Eidetic Memory Bugs/Comments/Help

This_0ne · June 15

Tatanko wrote: »

Peppo_Lives wrote: »

I found Gleaner Claim in Fargrave Outer Ruins, (zone story) quest "The Untraveled Road" - close to entrance 17,36 x 45,23

I haven't found any way to get back here after the quest is over. Has anyone else?

right now i can port there to a guild member

Orakel_von_Tamriel · June 15

i am missing the following books on my main:

Lore and Culture:

All Our Perfect Forms

Summerset Scrolls:

Lirendel's Family Shrine (= Post-Quest-Location)
Naliara's Notes, Day 2 (= Post-Quest-Location)
Naliara's Notes, Day 8 (= Post-Quest-Location)

West Weald Writings:

Dabienne's Note
Good Luck on the Gold Road
Letter from Aradros
Letter from Nothelas
Warning Bulletin!
Y'ffre's Hymn

any idea?

ewo5 · June 15

So close.

I am at 6105/6134. (PS5 without Gold Road dropping yet)

28 of my 29 missing are the 2 motifs that have not dropped yet (124 & 125)

The only other book I need is "All Our Perfect Forms"

I have been playing since Play Station launce and never had them all.

Djennku · June 15

Orakel_von_Tamriel wrote: »

i am missing the following books on my main:

Lore and Culture:

All Our Perfect Forms

Summerset Scrolls:

Lirendel's Family Shrine (= Post-Quest-Location)
Naliara's Notes, Day 2 (= Post-Quest-Location)
Naliara's Notes, Day 8 (= Post-Quest-Location)

West Weald Writings:

Dabienne's Note
Good Luck on the Gold Road
Letter from Aradros
Letter from Nothelas
Warning Bulletin!
Y'ffre's Hymn

any idea?

Warning bulletin is from the Oakenclaw WB daily.

Rishikesa108 · June 15

Protector1981 wrote: »

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Protector1981 wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

Shardmarshal's journal is in baragon's house in skingrad second floor back of the stairwell.

i complete lost Where in Skingrad was his House? XD

Got it Thank you

Please can you help me? where is this house? I've found Beragon's Townhouse, but no books found in there...

Sure. No Problem

Look here:

Hope its helps you

Thank you, maybe its a quest related book... My quests are not yet finished :-)))

Protector1981 · June 15

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Protector1981 wrote: »

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Protector1981 wrote: »

Djennku wrote: »

Shardmarshal's journal is in baragon's house in skingrad second floor back of the stairwell.

i complete lost Where in Skingrad was his House? XD

Got it Thank you

Please can you help me? where is this house? I've found Beragon's Townhouse, but no books found in there...

Sure. No Problem

Look here:

Hope its helps you

Thank you, maybe its a quest related book... My quests are not yet finished :-)))

Yes, u need to finish Main Story of Gold Road maybe

MreeBiPolar · June 16

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

MreeBiPolar wrote: »

Gandalf_72 wrote: »

I wonder why you haven't fixed ALL the buggy lorebooks for so many years instead of fixing them a few at a time!!

Because there's no magic "fix all lorebooks" button... It's not like they all are bugged in same way and due to the same background issue that can be fixed and they will all suddenly work ok.

Sorry, but respectfully, I disagree. Of course there is no magic button... but it doesn't take that long for a developer to fix a buggy book. It would be enough for one person to be entrusted with the task of fixing all the books that have been buggy for so many years! The list of these books is now known to everyone. It would be a few hours' work. But of course if lorebooks are never considered a priority... obviously it's a job that is never done by anyone. I wonder what's the point of continuing to produce buggy lorebooks without fixing the previous ones.

I dunno if by "the point", you mean it is done on purpose, or suggest not making any more lorebooks whatsoever until they fix all previous ones, AND invent a mechanism of never making a bugged one again (i.e., never).

The previous comment shows you have never been anywhere close to software -- or not software -- development if you think that what makes all these bugs common is them being lorebooks, and that assigning a special job role for fixing them makes any sense.

