Maintenance for the week of December 2:
• [COMPLETE] Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 4, 6:00AM EST (11:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 4, 6:00AM EST (11:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)

EU server constant rolebacks

  • mumbling-midget
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    Sorry folks, it's my fault. Was feeling a little too smug at actually having a Monday off work.... o:)
  • Cloroplatinico
    You will probably have just a fat horse xD
    I have already fed my horse on the same character 5 times today, I hope by the end of the day I have at 60 :D

  • Knootewoot
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    Leave the servers down until tomorrow please, so I can finish Deux Ex and play BF1.
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  • tat2mano
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    Lord wrote: »
    kagorsa wrote: »
    While I had a few deja-vu moments, I didn't notice two black cats that looked the same, but there was a goat that looked iffy. I just came out of the game and I can't beleave the amount of raging people that i just saw ingame, Those items are only pixels, they don't really exist. The server wasn't up long enough to do much. If it needs fixing then leave the staff to fix it and stop being so rude to them, go read a comic or picture book.

    You paid for those items.
    If you own ESO plus subscription and/or frequently buying crown packs, you are paying even more.
    This isn't a F2P game(yet).
    We are entitled to have access to the game.
    Also, the servers have to be stable.

    yes i did, i have eso+ and i also read the tos/eula - and understood them.

    there is a problem zos are fixing it. nuff said.

    no need for pointless ranting or insults - solves nothing.

    Same as a lot of maintenances,or at least for every 10 (small) things they fix they break another 6 (major) things,
    at least imo,dont have to share opinions.

    So yeah i also think players that sub are entitled to complaining bout these things,
    thats the reason why i stopped subbing,i rather buy a extra account to use as bank then pay 14 euro monthly just for a bag and some xtra xp and gold,
    with these amount of prosperous and training trait drops we can get that xtra 10% xp from other sources.
  • kagorsa
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    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.
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  • Alucardo
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    Sorry folks, it's my fault. Was feeling a little too smug at actually having a Monday off work.... o:)
    I was feeling pretty smug too. A work colleague noticed the extended outage and sent me a text with just the words "Lol rip"
  • TheDarkRuler
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.

    Perhaps from taking a day of a payed ESO+ membership without any chance to play at all since we're at work?
    Other companies usually either don't take money for a day of not-given content or refund the money if a day completely goes down.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    its mostly people who have nothing better to do and like to seek attention...
  • PsychicGuard
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    People are raging because there's nothing else for them to do..

    #1st-post
  • The_Protagonist
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    The things turned out after the patch, it's safe to assume that ZOS will have the courtesy of bringing everyone back to how things were before the patch. Out of both principle and fairness to all players.
    You have to give them the benefit of the doubt sometimes I guess, I've been critical of their inability to keep stuff running before but given the amount of times they have to bring servers down it's no wonder some stuff goes wrong when they bring them back up.

    There's a reason we've taken to not updating some of our managed switches where I work, if they ain't broken, don't fix them. The number of times I've updated a firmware on something like a switch and something critical has gone wrong is insane really.

    We just don't do it anymore unless we have a security issue or problem that needs fixing and we know it's in the new firmware.

    I agree with you @capuchinseven "dont try to fix if it aint broken" is also true for heavy machinery or heck everything.

    I hope the fix turns out to be stable and not too late. :)
  • PsychicGuard
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    its mostly people who have nothing better to do and like to seek attention...

    Damn.. jinx
    Edited by PsychicGuard on 24 October 2016 13:38
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    1/ Addiction. Withdrawal symptoms.
    2/ Organisation. Some people have a life and the game is their very own personal bubble which they can only fully enjoy from time to time, without interference. So yeah it's Monday, off work, wife's out, kids are at school, dog's fed and sleeping... FINALLY one gets to sit quietly and immerse into Tamriel. But servers are down.

    That's two valid reasons to be a little bit upset. Unless I've forgotten something, anything else is entitlement (I paid, I WANT my product).

    That being said, there's undoubtedly too much downtime lately with ESO.

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on 24 October 2016 13:33
  • SienneYviete
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    its mostly people who have nothing better to do and like to seek attention...
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    People are raging because there's nothing else for them to do..

    #1st-post

    welcome....
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
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    Marry me?

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  • PsychicGuard
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    kagorsa wrote: »
    Where does all the anger come from, what is it that makes people get so aggressive over games ?.
    I have seen some comments ingame over lost time, but that doesn't make much sense as they were just playing a game in the first place. So what else is there ?, the feeling of ownership maybe ?, or some sort of entitlement ?. I would really like to know, so please feel free to tell me.

    People are raging because there's nothing else for them to do..

