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Removal of Proc Sets from PvP Confirmed!
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Yea it really shows how you just want to defend your proc sets I get it you don't want your cheese removed its ok o get it.You can finally get kills now its ok.You can not get killed by something to know if its broken or not.A set that has a 50% chance to proc and adds a 70% snare to a play every 4 seconds yea a monrky could tell how broken that is.Or that having a set that proc on any damage you deal doesn't make since I'd just bad game design.Anti_Virus wrote: »
You be right if I actually died to proc Set's. Unlike you I actually have a build that can survive it,but hey magic proc sets don't proc twice or hit above 8k damage unlike Selene, tremor,viper but hey a proc scrub like you will do anything they can to defend their cheese I see.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Believe it or not I really don't care I have only played 2 COD that was world at war and original black ops.Never really enjoyed it more of a Battlefield guy.Hey always thought you had a problem with reading this confirms my suspicions.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Yes my bias as a person who only play stam who only has stambuilds are fine with Magic proc Set's.A person who have a problem with Skoria is a scrub.Vd is broken and only people who play in zergs get killed by it.Only bad players get killed by VD.Grothadar also broken where its proc chance is broken and is procing more than it should when Zos fix that Grothadar will be fine.Anti_Virus wrote: »
That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.Sandman929 wrote: »Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.
And just leave in Valkyn skoria, Grondar, and VD? The bias is showing.
Hey but that's my opinion on a player who only play stam and has never PVP on a magic build on proc sets.
What? Oh and judging by the use of the word 'scrub' you mist be one of those main stream immature COD kids.
g'day mate.
Cool, I didn't even acount your own contradiction in your statement. If people are "scrubs" for losing againt Valkyn skoria, then doen't that make you one if you lose against stamina based proc sets?
The more you know!
Then why QQ about request for them to be removed? More contradictions.
The more you know?
Again like I said I don't play magic builds and they barely do any damage while also having to change your build to proc.Your just arguing just to argue.Its ok man go head and finish letting your sets kills people for you.Anti_Virus wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »
That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.Sandman929 wrote: »Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.
And just leave in Valkyn skoria, Grondar, and VD? The bias is showing.
Skoria only has a 8% chance to proc and it has to be from damage over time effects. Skoria is fine. all proc sets should work like skoria or kena. The magicka proc sets honestly don't feel all that op, and aren't as difficult to play around. The stamina proc sets are literally one shotting people. Which is ridiculous.
Yeah, well it's good but not over the top like stam based ones, still the point was to address the hypocrisy of some Magicka based players.
Even though we all hate proc based sets in general these guys hate stamina based builds so much they are willing to defend magicka based proc sets even though they claim that hate ALL kinds just to be in spite of others.
"If it's magicka based it CAN'T be OP"
Process sets should be for defense or buffs like kena or blood spawn.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Comparing Skoria to the recently added Stamina-based sets that proc damage is just silly and a good example of someone running out of or being completely out of valid arguments.
What do you want to say that a proccset with 8% chance on damage over time effects can not be compared to something with 50% on taunt or 100% every 4s?
That´s quibble!<Noricum>
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Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Comparing Skoria to the recently added Stamina-based sets that proc damage is just silly and a good example of someone running out of or being completely out of valid arguments.
Valkyn skoria just as annoying as Velidreth
Grothadar just annoying as Tremorscale
Infernal guardian just as annoying as Kra'gas
Vicious death just as annoying as viper
Shield breaker just as annoying as galarions revenge
Proc sets in general need to go.
Don't know if you actually read my posts or if you're just cherry picking to make yours strong. Of you are then fail and try again.
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Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
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Yea it really shows how you just want to defend your proc sets I get it you don't want your cheese removed its ok o get it.You can finally get kills now its ok.You can not get killed by something to know if its broken or not.A set that has a 50% chance to proc and adds a 70% snare to a play every 4 seconds yea a monrky could tell how broken that is.Or that having a set that proc on any damage you deal doesn't make since I'd just bad game design.Anti_Virus wrote: »
You be right if I actually died to proc Set's. Unlike you I actually have a build that can survive it,but hey magic proc sets don't proc twice or hit above 8k damage unlike Selene, tremor,viper but hey a proc scrub like you will do anything they can to defend their cheese I see.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Believe it or not I really don't care I have only played 2 COD that was world at war and original black ops.Never really enjoyed it more of a Battlefield guy.Hey always thought you had a problem with reading this confirms my suspicions.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Yes my bias as a person who only play stam who only has stambuilds are fine with Magic proc Set's.A person who have a problem with Skoria is a scrub.Vd is broken and only people who play in zergs get killed by it.Only bad players get killed by VD.Grothadar also broken where its proc chance is broken and is procing more than it should when Zos fix that Grothadar will be fine.Anti_Virus wrote: »
That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.Sandman929 wrote: »Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.
