Rise of the Wreaking BLOW spammers

Varicite

technohic wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

No real issue with WB. I just want a few minor fixes that have caused some problems. Two such fixes would be:

-WB sometimes hits and cc's mid-roll

-WB sometimes hits and cc's after I have bolted or rolled out of range (this delay is rather annoying)

Both are network lag issue.

If ZOS can fix this, both your issues will get fixed, as well as a plethora of others.

I got 2 WB in a row. one put me in air, second hit me in air right after first :D:D was funny. Just like when all attack hit you while roll. Or when suddenly 3 snipe hits you. or 6 crushing shock. etc... Zenimax Power.

I've been wondering if I was just seeing things but is there something up with not getting CC immunity to where you can be batted around like a ping pong ball?

Evidently Eric Wroebel put in some change to two-handers to give them CC immune resistant stuns "so they could catch bolting sorcs". God knows how many bugs that change introduced but I wouldn't be surprised to see a good half dozen or so from this.

Stealth-changes with no communication FTL.

/shakemyhead

I'm on sorcs sidees from now on against nerfs. Every time they try to hit sorcs with something, my Templar gets whacked harder. I don't have an escape and look what they did to my poor Blazing Shield!

You're siding w/ the guys that got you nerfed? <.<

We'll see how that works out, I guess. : P

Sorcs didn't do it. It was some individuals not knowing exactly what shields they were having issues with so they just complained about shields in general. Bam! 15% nerf across the board even if your shield was fine. Just so happened that blazing shield was already getting a nerf at the same time to magicka cost so it was a double whammy.

Well, to be fair, Blazing Shield did also have its fair share of complaints in the past. They've just mostly died down now (and there were also some nerfs back then as well) recently.

My post was mostly just a silly jab, though. : P I don't really blame Sorcs for the nerf to shields, but I will say that I did post numerous times about the strength of shields at the time of the nerf, and it had nothing to do w/ not knowing which shield I was dealing w/.

For me, personally, it was more about shields providing a blanket defense against procs, DoTs, Ult gain, bleeds, certain CCs, many additional skill effects, and of course damage. And being spammable and stackable. They basically neuter the viability of many builds w/out any real counter outside of damage, which they are literally created to counter themselves.

Yes, you can CC and kill a shield stacker, just like you CC and kill everybody in the entire game, because that's generally how you score a kill against any player worth their salt. And every player worth their salt is going to be prepared for that in some manner.

So many shields of varying utility and strength, and not a single hard counter to any of them, which everybody feels is okay because Wrecking Blow exists.

...and now you want to nerf Wrecking Blow, hmm? I bet you can guess exactly where I'd go next w/ this. : P

Cody

Ezareth wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

No real issue with WB. I just want a few minor fixes that have caused some problems. Two such fixes would be:

-WB sometimes hits and cc's mid-roll

-WB sometimes hits and cc's after I have bolted or rolled out of range (this delay is rather annoying)

Both are network lag issue.

If ZOS can fix this, both your issues will get fixed, as well as a plethora of others.

I got 2 WB in a row. one put me in air, second hit me in air right after first :D:D was funny. Just like when all attack hit you while roll. Or when suddenly 3 snipe hits you. or 6 crushing shock. etc... Zenimax Power.

I've been wondering if I was just seeing things but is there something up with not getting CC immunity to where you can be batted around like a ping pong ball?

Evidently Eric Wroebel put in some change to two-handers to give them CC immune resistant stuns "so they could catch bolting sorcs". God knows how many bugs that change introduced but I wouldn't be surprised to see a good half dozen or so from this.

Stealth-changes with no communication FTL.

that change is completely unacceptable.

I can catch a BE spamming sorc with ambush spam; 2Hers do not need a CC resistant stun.

sorcs go down super fast; if they want to flee from the fight; let them. they are smart for taking advantage of their class skills and abilities.

Panda244

Cody wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

No real issue with WB. I just want a few minor fixes that have caused some problems. Two such fixes would be:

-WB sometimes hits and cc's mid-roll

-WB sometimes hits and cc's after I have bolted or rolled out of range (this delay is rather annoying)

Both are network lag issue.

If ZOS can fix this, both your issues will get fixed, as well as a plethora of others.

