Animation cancelling is killing PVP, especially for Oceanics

Ezareth

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

OdinForge

This thread is made up of pure champion stuff.

Alexandrious

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it. Latency is also a factor in animation cancelling thus again the macro use, it may still vary now and then when it goes off, but thanks to macros it can reliably go off long as programmed right.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its as pathetic as this game is right now.

OdinForge

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its pathetic.

You are beyond help, but you seriously need a lot of it.

Alexandrious

OdinForge wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its pathetic.

You are beyond help. But I need alot of it since I abandoned my other chars for my OP Nightblade.

Fixed.

Beyond help? Im not the one who switched to the FoTM Class that has yet to be balanced @OdinForge since from what I saw in the notes, nothing was done to them save for a few bug fixes. I dont need any help. I just knew that the game was in a bad way long ago, and would stay in a bad way, and came back hoping maybe, just maybe, Bethseda put the foot down on Zenimax Online to turn the damn game around but nope, they still making critical mistakes.

Know what a KOREAN mmo company, the one making Tree of Savior does that Zenimax online doesnt? They talk to the players, acknowledge whats screwed up and whats good. Explain why they went with this decision and that, generally talk to the playerbase on the forums and interact with them to make the best RO Spiritual successor possible. Sounds alot like what SE did with FFXIV 2.0 and beyond doesnt it? Sure wish Zenimax Online gave enough damns to do that. Hell that company even gave Latin America their own server after enough requested it. Just beats all doesn't it?

OdinForge

Alexandrious wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its pathetic.

You are beyond help. But I need alot of it since I abandoned my other chars for my OP Nightblade.

Fixed.

Beyond help? Im not the one who switched to the FoTM Class that has yet to be balanced @OdinForge since from what I saw in the notes, nothing was done to them save for a few bug fixes. I dont need any help. I just knew that the game was in a bad way long ago, and would stay in a bad way, and came back hoping maybe, just maybe, Bethseda put the foot down on Zenimax Online to turn the damn game around but nope, they still making critical mistakes.

Know what a KOREAN mmo company, the one making Tree of Savior does that Zenimax online doesnt? They talk to the players, acknowledge whats screwed up and whats good. Explain why they went with this decision and that, generally talk to the playerbase on the forums and interact with them to make the best RO Spiritual successor possible. Sounds alot like what SE did with FFXIV 2.0 and beyond doesnt it? Sure wish Zenimax Online gave enough damns to do that. Hell that company even gave Latin America their own server after enough requested it. Just beats all doesn't it?

ZOS has just as big of a L2P issue as you, I don't disagree with that.

Wollust

Alexandrious wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its pathetic.

You are beyond help. But I need alot of it since I abandoned my other chars for my OP Nightblade.

Fixed.

Beyond help? Im not the one who switched to the FoTM Class that has yet to be balanced @OdinForge since from what I saw in the notes, nothing was done to them save for a few bug fixes. I dont need any help. I just knew that the game was in a bad way long ago, and would stay in a bad way, and came back hoping maybe, just maybe, Bethseda put the foot down on Zenimax Online to turn the damn game around but nope, they still making critical mistakes.

Know what a KOREAN mmo company, the one making Tree of Savior does that Zenimax online doesnt? They talk to the players, acknowledge whats screwed up and whats good. Explain why they went with this decision and that, generally talk to the playerbase on the forums and interact with them to make the best RO Spiritual successor possible. Sounds alot like what SE did with FFXIV 2.0 and beyond doesnt it? Sure wish Zenimax Online gave enough damns to do that. Hell that company even gave Latin America their own server after enough requested it. Just beats all doesn't it?

If you can't accept that there is a certain level of skill (not macro) involved in playing just keep it for yourself. You do not even accept people arguing because you are so much convinced about your opinion. Instead of trying to see another viewpoint you just accuse everyone of using macros, just because you can't pull it off? This has nothing to do with playing MMOs for many years, this is just a flaw in your thinking. You are making yourself look incredibly ridiculous.

