Fights are Endless in Non-Vet PvP Right Now

Tillalarrien

Also, I think people posting here would appreciate ANY conformation that DEVs are actually reading this thread. Thanks

Moglijuana

Tillalarrien wrote: »

Also, I think people posting here would appreciate ANY conformation that DEVs are actually reading this thread. Thanks

The ONLY sign of DEV involvement I have seen in the past two days is simply to give their "be nice to each other" message. But as far as feedback...righhtttttttt lol

QuebraRegra

Woman wrote: »

mcurley wrote: »

@zornyan your 20% theory is also incorrect even though just 20% would be considerable anyway.

Let me put it into perspective for you. The following numbers were all before the patch so Nirn played a role too but these are just to give you an idea of how OP these players can be on PC BwB.

The CP troll I referred to before is a magicka NB just like me. A few levels higher but that doens't really matter... His non-crit Swallow Soul was hitting me for 3.7k and my non-crit Swallow Soul was hitting him for 1.3k. So 20% more damage? HAH try he does 285% more damage to me than I do to him. Also keep in mind that my non-crit Swallow Souls only hit the average player for about 2.1k meaning he was taking about 57% less damage than the average player... do you see now?

I hit for that amount in Blackwater... Or at least I did before the patch. I only have 200 CP and it helps me with defence and regen, barely for damage. Best magicka NB in BWB I know is Mini Skirt and he has 67 CP. Compare that to the average CP user in BWB who has 300+. I know it's a problem but your issue is your build, not a lack of CP. I'd be happy to help you with it though. Magicka NB is a blast!

Confirmed. In BWB, my FUNNEL HEALTH hits for around 3k (it's technically lower dmg than SS), and I have NO CPs on this character. I'd have to assume that you have nothing boosting MAGICKA? Stats are pretty locked for BWB, but try the MAGE stone combined with divines gear, or optionally go with some gear to increase spell power and penetration. I don't even think you can crit with funnelhealth or swallow soul can you?

I got a gold staff as a campaign reward last night that added like 1k of magicka which did increase even in BWB.

That said, I'm strongly against CPs in NON-VET.

We now return you to the OP discussion already in progress.

Paradox

Moglijuana wrote: »

Tillalarrien wrote: »

Also, I think people posting here would appreciate ANY conformation that DEVs are actually reading this thread. Thanks

The ONLY sign of DEV involvement I have seen in the past two days is simply to give their "be nice to each other" message. But as far as feedback...righhtttttttt lol

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're just in total damage control mode right now. Not replying to anything, to avoid pissing us off even more.

They deleted one of my posts being critical of their behavior. I said our feedback was falling on "deaf ears" and stated that it's becoming clear that ZoS doesn't care anymore...

I was clearly wrong about them being deaf. They simply don't care about our feedback.

QuebraRegra

^ DMG control would be maintaining the IC content and rolling back the patch balance changes until they could be addressed individually. The previous patch balance had some issues admittedly.

A sledgehammer is a poor tool to kill cockroaches.

Paradox

QuebraRegra wrote: »

^ DMG control would be maintaining the IC content and rolling back the patch balance changes until they could be addressed individually. The previous patch balance had some issues admittedly.

A sledgehammer is a poor tool to kill cockroaches.

Nah, that would make them look bad in general, rolling back a patch within a week of it. Not likely that they would do that, as much as I'd enjoy much less of update 7 -- as I hate it and 90% of its changes.

Zachy_B

Fart salad.

Paradox

Zachy_B wrote: »

Fart salad.

Agreed.

chevalierknight

Paradox wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

^ DMG control would be maintaining the IC content and rolling back the patch balance changes until they could be addressed individually. The previous patch balance had some issues admittedly.

A sledgehammer is a poor tool to kill cockroaches.

Nah, that would make them look bad in general, rolling back a patch within a week of it. Not likely that they would do that, as much as I'd enjoy much less of update 7 -- as I hate it and 90% of its changes.

Glad i got metal gear and preorder halo and fallout 4 guess its time to move on the damage nerf moved me on dev if you're reading.

What the devs dont get is us ps4 and xbox players will just play diffrent game we will not put up with this kind of stuff

Paradox

chevalierknight wrote: »

Paradox wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

^ DMG control would be maintaining the IC content and rolling back the patch balance changes until they could be addressed individually. The previous patch balance had some issues admittedly.

A sledgehammer is a poor tool to kill cockroaches.

Nah, that would make them look bad in general, rolling back a patch within a week of it. Not likely that they would do that, as much as I'd enjoy much less of update 7 -- as I hate it and 90% of its changes.

Glad i got metal gear and preorder halo and fallout 4 guess its time to move on the damage nerf moved me on dev if you're reading.

What the devs dont get is us ps4 and xbox players will just play diffrent game we will not put up with this kind of stuff

Fallout 4: Pipboy Edition preordered and ready. It's my contingency plan for this game failing, which, on its current path, will be within the year -- much less time than I tend to spend in my beautiful nuclear winter wonderland.

chevalierknight

Paradox wrote: »

chevalierknight wrote: »

Paradox wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

^ DMG control would be maintaining the IC content and rolling back the patch balance changes until they could be addressed individually. The previous patch balance had some issues admittedly.

A sledgehammer is a poor tool to kill cockroaches.

Nah, that would make them look bad in general, rolling back a patch within a week of it. Not likely that they would do that, as much as I'd enjoy much less of update 7 -- as I hate it and 90% of its changes.

Glad i got metal gear and preorder halo and fallout 4 guess its time to move on the damage nerf moved me on dev if you're reading.