I got 2 WB in a row. one put me in air, second hit me in air right after first :D:D was funny. Just like when all attack hit you while roll. Or when suddenly 3 snipe hits you. or 6 crushing shock. etc... Zenimax Power.

I've been wondering if I was just seeing things but is there something up with not getting CC immunity to where you can be batted around like a ping pong ball?

Evidently Eric Wroebel put in some change to two-handers to give them CC immune resistant stuns "so they could catch bolting sorcs". God knows how many bugs that change introduced but I wouldn't be surprised to see a good half dozen or so from this.

Stealth-changes with no communication FTL.

that change is completely unacceptable.

I can catch a BE spamming sorc with ambush spam; 2Hers do not need a CC resistant stun.

sorcs go down super fast; if they want to flee from the fight; let them. they are smart for taking advantage of their class skills and abilities.

So taking advantage of Reflective Scales warrants a nerf, taking advantage of Bolt Escape got it nerfed....

Alright, suppose it means that it's time to nerf Fear and Cloak everyone!

@Cody I'm having a bad day, sorry...

Cody

Panda244 wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

No real issue with WB. I just want a few minor fixes that have caused some problems. Two such fixes would be:

-WB sometimes hits and cc's mid-roll

-WB sometimes hits and cc's after I have bolted or rolled out of range (this delay is rather annoying)

Both are network lag issue.

If ZOS can fix this, both your issues will get fixed, as well as a plethora of others.

I got 2 WB in a row. one put me in air, second hit me in air right after first :D:D was funny. Just like when all attack hit you while roll. Or when suddenly 3 snipe hits you. or 6 crushing shock. etc... Zenimax Power.

I've been wondering if I was just seeing things but is there something up with not getting CC immunity to where you can be batted around like a ping pong ball?

Evidently Eric Wroebel put in some change to two-handers to give them CC immune resistant stuns "so they could catch bolting sorcs". God knows how many bugs that change introduced but I wouldn't be surprised to see a good half dozen or so from this.

Stealth-changes with no communication FTL.

that change is completely unacceptable.

I can catch a BE spamming sorc with ambush spam; 2Hers do not need a CC resistant stun.

sorcs go down super fast; if they want to flee from the fight; let them. they are smart for taking advantage of their class skills and abilities.

So taking advantage of Reflective Scales warrants a nerf, taking advantage of Bolt Escape got it nerfed....

Alright, suppose it means that it's time to nerf Fear and Cloak everyone!

@Cody I'm having a bad day, sorry...

its ok, I know how you feel:)

amonengelb16_ESO

weakling blow spammers?

The_Drexill

Others have said it, but yep... counter to wrecking blow is being mobile. Dance around your opponent or walk through him and it makes the guy useless.

Xsorus

Ashanne wrote: »

i'm gonna thank the players that are so "proud" of their builds (and no, his build is not special and this is coming from a stamina user since beta that pvped to rank 33 with stamina build) to actually post this:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161628/wrecking-o-matic-volume-9-stamina-dk-video#latest

QED

Don't know what QED means google it...you dont understand why I am saying that look at the clip.

1 sec ..2 wb...a stam user that can dodge like forever and still cannot escape the Wrecking blowS coming at him continuously...cuz hell he is truly spamming that. Heavy,light, medium,shielded same ending..death after max 3 WB

But hey...L2P, right?

To be fair...I'd spam Whip to if I had a Stamina Morph...or Surprise Attack if I was a NB...Focused aim if i'm bow.

Basically I'm going to be spamming something..if I was DW i'd be using Rapid Strikes (and i've used DW and done exactly that..it does a lot of damage as well

Two hander just happens to have the melee version of focused aim..which is wrecking blow.

Hell in 1.5 with my Bastion build I would spam Pierce armor on people.

Spamming isn't the issue...the fact that its instant death if you get caught without stamina is probably the issue..But at the same time its really the only thing that allows anyone to fight a Sorc currently...cept maybe a Nightblade (which is going to spam Surprise Attack)

Panda244

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ashanne wrote: »

i'm gonna thank the players that are so "proud" of their builds (and no, his build is not special and this is coming from a stamina user since beta that pvped to rank 33 with stamina build) to actually post this:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161628/wrecking-o-matic-volume-9-stamina-dk-video#latest

QED

Don't know what QED means google it...you dont understand why I am saying that look at the clip.