Mauz

From what I see of 10 ppl 8 think animation canceling is an exploit and/or are unable to learn it, 1 is able to cancel some light attacks or so and 1 can do it on a more advanced level. The last one does as much dmg on a sustain build than another one with a class cannon and doesn't take much dmg on his own so that he can actually play a glass cannon build which make him even better. Taking into concern that most of these 8 ppl won't show up in pvp that often and if not for too long cause its for them not really fun its most likely only 1 of 100 ppl who can animation cancel perfectly.

ZoS says thats fine but I think its no wonder if most ppl avoid pvp then or join a zerg for easy are spam. As a result ZoS does not care much for PvP. I find animation canceling make the game interesting but it should be transformed into a less complex system with maybe 2 priorities instead of 5.

ToRelax

Ezareth wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

No. In 1.5 we had 2400 magicka and 160 magicka regen softcap I think, but at launch it was much lower.

Edit: Now that I think about it, regen may have been a bit lower in 1.5, something from 140-160. I remember stamina regen softcap was lower than magicka. But certainly higher than 100.

Look into this video at 1:33, he's softcapped with 1904 magicka and 91 magicka regen.

https://youtu.be/7Hta9USZuA8

Hiero_Glyph

Mauz wrote: »

From what I see of 10 ppl 8 think animation canceling is an exploit and/or are unable to learn it, 1 is able to cancel some light attacks or so and 1 can do it on a more advanced level. The last one does as much dmg on a sustain build than another one with a class cannon and doesn't take much dmg on his own so that he can actually play a glass cannon build which make him even better. Taking into concern that most of these 8 ppl won't show up in pvp that often and if not for too long cause its for them not really fun its most likely only 1 of 100 ppl who can animation cancel perfectly.

ZoS says thats fine but I think its no wonder if most ppl avoid pvp then or join a zerg for easy are spam. As a result ZoS does not care much for PvP. I find animation canceling make the game interesting but it should be transformed into a less complex system with maybe 2 priorities instead of 5.

While animation canceling is important, having a solid skill rotation matters more. In practice you can only animation cancel 1-2 skills before needing to make adjustments unless you are doing PvE. This means that you might be able to light attack weave and block/bash cancel for a short rotation but when you need to buff or use mobility you can't easily continue a rotation. Worse yet blocking kills stamina regen now so it's not even a good method to use since you lose ~2-4s of stamina regen for saving ~1s of animation time. Weapon swap canceling is preferred but is not consistent, even with a good connection due to frame drops. In all honesty the players that are using animation cancels are using extremely short rotations and more often just light weaving due to recent changes in 2.1; this also allows them to adjust much faster.

I will admit that animation canceling in ESO is extreme though and it demonstrate a team that didn't understand how to make effects occur towards the end of an animtation. Sadly, many skills can be canceled with no animation and this is horrible design. It would be like reload canceling without requiring the magazine to actually be inserted during the animation; it's amateurish/inexperienced game design.

Ezareth

ToRelax wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

No. In 1.5 we had 2400 magicka and 160 magicka regen softcap I think, but at launch it was much lower.

Edit: Now that I think about it, regen may have been a bit lower in 1.5, something from 140-160. I remember stamina regen softcap was lower than magicka. But certainly higher than 100.

Look into this video at 1:33, he's softcapped with 1904 magicka and 91 magicka regen.

https://youtu.be/7Hta9USZuA8

You're right, I forgot about the softcap raise in 1.5 that made overload a thing. Ahh beloved 1.5....how I miss thee.

thelordoffelines

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it. Latency is also a factor in animation cancelling thus again the macro use, it may still vary now and then when it goes off, but thanks to macros it can reliably go off long as programmed right.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its as pathetic as this game is right now.

How hard did FENGRUSH rek u?

Ezareth

Alexandrious wrote: »

Your blindness is hindering you from being comprehensive of the fact he is using broken OP builds that a majority of players believe needs adjustment, and likely has over 300 or more champion points, vs those who majorly have less than 100 which most players currently playing and pvping have, giving him an incredible advantage due to being able to use gear/skill combos those with 100 and less cannot do, thus having a 40 percent or more efficiency rating over them. Enabling him to do what he can do. Sorry but no, hence why the new Champion point cap and catch up system came into place to make things more fair. What hes doing isnt skill, its abusing the very flawed system and mechanics this game still up to today is finding it impossible to balance and fix.