What the devs dont get is us ps4 and xbox players will just play diffrent game we will not put up with this kind of stuff

Fallout 4: Pipboy Edition preordered and ready. It's my contingency plan for this game failing, which, on its current path, will be within the year -- much less time than I tend to spend in my beautiful nuclear winter wonderland.

I give it a year on pc november on xbox

Paradox

There goes another full day without an official reply.

Woman

Maybe Justin Bieber can get through to them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nntGTK2Fhb0

Valencer

Drewzi

I'm a officer in Unicorn Death Riders aka PWNY, we where exclusively a BWB PVP guild. We have officially left bwb for trueflame. How has ZOS not responded to this issue yet, so disheartening....

QuebraRegra

Paradox wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

^ DMG control would be maintaining the IC content and rolling back the patch balance changes until they could be addressed individually. The previous patch balance had some issues admittedly.

A sledgehammer is a poor tool to kill cockroaches.

Nah, that would make them look bad in general, rolling back a patch within a week of it. Not likely that they would do that, as much as I'd enjoy much less of update 7 -- as I hate it and 90% of its changes.

Pretty funny but it means the opposite to me... it means a developer is serious about their game and their community if they implement something that their player base doesn't particularly like, and has obvious issue.

That said maybe everyone just loves this patch no?

Woman

Drewzi wrote: »

I'm a officer in Unicorn Death Riders aka PWNY, we where exclusively a BWB PVP guild. We have officially left bwb for trueflame. How has ZOS not responded to this issue yet, so disheartening....

Bla, I'm gonna miss BWB. It would be cool if we could all move to one campaign so we can all still play in the same community.

FlounderOG

They may not have any solutions yet.

In game development things dont fix themselves overnight, or even a week in most cases. Surely something should be done, and a simple "We are working to fix these issues" would be nice, but to say they are malicious just because they dont reply to every thread you make is just silly.

Paradox

FlounderOG wrote: »

They may not have any solutions yet.

In game development things dont fix themselves overnight, or even a week in most cases. Surely something should be done, and a simple "We are working to fix these issues" would be nice, but to say they are malicious just because they dont reply to every thread you make is just silly.

This is a simple change. They hotfixed changes that affected non-vet in 1.6... Yet there's no word on them removing the battle level changes? Seriously? There's no excuse for not even acknowledging it.

Woman

"We recognize this is a problem and are currently exploring possible solutions. Please be patient and know that we value the community's feedback and take it seriously."

That's really all that needs to be said. And yes ZOS I am available for hire

Drewzi

Woman wrote: »

Drewzi wrote: »

I'm a officer in Unicorn Death Riders aka PWNY, we where exclusively a BWB PVP guild. We have officially left bwb for trueflame. How has ZOS not responded to this issue yet, so disheartening....

Bla, I'm gonna miss BWB. It would be cool if we could all move to one campaign so we can all still play in the same community.

We really should.

WRX

I didn't read any of this post. But let me sum it up real quick (or atleast how I feel it went).

In blackwater we still have very large health bonuses, and the 50% dmg reduction along with these health bonuses means that TTK is far to high.

In vet PvP, where health to resource ratio was reduced from 1.5 to 1.1, this change was more necessary since we all had ~33% less health.

So instead of ADDING options and buffing health values again, we made a drastic and unnecessary change and nerfed everyone's ability in PvP.

Also, all those crying of shield stacking in PvP (sure there is plenty of it) this would of been fixed as well with the 1.5 health to stam mp ratio idea.

Angarato

wait so all the vets are leaving non-vet? sounds like a good idea. give non-vet back to the actual non-vets

Paradox

Angarato wrote: »

wait so all the vets are leaving non-vet? sounds like a good idea. give non-vet back to the actual non-vets

A good portion of nonvet is vets.

Alcast

Paradox wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Tillalarrien wrote: »

Also, I think people posting here would appreciate ANY conformation that DEVs are actually reading this thread. Thanks

The ONLY sign of DEV involvement I have seen in the past two days is simply to give their "be nice to each other" message. But as far as feedback...righhtttttttt lol

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're just in total damage control mode right now. Not replying to anything, to avoid pissing us off even more.

They deleted one of my posts being critical of their behavior. I said our feedback was falling on "deaf ears" and stated that it's becoming clear that ZoS doesn't care anymore...

I was clearly wrong about them being deaf. They simply don't care about our feedback.

You are lucky that you did not get banned XD

Paradox

Alcast wrote: »

Paradox wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Tillalarrien wrote: »

Also, I think people posting here would appreciate ANY conformation that DEVs are actually reading this thread. Thanks

The ONLY sign of DEV involvement I have seen in the past two days is simply to give their "be nice to each other" message. But as far as feedback...righhtttttttt lol

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're just in total damage control mode right now. Not replying to anything, to avoid pissing us off even more.

They deleted one of my posts being critical of their behavior. I said our feedback was falling on "deaf ears" and stated that it's becoming clear that ZoS doesn't care anymore...

I was clearly wrong about them being deaf. They simply don't care about our feedback.

You are lucky that you did not get banned XD

At this point, I could care less. Not like they listen to anything we bring up on the forums, anyway.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Im I to understand that non vet PvPer are rocking around with 30k health and 20 magic and stamina and they still take half damage even on the non vet ZoS don't add in a special rule set for them??

Paradox

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Im I to understand that non vet PvPer are rocking around with 30k health and 20 magic and stamina and they still take half damage even on the non vet ZoS don't add in a special rule set for them??

That is correct, yes.

Paradox

5 days without an official reply.

zornyan

Have the basic stats increased in bwb since battle leveling now makes you a vr14 in blue gear?

As atm, with food and an ayelid well, I'm hitting 41k hp on console