Most common two bug types with lorebooks are:
1) Misalignment (book spawns not on top of some surface/object, but slightly under, and so is invisible/noninteractable, or then physics engine makes it fall through) -- which also happens with a lot of other objects, including resource nodes (which is much less noticeable to players, unless they have Keen Eye for that resource type, making it show a glow at an empty spot), chests (same), and just decorations (which you won't ever know are misaligned as you won't even see them, or they ain't supposed to be interactable in the first place). This is getting fixed routinely (based on both patch notes, and results), but not specifically for lorebooks, leaving other objects aside.
2) Wrong tagging/triggers/conditions by quest stages/instances/etc, making them disappear, not appear at a correct spot, appear in inaccessible areas, etc. Having heavily modded TES games from Morrowind to Skyrim, including fixing broken quests, I know it is not a simple matter of just fixing a one-line mistake, it requires you to comb through the whole quest script completely to make sure you know what the exact error is, that you would actually fix it, and not break something else.
3) The examples like above, where for whatever reason, the book is just not in Eidetic Memory at all. No idea how exactly it is implemented, but it is certainly not as simple as just adding one DB entry or a flag, either...

These are most likely handled by different dev teams, and quite possibly, #2 is handled by more than one, requiring coordination between them (and not doing other tasks they have).

Seeing as ZoS has admitted that prior to this year, they had devs on a constant crunch mode... It's a wonder they had time to fix anything not totally game-breaking whatsoever... But even if they had spare idle resources, assigning them to fix bugs by subject matter, not by type, would make no sense at all.

MreeBiPolar · June 16

Anyone found the Letter from Aradros?

LMarshall910 · June 16

Does anyone know where I can find "House Telvanni Song" under Telvanni Tomes? I have it collected and in my eidetic memory, but my wife doesn't. For the life of me I don't know where I collected it from and there's not a lot of info as to its whereabouts. If it's from a quest, ideally I would like to know a post-quest location, but can't be too picky, if I need to do a quest again to get into a certain area on a different character, happy to take her in as that'll complete her 96/97.

LMarshall910 · June 16

GeneralEU wrote: »

LMarshall910 wrote: »

GeneralEU wrote: »

LMarshall910 wrote: »

GeneralEU wrote: »

This note is probably bugged if you didn't collect it during the quest...

Yeah, it's annoying as it is the only one I'm missing from the Dispatches of the Deadlands books on this character. :-(

You can try to form a group with someone who has not yet done this quest. If you can't enter the portal/door then you can teleport to the other player who is inside.

I did this on an alt and although you can get inside, the book is not visible if you have already done the quest. It appears as part of the quest for the other person, but not if you have completed the quest.

Sadly propadly this note is bugged and there no post quest location ;(

Has there been any update to this book? Any post quest location available with the new update maybe?

Mirumorg · June 16

My missing books:

- All our perfect forms (bugged)

- Y'ffre's Hymn
- Warning bullettin (WB daily quest)
- Dabienne's Note (bugged)
- Letter from Aradros
- Mastery of Compassion
- Taking Care of Your Bear

Please help me if anyone know some book location

MreeBiPolar · June 16

Mirumorg wrote: »

My missing books:

- Warning bullettin (WB daily quest)

You need to read it after placing them for the Oakenclaw (Lake Olo) WB daily.

- Mastery of Compassion

On the ground near a monk (?) at a small lake between the Sanguine's shrine and Weatherleah estate

MreeBiPolar · June 16

LMarshall910 wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can find "House Telvanni Song" under Telvanni Tomes? I have it collected and in my eidetic memory, but my wife doesn't. For the life of me I don't know where I collected it from and there's not a lot of info as to its whereabouts. If it's from a quest, ideally I would like to know a post-quest location, but can't be too picky, if I need to do a quest again to get into a certain area on a different character, happy to take her in as that'll complete her 96/97.

Not a quest, just a book in a nook near a small house NW of the Tel Rendys location marker.

Rishikesa108 · June 16

Mirumorg wrote: »

My missing books:

- All our perfect forms (bugged)

- Y'ffre's Hymn
- Warning bullettin (WB daily quest)
- Dabienne's Note (bugged)
- Letter from Aradros
- Mastery of Compassion
- Taking Care of Your Bear

Please help me if anyone know some book location

Mastery of Compassion: look at #3716 post of mine in this thread :-) You will find a mini-map for this book

LMarshall910 · June 16

MreeBiPolar wrote: »

Not a quest, just a book in a nook near a small house NW of the Tel Rendys location marker.