And just leave in Valkyn skoria, Grondar, and VD? The bias is showing.
Hey but that's my opinion on a player who only play stam and has never PVP on a magic build on proc sets.
What? Oh and judging by the use of the word 'scrub' you mist be one of those main stream immature COD kids.
g'day mate.
Cool, I didn't even acount your own contradiction in your statement. If people are "scrubs" for losing againt Valkyn skoria, then doen't that make you one if you lose against stamina based proc sets?
The more you know!
Then why QQ about request for them to be removed? More contradictions.
The more you know?
Again like I said I don't play magic builds and they barely do any damage while also having to change your build to proc.Your just arguing just to argue.Its ok man go head and finish letting your sets kills people for you.Anti_Virus wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »
That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.Sandman929 wrote: »Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.
And just leave in Valkyn skoria, Grondar, and VD? The bias is showing.
Skoria only has a 8% chance to proc and it has to be from damage over time effects. Skoria is fine. all proc sets should work like skoria or kena. The magicka proc sets honestly don't feel all that op, and aren't as difficult to play around. The stamina proc sets are literally one shotting people. Which is ridiculous.
Yeah, well it's good but not over the top like stam based ones, still the point was to address the hypocrisy of some Magicka based players.
Even though we all hate proc based sets in general these guys hate stamina based builds so much they are willing to defend magicka based proc sets even though they claim that hate ALL kinds just to be in spite of others.
"If it's magicka based it CAN'T be OP"
Process sets should be for defense or buffs like kena or blood spawn.
Ad hominem? Check ( called me a scrub)
Hasty generalization? Check ( assumed I used proc sets)
Bias? Check (bold)
Dogmatic? Check. (reinforced your opinion as fact)
2/10 try again.
Oh and if you don't know what those mean look them up.Edited by [Deleted User] on 20 November 2016 20:07Power Wealth And Influence.0 -
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How can one not try to read your posts when all you do is double and triple post where ever you go, trying to defend completely OP Stamina proc gear while at the same time crying about Eye of Bullcrap.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Comparing Skoria to the recently added Stamina-based sets that proc damage is just silly and a good example of someone running out of or being completely out of valid arguments.
Valkyn skoria just as annoying as Velidreth
Grothadar just annoying as Tremorscale
Infernal guardian just as annoying as Kra'gas
Vicious death just as annoying as viper
Shield breaker just as annoying as galarions revenge
Proc sets in general need to go.
Don't know if you actually read my posts or if you're just cherry picking to make yours strong. Of you are then fail and try again.
It's people like you and their agendas that make these kinds of discussions so tedious.
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✭Ok if you die to Galarions Revenge you should just stop playing right now.
Well not really a assumption someone who defends them like you do everyone knows you use proc sets you don't have to keep lying dude we know.the truth.Yes am bias because I don't play magic builds and know their not op.Grow up kid.When they Nerf proc sets I hope you learn how to kill players without proc sets.It will make you a better player not having you set deal damage for you.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Yea it really shows how you just want to defend your proc sets I get it you don't want your cheese removed its ok o get it.You can finally get kills now its ok.You can not get killed by something to know if its broken or not.A set that has a 50% chance to proc and adds a 70% snare to a play every 4 seconds yea a monrky could tell how broken that is.Or that having a set that proc on any damage you deal doesn't make since I'd just bad game design.Anti_Virus wrote: »
You be right if I actually died to proc Set's. Unlike you I actually have a build that can survive it,but hey magic proc sets don't proc twice or hit above 8k damage unlike Selene, tremor,viper but hey a proc scrub like you will do anything they can to defend their cheese I see.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Believe it or not I really don't care I have only played 2 COD that was world at war and original black ops.Never really enjoyed it more of a Battlefield guy.Hey always thought you had a problem with reading this confirms my suspicions.Anti_Virus wrote: »
Yes my bias as a person who only play stam who only has stambuilds are fine with Magic proc Set's.A person who have a problem with Skoria is a scrub.Vd is broken and only people who play in zergs get killed by it.Only bad players get killed by VD.Grothadar also broken where its proc chance is broken and is procing more than it should when Zos fix that Grothadar will be fine.Anti_Virus wrote: »
That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.Sandman929 wrote: »Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.