    #1st-post

    welcome....

    Thanks..
  • bitels
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    When servers are back online, just to get another maintance after 15min
    https://youtu.be/92gP2J0CUjc?t=1m12s
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    unhander_2 wrote: »
    The things turned out after the patch, it's safe to assume that ZOS will have the courtesy of bringing everyone back to how things were before the patch. Out of both principle and fairness to all players.
    You have to give them the benefit of the doubt sometimes I guess, I've been critical of their inability to keep stuff running before but given the amount of times they have to bring servers down it's no wonder some stuff goes wrong when they bring them back up.

    There's a reason we've taken to not updating some of our managed switches where I work, if they ain't broken, don't fix them. The number of times I've updated a firmware on something like a switch and something critical has gone wrong is insane really.

    We just don't do it anymore unless we have a security issue or problem that needs fixing and we know it's in the new firmware.

    I agree with you @capuchinseven "dont try to fix if it aint broken" is also true for heavy machinery or heck everything.

    I hope the fix turns out to be stable and not too late. :)

    judging by my brief experience after the patch the resetting is happening anyway. after reading some of the comments here logged in ran around and found some wood to harvest.... kicked back to char select logged (pardon the pun) back in... wood gone.
  • Fischblut
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    I was so glad that they fixed Night Mother Embrace set this time and I can update my old 26 lvl items at last... Then I read this thread. Such a high price for finally fixing this awesome set... :D
  • tat2mano
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    Paulington wrote: »
    Lord wrote: »
    kagorsa wrote: »
    While I had a few deja-vu moments, I didn't notice two black cats that looked the same, but there was a goat that looked iffy. I just came out of the game and I can't beleave the amount of raging people that i just saw ingame, Those items are only pixels, they don't really exist. The server wasn't up long enough to do much. If it needs fixing then leave the staff to fix it and stop being so rude to them, go read a comic or picture book.

    You paid for those items.
    If you own ESO plus subscription and/or frequently buying crown packs, you are paying even more.
    This isn't a F2P game(yet).
    We are entitled to have access to the game.
    Also, the servers have to be stable.

    No you aren't.
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    You own nothing you have purchased with Crowns, you do not have a right to access the game or to stable servers.

    At most you can try to get a refund, nothing more.

    Wouldnt be a very smart bussines model if ZoS really thinks like that,
    i assume that most people that pay for eso+ have some kind of expectations about available game time,
    and if that game time is significantly less then the expectation then in the end there will be less and less people left that are willing to pay for eso+.

    I think subs are worth a lot more then some silly lines of text in a ToS or EULA in the end.
  • Woeler
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    Woeler wrote: »
    Woeler wrote: »
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    Omg I like you.

    Marry me?

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  • Enslaved
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    ***. 5 rollbacks. I start running in a direction, then 20 seconds later I'm logged out and put back at the wayshrine.

    Wayshrine: "Get over here!" (sound of chains pulling you back)
    Edited by Enslaved on 24 October 2016 13:39
  • Asgari
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    Had 6 mails with sales, turned into 30 mails. Went from decent sales to im rich again lol .. Thank you lord rollback
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  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    Update: We've identified the issue and are building a fix. At this point, we're looking at the downtime lasting another couple hours.
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  • TreeHugger1
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    Really zos? Everytime we have a maintenance 7 million people who killed half billion mudcrabs wait at least 5 hours+another "unexpected" maintenance that lasts few more hours.
    jk
  • KriHavok
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    Update: We've identified the issue and are building a fix. At this point, we're looking at the downtime lasting another couple hours.

    Thank you for the update and estimated downtime.
    UESP Staffer & Wiki Editor
  • kagorsa
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    I wonder how many millions of lines of code are in "ESO", and how easy it is to upset that code, from a patch ?. The only other MMo I know of that uses a mega server, or cluster servers if you like, is EVE-Online and I played that for just over 10 years off and on, and that had some major patch problems aswell, it was down for a week at one point.
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Really zos? Everytime we have a maintenance 7 million people who killed half billion mudcrabs wait at least 5 hours+another "unexpected" maintenance that lasts few more hours.
    jk

    every time?

    didn't happen last time..... or the time before.
    Edited by jedtb16_ESO on 24 October 2016 13:52
  • Alucardo
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    Update: We've identified the issue and are building a fix. At this point, we're looking at the downtime lasting another couple hours.

    Nice to have an ETA, thanks. Please keep us updated and there won't be a riot ;)
  • tat2mano
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    Update: We've identified the issue and are building a fix. At this point, we're looking at the downtime lasting another couple hours.

    Thats just messed up,its full daytime over here now.

    Thanks for the update tho.
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