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Give Templar's Mobility/Stronger Defense.

Molag_Crow
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@ZOS We need a passive or a spell that increases our movement speed.

You absolutely smash-nerfed our Blazing Shield/Radiant Ward.

You took away our ability to blind nearby enemies and replaced it with Radiant Destruction, even though that's an awesome ability, but you've replaced a good CC with a good damage ability? ...

Don't mention abilities that already exist in the game like Rapid Maneuvers, that's Stamina. That's not a Templar class ability. That's an Alliance War ability.
Edited by Molag_Crow on 18 October 2015 21:50
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  • Levo18
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    Just use major expidition potions
  • Tryxus
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    Levo18 wrote: »
    Just use major expidition potions

    I think the OP wants an actual Class Skill (like Double Take for the NB) that boosts movement Speed, no Potions, no other Skill lines,... an actual Templar Class Skill
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  • Molag_Crow
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Levo18 wrote: »
    Just use major expidition potions

    I think the OP wants an actual Class Skill (like Double Take for the NB) that boosts movement Speed, no Potions, no other Skill lines,... an actual Templar Class Skill

    Exactly...
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  • Fizzlewizzle
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    #Lurk

    :)
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  • Kammakazi
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    Mist Form
  • Molag_Crow
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    Mist Form got nerfed to the ground/bugged to oblivion.
    Edited by Molag_Crow on 18 October 2015 17:24
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  • eliisra
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    Yes they do and so does magicka DK (these suckers even lack a gap gloser).

    It's not game breaking, it's no escape skills or some crazy teleport. Only major expedition, without burning half your stamina pool.

    No way to keep up with Nightblades, sorcs, stamina builds or even your own group, otherwise.

    DK + templar had most of their main defences nerfed to the ground, so the idea that they're somehow so tanky that complete slow motion movement is needed, that's very outdated. The blanket nerf hit them much harder than sorc or NB, that thanks to mobility + escapes never had to rely so hard on active features abilities like block. DK lost their main heal, because anything that scales of health is utterly useless after a 50% nerf. Same with the templar class shield.

    So pls Zos, make one of many useless non-class skills give major expedition. Problem solved. Not hard.
  • Anhedonie
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    Templar? What is this? There are only 3 classes in TESO.
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  • Cinbri
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    Mobility to class that slower by design?! Are you asking to be like this:
    1_teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles.jpg?
    Sorry, but not looks cool, turtles still will be turtles.
    Edited by Cinbri on 18 October 2015 17:36
  • Jade1986
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Templar? What is this? There are only 3 classes in TESO.

    Watchu talkin bout, DK and Temp are nigh near extinct.

    ...............even tho I main MagPlar and StamKnight................

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  • Takllin
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    No, don't give us mobility.

    Make us back into what we once were by upgrading/updating abilities. I don't want all classes to be homogenized.
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  • MrGrimey
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    Give NBs a class heal
  • Sausage
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    We will have to see how Spell Crafting works, but speed spells could be one. I think they should just do it, shields, heals, speeds for everyone, no more whining, players can build what kind of character they ever want.
    Edited by Sausage on 18 October 2015 18:21
  • Reznique
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    And give DK and ability to fly right?
  • BRogueNZ
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    Namira's Rot needs a buff
  • Hiero_Glyph
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    Mist Form is a separate issue but one that needs to be addressed since it does very little currently.

    That being siad, I do not think that Templars need a mobility skill. What they need is an ability that allows them to stand their ground similar to how Blinding Light worked. As it stands now the only defensive tool a Templar has is Rune Focus and that does not discourage being attacked, only makes being attacked slightly less effective. Healing is a great survival tool but it does not protect the Templar. Sun Shield was nerfed into the ground so there really isn't a point to using Blazing Shield any longer. Why shouldn't players swarm a Templar right now? They have nothing to discourage being attacked. DKs have similar issues due to how Ash Cloud was nerfed. Notice a trend here? It's not a mobility issue, it's lacking a way to discourage others from constantly attacking them.
  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    MrGrimey wrote: »
    Give NBs a class heal

    What! they already have one and ultimates/abilities with healing morphs you must have forgot to read your skills.
    Edited by RAGUNAnoOne on 18 October 2015 19:45
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  • J2JMC
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Templar? What is this? There are only 3 classes in TESO.

    You must not pve
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Hmmm I'm a Templar and wouldn't mind that benefit as I've used the dual blade spell morph
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  • Fizzlewizzle
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    I think that, rather than mobility they need to regain their old defensive strength.
    - Buffs to Sun shield and morphs.
    - Rework of Rune Focus.
    - Rework on skills like Healing Ritual and Restoring Aura.

    While DK's are a movable fortress with their skills, Templars should be more of a bunker/turret type.
    All their Dawn's Wrath skills have extreme range, and even up close they have a decent arsenal with the aedric spear tree.
    Giving them a way to secure their position (although fixed on a single spot) could make an interesting change.

    Some suggestion for Rune Focus:
    Rune Focus: Regen
    Restoring Focus (Defensive bonus + Regen).
    Channeled Focus (Offensive focus + Regen)

    What they could have (at max level):
    Rune Focus:
    400 Magicka, Stamina and Health regen every 0.5 seconds.

    Restoring Focus:
    200 Magicka, Stamina and Health every 0.5 seconds + Major Vitality, Resolve, Ward and Protection (Healing received, Spell and Physical resistance and Damage recieved reduction).

    Channeled Focus:
    200 Magicka, Stamina and Health every 0.5 seconds + Major Prophecy, Savagery, Brutality, Sorcery, Force and Mending (Spell + weapon crit, Spell + Weapon Damage, Crit damage bonus and Healing done Bonus)

    Healing Ritual
    Decrease the Radius of this skill to about 5M (half it is now).
    Make it work like the healing Ultimate, but without the CC immunity.