And just leave in Valkyn skoria, Grondar, and VD? The bias is showing.
Hey but that's my opinion on a player who only play stam and has never PVP on a magic build on proc sets.
What? Oh and judging by the use of the word 'scrub' you mist be one of those main stream immature COD kids.
g'day mate.
Cool, I didn't even acount your own contradiction in your statement. If people are "scrubs" for losing againt Valkyn skoria, then doen't that make you one if you lose against stamina based proc sets?
The more you know!
Then why QQ about request for them to be removed? More contradictions.
The more you know?
Again like I said I don't play magic builds and they barely do any damage while also having to change your build to proc.Your just arguing just to argue.Its ok man go head and finish letting your sets kills people for you.Anti_Virus wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »
That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.Sandman929 wrote: »Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.
And just leave in Valkyn skoria, Grondar, and VD? The bias is showing.
Skoria only has a 8% chance to proc and it has to be from damage over time effects. Skoria is fine. all proc sets should work like skoria or kena. The magicka proc sets honestly don't feel all that op, and aren't as difficult to play around. The stamina proc sets are literally one shotting people. Which is ridiculous.
Yeah, well it's good but not over the top like stam based ones, still the point was to address the hypocrisy of some Magicka based players.
Even though we all hate proc based sets in general these guys hate stamina based builds so much they are willing to defend magicka based proc sets even though they claim that hate ALL kinds just to be in spite of others.
"If it's magicka based it CAN'T be OP"
Process sets should be for defense or buffs like kena or blood spawn.
Ad hominem? Check ( called me a scrub)
Hasty generalization? Check ( assumed I used proc sets)
Bias? Check (bold)
Dogmatic? Check. (reinforced your opinion as fact)
2/10 try again.
Oh and if you don't know what those mean look them up.
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Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
How can one not try to read your posts when all you do is double and triple post where ever you go, trying to defend completely OP Stamina proc gear while at the same time crying about Eye of Bullcrap.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Comparing Skoria to the recently added Stamina-based sets that proc damage is just silly and a good example of someone running out of or being completely out of valid arguments.
Valkyn skoria just as annoying as Velidreth
Grothadar just annoying as Tremorscale
Infernal guardian just as annoying as Kra'gas
Vicious death just as annoying as viper
Shield breaker just as annoying as galarions revenge
Proc sets in general need to go.
Don't know if you actually read my posts or if you're just cherry picking to make yours strong. Of you are then fail and try again.
It's people like you and their agendas that make these kinds of discussions so tedious.
#triggered
Taken out of context, I never defended stam proc sets, both are OP and I advocate to remove them all. If you want to defend magicka procs then that up to you and it's you opinion if you believe they suck. Just as its my opinion I believe that they are both OP.
Never complained about "eye of bullcrap" that's you man. Straw man here.
Agenda huh? You're at the point of no return. Seems people like you just resort to false claims and insults to get your point across.
Try again.
Troll level increases to 10.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
How can one not try to read your posts when all you do is double and triple post where ever you go, trying to defend completely OP Stamina proc gear while at the same time crying about Eye of Bullcrap.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Comparing Skoria to the recently added Stamina-based sets that proc damage is just silly and a good example of someone running out of or being completely out of valid arguments.
Valkyn skoria just as annoying as Velidreth
Grothadar just annoying as Tremorscale
Infernal guardian just as annoying as Kra'gas
Vicious death just as annoying as viper
Shield breaker just as annoying as galarions revenge
Proc sets in general need to go.
Don't know if you actually read my posts or if you're just cherry picking to make yours strong. Of you are then fail and try again.
It's people like you and their agendas that make these kinds of discussions so tedious.
#triggered
Taken out of context, I never defended stam proc sets, both are OP and I advocate to remove them all. If you want to defend magicka procs then that up to you and it's you opinion if you believe they suck. Just as its my opinion I believe that they are both OP.
Never complained about "eye of bullcrap" that's you man. Straw man here.
Agenda huh? You're at the point of no return. Seems people like you just resort to false claims and insults to get your point across.
Try again.
Troll level increases to 10.
Well to be perfectly honest - claiming for magica sets (even only mentioning galerios revenge in this context) to be in the same ballpark of OP as stamina sets can be misunderstood as some form of personal bias on that matter.