1 sec ..2 wb...a stam user that can dodge like forever and still cannot escape the Wrecking blowS coming at him continuously...cuz hell he is truly spamming that. Heavy,light, medium,shielded same ending..death after max 3 WB

But hey...L2P, right?

To be fair...I'd spam Whip to if I had a Stamina Morph...or Surprise Attack if I was a NB...Focused aim if i'm bow.

Basically I'm going to be spamming something..if I was DW i'd be using Rapid Strikes (and i've used DW and done exactly that..it does a lot of damage as well

Two hander just happens to have the melee version of focused aim..which is wrecking blow.

Hell in 1.5 with my Bastion build I would spam Pierce armor on people.

Spamming isn't the issue...the fact that its instant death if you get caught without stamina is probably the issue..But at the same time its really the only thing that allows anyone to fight a Sorc currently...cept maybe a Nightblade (which is going to spam Surprise Attack)

Spam is the name of the game at the moment, honestly no reason to stop and use shields or self heals because the objective is no longer to have a prolonged fight but burst the enemy down before he bursts you down, and dodge roll is a better defense than stopping and using a shield that will get melted and give your face a new makeover right after you cast it.

Xsorus

Panda244 wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ashanne wrote: »

i'm gonna thank the players that are so "proud" of their builds (and no, his build is not special and this is coming from a stamina user since beta that pvped to rank 33 with stamina build) to actually post this:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161628/wrecking-o-matic-volume-9-stamina-dk-video#latest

QED

Don't know what QED means google it...you dont understand why I am saying that look at the clip.

1 sec ..2 wb...a stam user that can dodge like forever and still cannot escape the Wrecking blowS coming at him continuously...cuz hell he is truly spamming that. Heavy,light, medium,shielded same ending..death after max 3 WB

But hey...L2P, right?

To be fair...I'd spam Whip to if I had a Stamina Morph...or Surprise Attack if I was a NB...Focused aim if i'm bow.

Basically I'm going to be spamming something..if I was DW i'd be using Rapid Strikes (and i've used DW and done exactly that..it does a lot of damage as well

Two hander just happens to have the melee version of focused aim..which is wrecking blow.

Hell in 1.5 with my Bastion build I would spam Pierce armor on people.

Spamming isn't the issue...the fact that its instant death if you get caught without stamina is probably the issue..But at the same time its really the only thing that allows anyone to fight a Sorc currently...cept maybe a Nightblade (which is going to spam Surprise Attack)

Spam is the name of the game at the moment, honestly no reason to stop and use shields or self heals because the objective is no longer to have a prolonged fight but burst the enemy down before he bursts you down, and dodge roll is a better defense than stopping and using a shield that will get melted and give your face a new makeover right after you cast it.

Unless you're sporting a 10k+ shield like some classes..But Spam has always been the name of the game....Impulse/Flame Whip/Pierce Armor/Concealed Blade/Piercing Jabs ect ect...Pretty much people spam their main attack because that's the way the game is designed.

You occasionally work in other abilities and such...

I also have to use Heals as a Stamina user...Dodge Roll stops some damage not all.

Either way the TTK is to low right now.. and things like Shields are pushing out other builds....and the damage of the big hitters is pushing the game out of wack.

technohic

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Ashanne wrote: »

i'm gonna thank the players that are so "proud" of their builds (and no, his build is not special and this is coming from a stamina user since beta that pvped to rank 33 with stamina build) to actually post this:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161628/wrecking-o-matic-volume-9-stamina-dk-video#latest

QED

Don't know what QED means google it...you dont understand why I am saying that look at the clip.

1 sec ..2 wb...a stam user that can dodge like forever and still cannot escape the Wrecking blowS coming at him continuously...cuz hell he is truly spamming that. Heavy,light, medium,shielded same ending..death after max 3 WB

But hey...L2P, right?

To be fair...I'd spam Whip to if I had a Stamina Morph...or Surprise Attack if I was a NB...Focused aim if i'm bow.

Basically I'm going to be spamming something..if I was DW i'd be using Rapid Strikes (and i've used DW and done exactly that..it does a lot of damage as well

Two hander just happens to have the melee version of focused aim..which is wrecking blow.

Hell in 1.5 with my Bastion build I would spam Pierce armor on people.

