ap and bought second for 250 gold. For me that was not cheap as I had not much AP built up. I trust you ZOS will honor my payment in a meaningful way and every other person who purchased them. There is no money back guarantee on this purchase.

If they remove any of the procs too much then we may as well all lie down in a row like ducks and just let the Sorc Ulti and Templar poo jabbers steam train over the top of us.

Yes I have a Veli/ Viper set but hey I still die. I am not invincible. I am not even an awesome PVPer. I am not asking for anything to get nerfed, in fact I am sick of the nerf this and nerf that. I like so many just need to learn to play till I get better at counter attacking.

So many changes all the time, how does one keep up and settle into getting better when you need to relearn way too much.

I don't know what to say besides buyer beware. When the proc sets started rolling out in full force, I don't know how anyone could look at it and think this was the future of good PvP and that it would never get nerfed. But if you dove head first into the high damage/low skill meta and spent more than you're comfortable losing...well, that's a shame, because ZOS is clearly planning to do something about these sets and it's probably not going to be something that will make you happy with your purchase.

Xvorg

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