Magica procc sets are not as widely used because when compared to stamina ones they do have very clear cut downsides on their usability. The exception being valkyn on DK and templar - maybe.<Noricum>
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✭Do you guys hear yourselves? You'd rather have some 8% chance burst be meta then one that can be reasonably predicted and played with? It's like I am the only one that doesn't want PvP to be a RNG-fest. Say what you want about the stam proc sets, but at least the % chance is high enough that it is not straight luck-based PvP.
Longer CDs are all that are needed. Keep proc chance very high and the burst damage is fine.
And most importantly, remove ability to stack proc sets.Edited by Stamden on 20 November 2016 22:03PC NA
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MickeyBN✭✭✭✭I'm still waiting to hear back from @ZOS_JessicaFolsom about how they broke animation cancelling after DB, that was six months ago.
I'm sure as hell not holding my breath over this.
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mubzander✭✭I don't understand these posts, even if proc sets do get removed it makes zero difference, people will find another cheese build.
It's difficult for developers to balance a game, people will always find something that's OP. Sooner people accept that, the better.1 -
Laggus✭✭✭✭silky_soft wrote: »ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
So you just going to nerf them by 50%? Then by 50% again and then 50% that it could proc its self to nerf 50% more?
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ScooberSteve✭✭✭✭silky_soft wrote: »ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
So you just going to nerf them by 50%? Then by 50% again and then 50% that it could proc its self to nerf 50% more?
No..there will be even more proc sets added (probably).
Unfortunately that is probably the case. All ZOS want is for us to mindlessly grind for gear forever so we can dumb down our skill as pvpers. All people already do is spam one skill and let procs take care of the rest.0 -
MickeyBN✭✭✭✭Hey ZOS! Add this to the end of the tooltip for proc sets, are you ready? Here goes...
"Deals 60% less damage in Cyrodiil."
TA DAAA!! PvE'rs don't need to break out the Kleenex and PvP'ers can no longer one shot anyone.
Problem solved.Vaelerys Nightborn - Bosmer Nightblade PC NA1 -
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True, I already farmed the sets that'll probably be cheese.I don't understand these posts, even if proc sets do get removed it makes zero difference, people will find another cheese build.
It's difficult for developers to balance a game, people will always find something that's OP. Sooner people accept that, the better.
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SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
The problem @ZOS_RichLambert is you can't just pop into a thread and say something vague like this and then disappear while the numerous forum posts and questions go unanswered. The uncertainty you create drives people to bicker, but also drives people like me away.
The loot system in this game is atrocious. It is not fun to run the same dungeon 500+ times and still haven't even seen the weapon I want. Much less since my optimal build uses two dungeon 5 piece sets where I need specific traits. I have spent hours upon hours farming them. And still haven't gotten the necessary pieces.
Then you come in and drop a comment like this and how does this make the player base feel? What do you consider to be a "proc set?" What are you looking at fixing and what aren't you? The uncertainty you create with a statement like this is maddening. One of my sets technically has a "proc," but its not a viper style damage proc nor is it a monster set. The hours upon hours of farming looks a lot less worthwhile when stuff like this is said, there continues to be no updates on the horrible loot system, and rumors of CP 180 gear sit out there unanswered. So why should I continue to play this game and invest hours of time into my character when the devs refuse to 1) test things before implementing them and 2) provide the player base with answers?
I saw this post, became angry, and immediately went and downloaded two other games. Haven't been back on ESO since. Why continue running VMA when you can literally run it thousands of times and never get your ideal weapon? Why continue farming dungeons thousands of times when you can be mathematically excluded from getting the item(s) you want? Especially why do that when one of the Dev's puts out some vague statement about impending changes? Its time for the devs to come out of the dark and start communicating with the players. Get ESO Live running again and start actually answering questions on the forums.Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
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kuro-dono✭✭✭✭why the hell you guys need your ultimate badass superior epic e peen elite *** omfg gear/skills to have fun? just calm down, and play and have fun. SIMPLE AS THAT.
ps: and no, i dont use proc sets, i use ulti build that focus on spamming negates on enemy raids, so no cheese or op:ness, and i use half cp 140 and 1/3 150 and rest 160cp i have loads of fun.Edited by kuro-dono on 21 November 2016 15:270 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭why the hell you guys need your ultimate badass superior epic e peen elite *** omfg gear/skills to have fun? just calm down, and play and have fun. SIMPLE AS THAT.
ps: and no, i dont use proc sets, i use ulti build that focus on spamming negates on enemy raids, so no cheese or op:ness, and i use half cp 140 and 1/3 150 and rest 160cp i have loads of fun.