Spamming isn't the issue...the fact that its instant death if you get caught without stamina is probably the issue..But at the same time its really the only thing that allows anyone to fight a Sorc currently...cept maybe a Nightblade (which is going to spam Surprise Attack)

Spam is the name of the game at the moment, honestly no reason to stop and use shields or self heals because the objective is no longer to have a prolonged fight but burst the enemy down before he bursts you down, and dodge roll is a better defense than stopping and using a shield that will get melted and give your face a new makeover right after you cast it.

Unless you're sporting a 10k+ shield like some classes..But Spam has always been the name of the game....Impulse/Flame Whip/Pierce Armor/Concealed Blade/Piercing Jabs ect ect...Pretty much people spam their main attack because that's the way the game is designed.

You occasionally work in other abilities and such...

I also have to use Heals as a Stamina user...Dodge Roll stops some damage not all.

Either way the TTK is to low right now.. and things like Shields are pushing out other builds....and the damage of the big hitters is pushing the game out of wack.

I agree with this. Armor does little to help you with all the damage stacking large attacks along with penetration and things that can debuff it up too 100% and siege flying around. Shields are about mandatory.

golfer.dub17_ESO

I'd be happy if they nerfed the damage and made it insta-cast. Or otherwise gave us some form of 2hand attack that doesn't do terrible damage (Executioner, Cleave) and doesn't take a year to cast only for it to auto-cancel because the enemy got out of range ("wrecking" blow).

Straight up nerfing it though? That would just make it worthless, as well as two handers overall. Wrecking blow is the only damage dealing skill 2handers have (unless you have some sort of crit rush kite build, but that's hardly an argument for several reasons).

Seriously, as someone else said, you spend half the battle channeling it only for it to not even land.

TheBonesXXX

You can magnum shot/push back wrecking blow so the animation completes but the player misses their target.

Tankqull

Panda244 wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Kypho wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

No real issue with WB. I just want a few minor fixes that have caused some problems. Two such fixes would be:

-WB sometimes hits and cc's mid-roll

-WB sometimes hits and cc's after I have bolted or rolled out of range (this delay is rather annoying)

Both are network lag issue.

If ZOS can fix this, both your issues will get fixed, as well as a plethora of others.

I got 2 WB in a row. one put me in air, second hit me in air right after first :D:D was funny. Just like when all attack hit you while roll. Or when suddenly 3 snipe hits you. or 6 crushing shock. etc... Zenimax Power.

I've been wondering if I was just seeing things but is there something up with not getting CC immunity to where you can be batted around like a ping pong ball?

Evidently Eric Wroebel put in some change to two-handers to give them CC immune resistant stuns "so they could catch bolting sorcs". God knows how many bugs that change introduced but I wouldn't be surprised to see a good half dozen or so from this.

Stealth-changes with no communication FTL.

that change is completely unacceptable.

I can catch a BE spamming sorc with ambush spam; 2Hers do not need a CC resistant stun.

sorcs go down super fast; if they want to flee from the fight; let them. they are smart for taking advantage of their class skills and abilities.

So taking advantage of Reflective Scales warrants a nerf, taking advantage of Bolt Escape got it nerfed....

Alright, suppose it means that it's time to nerf Fear and Cloak everyone!

@Cody I'm having a bad day, sorry...

you know the difference between a out of yail card (BE, Cloak) and a yail riot card(scales) ?

Davadin

Kypho wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

No real issue with WB. I just want a few minor fixes that have caused some problems. Two such fixes would be:

-WB sometimes hits and cc's mid-roll

-WB sometimes hits and cc's after I have bolted or rolled out of range (this delay is rather annoying)

Both are network lag issue.

If ZOS can fix this, both your issues will get fixed, as well as a plethora of others.

I got 2 WB in a row. one put me in air, second hit me in air right after first :D:D was funny. Just like when all attack hit you while roll. Or when suddenly 3 snipe hits you. or 6 crushing shock. etc... Zenimax Power.

if i use my Ravaging sword which has been turned to Gold and has faster attack trait, i can WB someone who's flying thanks to my first WB...