Amazing, thank you!!

Rishikesa108 · June 17

Mirumorg wrote: »

My missing books:

- All our perfect forms (bugged)

- Y'ffre's Hymn
- Warning bullettin (WB daily quest)
- Dabienne's Note (bugged)
- Letter from Aradros
- Mastery of Compassion
- Taking Care of Your Bear

Please help me if anyone know some book location

Taking care of your Bear: I have it collected. I'm pretty sure it is in a house (maybe Skingrad?) at the first floor, near a desk

MreeBiPolar · June 17

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

Mirumorg wrote: »

My missing books:

- All our perfect forms (bugged)

- Y'ffre's Hymn
- Warning bullettin (WB daily quest)
- Dabienne's Note (bugged)
- Letter from Aradros
- Mastery of Compassion
- Taking Care of Your Bear

Please help me if anyone know some book location

Taking care of your Bear: I have it collected. I'm pretty sure it is in a house (maybe Skingrad?) at the first floor, near a desk

Upstairs

zenonuk · June 17

For those looking for Journal of Sharmarshal Vargas - post quest can be found in Beragon's Townhouse on the first floor landing...

Dragonnord · June 17

Anyone knows where Challenge of the Paladin from Tomes of Tributes is?

Djennku · June 17

Dragonnord wrote: »

Anyone knows where Challenge of the Paladin from Tomes of Tributes is?

Port outsite the inn room, turn right towards the stairs, then right again into the little room beside the landing still upstairs. Its on a shelf or table in the back.

Dragonnord · June 17

Djennku wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

Anyone knows where Challenge of the Paladin from Tomes of Tributes is?

Port outsite the inn room, turn right towards the stairs, then right again into the little room beside the landing still upstairs. Its on a shelf or table in the back.

Thank you!

Tatanko · June 17

I can confirm that if you're able to group with someone doing either of the main story quests for Gold Road that take you to Fargrave, it's possible to port in and grab Gleaner's Claim (and probably any other book in that area if there are more).

Now sitting at 6307 / 6339. I don't believe it's possible to get any of the remaining books:

All Our Perfect Forms
Dabienne's Note
Letter from Aradros
Y'ffre's Hymn

Blind Path Cultist Style (14)
The Recollection Style (14)

TTMighty · June 18

Is there a post quest way to get these books yet?

Elegian"s Notes
The Prohecy of Anudnabia

birdmann1230 · June 18

TTMighty wrote: »

Is there a post quest way to get these books yet?

Elegian"s Notes
The Prohecy of Anudnabia

You can group with someone for the Anudnabia book, I just was able to do so. We grouped just before he entered the portal underwater.

TTMighty · June 18

birdmann1230 wrote: »

TTMighty wrote: »

Is there a post quest way to get these books yet?

Elegian"s Notes
The Prohecy of Anudnabia

You can group with someone for the Anudnabia book, I just was able to do so. We grouped just before he entered the portal underwater.

Many thanks, couldn't FT to the player, but while grouped the doorway in the sea was available. many thanks!!

master_vanargand · June 19

Can not find book in West Weald.

Dabienne's Note
Letter from Aradros
Y'ffre's Hymn

Please help me if anyone know some book location.

TTMighty · June 19

Just to confirm;

Lore book Elegian"s Notes is still bugged if you don't grab it the first time.

I had another account do the quest, I can group and get to the book, and it shows "Examine". But, it cannot be interacted with, if you are not on the quest.

Is this what others are seeing? Is this available elsewhere?

TIA

GeneralEU · June 20

My not find list (Yes i know some are bugged) ;3

All Our Perfect Forms
Dabienne's Note
Letter from Aradros
Y'ffre's Hymn

Daniel141182 · June 20

anyone know where endemir`s journal entry is. ? and where in lucent is cavot agnans breakthrough?

Annelid01 · June 20

Dabienne's Note

On shelf in Skingrad 57.84,67.07 to left of enchanting table