You do realize those ultimate generation sets are also proc sets, right? Bloodspawn = Chance to proc ult generation on damage taken. Tava's Favor = Proc ultimate regeneration on dodge.
If you're wearing sub optimal, low level gear and running in a group spamming ults and heals, then good for you. Play how you want and all of that. But some of us choose not to run in a gigantic group and thus need to optimize builds in order to succeed.Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
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✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »Comparing Skoria to the recently added Stamina-based sets that proc damage is just silly and a good example of someone running out of or being completely out of valid arguments.
Valkyn skoria just as annoying as Velidreth
Grothadar just annoying as Tremorscale
Infernal guardian just as annoying as Kra'gas
Vicious death just as annoying as viper
Shield breaker just as annoying as galarions revenge
Proc sets in general need to go.
Don't know if you actually read my posts or if you're just cherry picking to make yours strong. Of you are then fail and try again.
No way.
Skoria procs only DOTS. You have higher chances of proccing it if you use poison, but most magicka builds prefer to stay with disease runes inestad of poison, because you need to counter vigor. But to apply it consistently you need to put 2 or 3 dots per attack and that's quite difficult for magicka builds since most dots are in melee range (there are some exceptions like crippling, agony, entropy and destro reach), and adding more than 2 to your bar means you are losing burst potential. Velidred has a 20% chance dmg. A good rotation with light attacks in middle could get a procs each 5 attacks
Grothdarr proc chance is quite lower that tremor and has no CC associated. You can walk away from the lava pools. Considering that has a 10% chance, the nly chance to use it properly is with a hard CC, but you cannot CC your enemy on every attack
Infernal guardian needs to be tuned down, I agree. But again, it works on shields, not on dmg done. Kra'gh procs chance is on every attack.
Vicious death only works on kills. Viper works on every single melee attack. Has a 4 secs CD and that's all. VD is usefull only if you are a bomber who likes to die a lot.
Galerions is the most crappy set in all the Imperial City patch. It procs only on basic attacks. Against a stamina build in medium armor is pretty useless because of the dodge roll. If you miss one of those 6 basic attacks, you are underperforming. Even more, the extra dmg you do is crappy crappy (near 2.5K in cyro due to BS). On the other hand, though shieldbreaker is a bad set, it works pretty well against shielded mages, because mages can't dodge roll as much as stam users, and every single light attack deals dmg against the shield user.
Magicka sets work as they should at the point that magicka users do not rely on them to do dmg. On the other hand, Stam users without proc sets underperform heavily (unless they are really, really good)Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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Tyvarra✭✭✭It has become awefully quiet. Not only here in the "nerf proc sets" part, but all over the forums. Also no ESO Live lately? Hellohoooo devs are you still out there? Any news to the current state of the game?Please fix the game!0 -
Remorseless✭✭✭It has become awefully quiet. Not only here in the "nerf proc sets" part, but all over the forums. Also no ESO Live lately? Hellohoooo devs are you still out there? Any news to the current state of the game?
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Vythri✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
You know, instead of telling the community what your idea is, and having an open discussion on whether it's actually a good idea or not. Who needs to do that right?2 -
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✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
You know, instead of telling the community what your idea is, and having an open discussion on whether it's actually a good idea or not. Who needs to do that right?
Why should they? Forums are just a mixed bag of opinions and if he throws out a statement he's just going to start a fuss.
There are a few types of people here:
1) People who think proc sets are the devil and want nothing more than to see them removed or gutted
2) People who knowingly stack and abuse proc sets for cheese and want them to stay
3) People who are willing to see the upside and downside to proc sets and can understand reasonable changes that would need to happen
Unfortunately, most people do not fall in group 3.PC NA
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✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
I got a great idea.
Viper: 10% to proc on hit. When procces, 50% change to deal damage to target and 50% to damage yourself.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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ScooberSteve✭✭✭✭The problem with proc sets is that you have to wear heavy or stack proc sets to stay competitive. Basically means there is 2 basic types of builds that everyones using. Tankturd or proctard. I think the game has lost the versatility in pvp which we all love.Edited by ScooberSteve on 25 November 2016 11:361
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MickeyBN✭✭✭✭ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
You know, instead of telling the community what your idea is, and having an open discussion on whether it's actually a good idea or not. Who needs to do that right?
This.
This is exactly why ZOS are hands down one of the worst game developers out there, because they don't communicate with their players.Vaelerys Nightborn - Bosmer Nightblade PC NA0