    Because of the small range and movement prevention you can't use it to save lots of people on the battlefield, but if problems occur your teammates can get into your" save area" where they will be kept alive for a short period of time.

    Sun shield:
    Just an increase in shield capacity.


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  • lathbury
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    templars dont need a buff they are already in a really got spot in PVP and PVE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dpJ1wzl5T4
  • Fizzlewizzle
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    lathbury wrote: »
    templars dont need a buff they are already in a really got spot in PVP and PVE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dpJ1wzl5T4
    I hope you are just pretending to be stupid.

    That guy uses an exploit. Been up for discussion for a long time already, i'm surprised you haven't noticed it yet.
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  • Akinos
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    lathbury wrote: »
    templars dont need a buff they are already in a really got spot in PVP and PVE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dpJ1wzl5T4

    Lmfao...really? Using a video of a templar that's clearly bugged or exploiting as proof of them being in a good spot? Sigh.


    Anyways, would be cool of templars could transform into a beam of light to travel, say the same distance as bolt escape maybe? Something like this:tumblr_miylsphZwk1s6d3x4o1_500.gif
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  • manny254
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    Akinos wrote: »
    lathbury wrote: »
    templars dont need a buff they are already in a really got spot in PVP and PVE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dpJ1wzl5T4

    Lmfao...really? Using a video of a templar that's clearly bugged or exploiting as proof of them being in a good spot? Sigh.


    Anyways, would be cool of templars could transform into a beam of light to travel, say the same distance as bolt escape maybe? Something like this:tumblr_miylsphZwk1s6d3x4o1_500.gif

    I think something they could do to help out magicka templar is make a morph of the cast time heal that is instead a HoT that is essentially a magicka version of vigor.
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  • Anhedonie
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    I think that, rather than mobility they need to regain their old defensive strength.
    - Buffs to Sun shield and morphs.
    - Rework of Rune Focus.
    - Rework on skills like Healing Ritual and Restoring Aura.

    While DK's are a movable fortress with their skills, Templars should be more of a bunker/turret type.
    All their Dawn's Wrath skills have extreme range, and even up close they have a decent arsenal with the aedric spear tree.
    Giving them a way to secure their position (although fixed on a single spot) could make an interesting change.

    Some suggestion for Rune Focus:
    Rune Focus: Regen
    Restoring Focus (Defensive bonus + Regen).
    Channeled Focus (Offensive focus + Regen)

    What they could have (at max level):
    Rune Focus:
    400 Magicka, Stamina and Health regen every 0.5 seconds.

    Restoring Focus:
    200 Magicka, Stamina and Health every 0.5 seconds + Major Vitality, Resolve, Ward and Protection (Healing received, Spell and Physical resistance and Damage recieved reduction).

    Channeled Focus:
    200 Magicka, Stamina and Health every 0.5 seconds + Major Prophecy, Savagery, Brutality, Sorcery, Force and Mending (Spell + weapon crit, Spell + Weapon Damage, Crit damage bonus and Healing done Bonus)

    Healing Ritual
    Decrease the Radius of this skill to about 5M (half it is now).
    Make it work like the healing Ultimate, but without the CC immunity.

    Because of the small range and movement prevention you can't use it to save lots of people on the battlefield, but if problems occur your teammates can get into your" save area" where they will be kept alive for a short period of time.

    Sun shield:
    Just an increase in shield capacity.


    Your Healing Ritual suggestion is disgusting.
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  • Dracane
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    @ZOS We need a passive or a spell that increases our movement speed.

    You absolutely smash-nerfed our Blazing Shield/Radiant Ward.

    You took away our ability to blind nearby enemies and replaced it with Radiant Destruction, even though that's an awesome ability, but you've replaced a good CC with a good damage ability? ...

    Don't mention abilities that already exist in the game like Rapid Maneuvers, that's Stamina. That's not a Templar class ability. That's an Alliance War ability.

    Blazing shield is the same as before. All shield became much weaker, but the proportion is still the same. You don't even need a shield, your heals are out of control in pvp and need adjustment. For example 50% less healing while block casting

    You could use mistform or speed potions to compensate. Mistform even gives you damage reduction.

    And I agree, this melee blind ( I can't even remember the name :( ) was so strong, still few Templars were using it. It was soooo good. I really miss it.
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  • Tryxus
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Anyways, would be cool of templars could transform into a beam of light to travel, say the same distance as bolt escape maybe? Something like this:tumblr_miylsphZwk1s6d3x4o1_500.gif

    with enough lag, that can be achieved by any class
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  • lathbury
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    Akinos wrote: »
    lathbury wrote: »
    templars dont need a buff they are already in a really got spot in PVP and PVE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dpJ1wzl5T4

    Lmfao...really? Using a video of a templar that's clearly bugged or exploiting as proof of them being in a good spot? Sigh.


    Anyways, would be cool of templars could transform into a beam of light to travel, say the same distance as bolt escape maybe? Something like this:tumblr_miylsphZwk1s6d3x4o1_500.gif
    bugged or exploit which is it? i could also link videos of them doing 20k dps in Trials etc with a 2 button rotation but you guys would make the same claims about those. keep qq for buffs when everybody knows they are in a good spot. heres another video you can claim is bugged or exploiting.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWfOC8kf_O0

  • Molag_Crow
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    @lathbury .... that's a video of an exploiter and another video of PvE, we're talking about PvP here...

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  • lathbury
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    @lathbury .... that's a video of an exploiter and another video of PvE, we're talking about PvP here...

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    yeah the second video of a different guy 1 v x in imperial city is PVE just lol. you just showed everyone that you will ignore or dismiss any evidence that they are in good shape.
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