Sorry to say, but I been playing MMOs alot longer than you have. I know whats B.S and whats not. He is using Macros to do all his animation cancelling just like anyone else who youtubes their fights, and hell, he doesn't even come on here to try and defend himself. And if he does? He will probably try to do that RPing talks about himself in third person b.s to try and evade it. Latency is also a factor in animation cancelling thus again the macro use, it may still vary now and then when it goes off, but thanks to macros it can reliably go off long as programmed right.

Please stop brown nosing, @Ezareth its as pathetic as this game is right now.

His build isn't broken or OP, it's well crafted and nothing all that original TBH. He is at Champion cap and I'm close enough that I may as well be.

I wouldn't make statements about people you don't know anything about and can't back up either but given the irrationality of your posts I'd say that is a lesson you've yet to learn.

RinaldoGandolphi

@Ezareth ahh 1.5...i do miss those days....

I must admit, its funny how serious folks take this buggy game. macro this, bug that,this is OP, etc....im to the point now i just PVP for fun and drink beer with my friends in Teamspeak lol. I don't really care anymore about it.

whenever something funny happens i usually say "Buggy game is buggy" that phase should be enshrined on your forum sig.

Ezareth

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

@Ezareth ahh 1.5...i do miss those days....

I must admit, its funny how serious folks take this buggy game. macro this, bug that,this is OP, etc....im to the point now i just PVP for fun and drink beer with my friends in Teamspeak lol. I don't really care anymore about it.

whenever something funny happens i usually say "Buggy game is buggy" that phase should be enshrined on your forum sig.

Yeah it has become something of a mantra for me of late (=

Alucardo

@FENGRUSH Please teach me how to lock scrubs up.

abelsgmx

Sometimes ping reach 500+ i wear heavy armor and all time in encounters i have on Major Resolve and Major Ward, one second and i am killed, when i see combat log, 4-8 attacks have been trigered by one person using 2 handed. I just get tired of this game

leepalmer95

abelsgmx wrote: »

Sometimes ping reach 500+ i wear heavy armor and all time in encounters i have on Major Resolve and Major Ward, one second and i am killed, when i see combat log, 4-8 attacks have been trigered by one person using 2 handed. I just get tired of this game

Nice thread necro.

QuebraRegra

Sensesfail13 wrote: »

I think cooldowns do need to be introduced, not in a wait 15 seconds to use a skill category but make it so your other skills cannot be used until the animation is finished and take the animations away from some skills and add a longer cooldown to others (like purge) making them unspammable. That way some skills dont have animations and thus will not have a cooldown but others will have animations of say 2.0 seconds and you have to wait that 2 seconds before you can use that skill again. It doesnt take away from the build diversity and skill usage it actually makes it better and more dynamic by not having a zerg run around with 3 people spamming purge and 5 prox det spamming and 3 healing and 4 spamming steel tornado repeatedly.
Some people will get mad but they are more than likely the cheaters using this print screen bug to kill people with 80k dmg in .3 seconds. Or the zergers that run around roflstomping actual pvpers with 40 sheeple spamming one button. Anybody that is against this and for animation canceling which ultimately allows this type of skill-less play should just quit anyhow, you ruin the game.

The animations durations were intended to be part of the balance, but ZOS could not address the technical aspects of animation canceling and declared AC a "feature", after first reporting it as a bug to be addressed. Much like DUCO they gave up/in. It's an issue with a great many games, and not easy to address technically.

When was the last time there was any balance in this game? Was there ever?

The overall "battlesirit" nerfs were a laughable way to try and address some of the obvious problems.

QuebraRegra

Ezareth wrote: »

Alexandrious wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

If youre looking for more entertainment, should check this guys post history. I checked one and they just get better and better:

THis is long, but really good, especially the part about sypher.

There is literally mention of animation canceling in every one of this guys posts. This is the holy animation cancelling crusader.

Please stop by my stream sometime alexandrios and you can physically see my FTC numbers and let me know when I am animation canceling as I takedown 1v5, 1v10 etc.

