Removal of Proc Sets from PvP Confirmed!

Rohamad_Ali

I knew it was too good to be true .

Waffennacht

Thanks

Im all for adjustment, but flat out removal? My poor gold nirnhoned weapon remembers when he was once BiS and doesn't want more worthless gold friends

Paraflex

All that's needed is lessen the effectiveness of proc sets...lower rates,lower dmg,shorter duration,less resources back.

I'm sure the last thing they want to do is discourage people who farmed for perfect impen pieces and turned them yellow.

Sandman929

Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.

Moglijuana

Sandman929 wrote: »

Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.

Or, don't expect the Devs to get rid of their stinky cheese XD.

alext89

decided to do some pvp. in ic, first 3 players i fight kill me whit proc set. 2 x tremoscale, stam dk and stam sorc. also tanky. third one, nb whit viper + selene.

im logging out again....

Kutsuu

raasdal wrote: »

I am personally super hyped about this. I was concerned that they would do individual "balancing". You know, reducing damage on that set, increasing cooldown on this set, etc. etc. - which would just be a bandaid. I am very excited about the decision they took on just removing the proc ability on sets alltogether, when in Cyrodiil. RIP proc addicts.Cant wait for the update to hit the servers...

You should really edit your post and include Rich Lambert's quote to offset your lie.

Jaronking

Sandman929 wrote: »

Perhaps the lesson here is, if you're running something that seems ridiculously OP, don't gold it.

That's a good lesson to learn. I prefer a flat removal of proc sets like viper,Selene ,red mountain from PVP.While also fixing Tremor scale would go a long way of fixing people issue's with proc sets.

Thelon

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

WhiteMage

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just want to let you know that we're exploring some solutions for the current situation with proc sets. When we have the details nailed down, we'll be sure to share them with you.

This is what I believe the OP is referring to. Not sure how he got removal of proc sets from it (though that would be great).

They say fake news is on the rise...

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Sandman929 wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

Just out of curiousity, were they tested before they were introduced?

You mean you couldn't tell, lol

Immovablestone

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

This is hilarious customer service, 9/10 responses make it seem like this company is run by entitled 20-somethings on a power trip...

If you hadn't created the game equivalent of crack for classic RPG'ers and Elder Scrolls fans, you'd be out of business by now with that attitude. You'd probably have double the population if you cleaned up your PR.

Lava_Croft

"Proc sets removed from PvP."

I hope people realized that "proc sets" means every single set of gear that starts a special process once a certain condition is met.

Still cheering?

Sandman929

Lava_Croft wrote: »

"Proc sets removed from PvP."

I hope people realized that "proc sets" means every single set of gear that starts a special process once a certain condition is met.

Still cheering?

Did you read the rest of the thread before writing this?

Beardimus

Awesome to see a Dev response on this thread

olsborg

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

You do realise the changes you make need to be more then just a slight dmg reduction? They need a substantial revamp, atm pvp is dumbed down so much that sometimes all you need to kill some ppl are one heavy atk.

Sandman929

olsborg wrote: »

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

You do realise the changes you make need to be more then just a slight dmg reduction? They need a substantial revamp, atm pvp is dumbed down so much that sometimes all you need to kill some ppl are one heavy atk.

The official word is that they're planning to do some things about some stuff. More on that later, but up next: Have you seen the latest offerings at the Crown Store? You won't believe your eyes! We'll be back after this short break.

Cinbri

I a little bit scared. Next update that will be soon™ and focus on making things nicer for pvp but proc sets fix wasnt tested yet?

Cathexis

I feel like this problem is easily solved by simply removing stacking procs or just burst damage procs.

GreenSoup2HoT

Cathexis wrote: »

I feel like this problem is easily solved by simply removing stacking procs.

Even the damage from seleane/tremor/velidrith alone is pretty insane. Just my opinion.

Koolio

Cathexis wrote: »

I feel like this problem is easily solved by simply removing stacking procs.

So you're trying to Nerf my spell power cure and transmutation healer for PVP. Watch out I might heal you to death. I don't want to be to OP in PVP and light armor. #almosttrolling

Jaronking

Koolio wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

I feel like this problem is easily solved by simply removing stacking procs.

So you're trying to Nerf my spell power cure and transmutation healer for PVP. Watch out I might heal you to death. I don't want to be to OP in PVP and light armor. #almosttrolling

Yes we are trying to just Nerf your spell power cure and transmutation no one else's.

SirCritical

Like anti-shield sets, there will be anti-proc sets. Easy.

Sandman929

SirCritical wrote: »

Like anti-shield sets, there will be anti-proc sets. Easy.

This is what I'm worried about. Don't make a set I have to wear or a class I have to be to deal with armor doing damage. Just stop armor from doing damage.

Koolio

SirCritical wrote: »

Like anti-shield sets, there will be anti-proc sets. Easy.

I like this idea. 5pc bonus increase time proc sets used against you by 100%. I would be ok with 20sec Velidreth. Maybe 200%? Since tremor/arm/viper have small cooldown. This might even help poisons too.

Jaronking wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

I feel like this problem is easily solved by simply removing stacking procs.

So you're trying to Nerf my spell power cure and transmutation healer for PVP. Watch out I might heal you to death. I don't want to be to OP in PVP and light armor. #almosttrolling

Yes we are trying to just Nerf your spell power cure and transmutation no one else's.

That's a great answer lol. I asked for it. Lmao

Docmandu

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

"New" ideas coming to you in 2028 !

HoloYoitsu

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

Sandman929

Just make armor apply buffs and/or debuffs. Even the AoE stuff might be ok with reasonable damage ticks.
It seems like there are some widely considered worthless skills in every class, there could be armor sets to make those abilities somewhat attractive. DK's are very DoT heavy as a class, why not sets that proc certain buffs/debuffs contingent on DoTs being active?

Giving buffs/debuffs that depend on players actions, and granting them within time windows that must be taken advantage of promotes healthy competition. Not death by armor.

Minalan

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

@ZOS_RichLambert

Is there any way you can let us know what some of these ideas are?

For example, will one successful proc effect put other sets on cooldown?

Have you fixed the bugs where melee proc effects are firing on ranged attacks with weapon poison ticks?

Should proc effects even activate on a weapon poison?

Are you looking into bugs where you can double proc some sets by switching bars?

Are you looking into the issue where Infernal Guardian will fire on stealthed and hidden players, or fire through walls? You only need to be in combat, and everyone and everything becomes a fair target. I've killed people inside of keeps. I've killed people on top of towers. I reveal stealth players all of the time. It's broken.

Thanks for 1T. I've been having fun with it. I think just a few small bug fixes with respect to proc sets and they won't be nearly so bad.

DHale

They never ever said this. Forum warriors.... sigh.