Id love to see this bigtime 16 y/o MMO vet point out where the cheating is occurring when FENGRUSH pulls off the impossible before his eyes. Im also like a 16 y/o MMO vet (?) and I dont actually make excuses when Im PvPing in games, its a great feeling.

@FENGRUSH

Wow! This guy is the gift that keeps on giving. I think we have a RL badass on our hands.

$10 says he's a rage tell + /blocker.

Alexandrious wrote: »

The impossible? Naw, I know what your magic trick is, its one http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-anansi and one http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-naga-epic-chroma

And please stop referring yourself in the third person, it makes people wonder if you got a screw loose.

You should watch FENGRUSH as he facerolls his "Razer" keyboard to victory on his Twitch Stream. He doesn't even look at his screen. He just headbangs those macros out on his keyboard and the AP and CPs just roll in!

I'm dying here!

The best part about you is the other account you have agreeing with everything you type.

Alexandrious wrote: »

Thats cute. Please, keep defending an exploit and using a RTS game as a bad example.

I bet you have a tube of this sitting next to your desk for all the "Cramping" you experience...

Gonna revive this thread just so I can call you ignorant. Fengrush as well as any of the other ESO "Celebs" who post up videos of them doing whatever, are using Macros. Im sorry but you gotta be rather foolish to think otherwise, no matter how much practice you get in, you will not be able to get constant back to back perfect animation cancels due to ever changing latency in pvp and so forth, thats one of the reasons for macro use.

Animation cancelling was NOT intended. The Devs just decided to embrace it, rather than fix it, because they cant fix it, not without reworking the entire combat system.

And thanks to animation cancelling, my partner quit the game calling it rubbish, and thus now I gotta quit too. Sighs. Thats not only it though. But the lack of nerf to nightblades thats sorely needed, the buffs to DK thats sorely needed, and other adjustments, never happened. Hell did they even fix the performance issues in Cyrodiil? Cuz I saw nothing about it on the patch notes. Welp, guess ToS will do for me for now. This game had a bad run, 2 years now? And still full of tremendous problems. Plenty of mmos on the horizon, looking forward to EQ Next to see if its sink or swim if it EVER comes out. Lulz see what I did there?

@alexandrious You should watch @FENGRUSH on his twitch stream as he decimates players in the sewers sometime. I've watched in the past to see if and how much he animation cancels and he doesn't animation cancel consistently or perfectly as you describe which would be the cast were someone using a macro to do so. He's just a good player and just because you can't comprehend how a player can be that good without cheating or "exploiting" doesn't mean he has to be cheating.

runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

yeah and gues what you are canceling the light attack animation(at best the way you imply actually nothing happens) but not that of WB...

for real ? Dont gues! Go test it.

You can't instant cast wrecking blow, sorry. I'm a wrecking blow spamming NB and you can only do two things with it. Light attack>Wrecking block, or Wrecking Blow>Heavy/Medium attack. Either way the Wrecking blow requires the full 1 second cast time before it fires and if your target moves out of range at any point in time during that 1 second it stops. With latency however, I will say that Wrecking blow becomes more buggy and will often hit players from further away than range or through dodge roll etc but that isn't cheating or exploiting...buggy game is buggy.

ToRelax wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Animations cancelling is just a stupid mechanic. So combat gets slower, just like as start of TESO when people didn't use it as much. I thought it was better.

I don't mind the cancelling that much except when you rely on visuals. I now cannot tell if the DK used flappy wings because he cancelled it. So I cannot react. The reason he flaps his wings is so I can adjust to it. Same with shield, healing and other defence skills.

If people don't want the animation, then Zos better remove it and make everything insta cast with no cooldown/animation.

We also had softcaps of like 1.8k magicka and 80 regen or so.

Softcaps were ~2400 and ~100 regen actually.

and those caps were better than nothing....

ZOS_JohanaB

This conversation is almost a year old and as such considered a necro. Because of that we will be closing this thread so not to revive old and out of date information. In the future please do not post on old threads, if something in an old thread sparks your attention please feel free to create a new thread.