Davadin

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

I'd be happy if they nerfed the damage and made it insta-cast. Or otherwise gave us some form of 2hand attack that doesn't do terrible damage (Executioner, Cleave) and doesn't take a year to cast only for it to auto-cancel because the enemy got out of range ("wrecking" blow).

respectfully disagree.

a year to cast?

no. 0.8sec is definitely manageable. dont make it insta-cast, don't nerf the damage.

it's easily avoidable and anyone who DOESN'T PANIC can simply block or roll and destroy a WB spammer.

Pro-tip: when you see a WB spammer, don't simply turn around and run. chances are, when you see one pulling back to whack you with one, you won't have time to escape (except bolt sorcs, i suppose).

Most of my kills last night was people freaking out because they're all "WTH WHERED HE COME FROM" and start DPS-ing me, or try to run away.

Understand that WB comes with a knock/stun. Avoid it, and you'll avoid being stuck AND the full damage.

It's fine, people.

I don't understand how one can be more frustrated with this, compared to, say, super shield stacking users who can take 4-5 people 5-10 sec to kill... or blockers who hold their shield 99% of the time while executing skills... or people who spam... what is it again? Overload Light Attack? Hit my head twice within a second, each hits 13k~14k. Da ***. I've NEVER been hit by other WB that high, that fast, that consistent.

cozmon3c_ESO

Davadin wrote: »

golfer.dub17_ESO wrote: »

I'd be happy if they nerfed the damage and made it insta-cast. Or otherwise gave us some form of 2hand attack that doesn't do terrible damage (Executioner, Cleave) and doesn't take a year to cast only for it to auto-cancel because the enemy got out of range ("wrecking" blow).

respectfully disagree.

a year to cast?

no. 0.8sec is definitely manageable. dont make it insta-cast, don't nerf the damage.

it's easily avoidable and anyone who DOESN'T PANIC can simply block or roll and destroy a WB spammer.

Pro-tip: when you see a WB spammer, don't simply turn around and run. chances are, when you see one pulling back to whack you with one, you won't have time to escape (except bolt sorcs, i suppose).

Most of my kills last night was people freaking out because they're all "WTH WHERED HE COME FROM" and start DPS-ing me, or try to run away.

Understand that WB comes with a knock/stun. Avoid it, and you'll avoid being stuck AND the full damage.

It's fine, people.

I don't understand how one can be more frustrated with this, compared to, say, super shield stacking users who can take 4-5 people 5-10 sec to kill... or blockers who hold their shield 99% of the time while executing skills... or people who spam... what is it again? Overload Light Attack? Hit my head twice within a second, each hits 13k~14k. Da ***. I've NEVER been hit by other WB that high, that fast, that consistent.

yup ultimates will hit hard, but it hits as hard as wrecking blow and lethal arrow right now lols.

golfer.dub17_ESO

Davadin wrote: »

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no. 0.8sec is definitely manageable.

it's easily avoidable

Conflicting points, and the main issue. If anything it's underpowered, not overpowered.

The only damage dealing ability that 2handers have is "easily avoidable".

yup ultimates will hit hard, but it hits as hard as wrecking blow and lethal arrow right now lols.

Or crystal frags, or radiant destruction, or probably a large list of other skills from other classes.

amonengelb16_ESO

If the skillcap of most TESO players is like those of @xsorusb14_ESO frapsed enemies then ... ROFL. This is definetely a l2p issue. Honestly? I never got killed by wrecking blow as a 5light/2heavy user. I don't want to discredit xsorus video but frankly? Getting wrecking blowed out of stealth? The one getting petrified without even wasted stamina - obviously not even caring about breaking out of CC? Xsorus shows how to bust noobs. If people are really dying like this in pvp (putting the stealthy sniper action aside) then I clearly dunno what the hell those players are doing in PvP. Maybe PvEing or being on desktop, the hell I know.

In fact ... nerfing things like wrecking blow would just lower the skill cap.

Seriously, you were oneshotted out of stealth in DAoC.

Pro-tip: You can quickbind interrupt!!!!!!!!111111

eventide03b14a_ESO

Eh...At least it's not about sorcerers this time.

technohic

amonengelb16_ESO wrote: »

If the skillcap of most TESO players is like those of @xsorusb14_ESO frapsed enemies then ... ROFL. This is definetely a l2p issue. Honestly? I never got killed by wrecking blow as a 5light/2heavy user. I don't want to discredit xsorus video but frankly? Getting wrecking blowed out of stealth? The one getting petrified without even wasted stamina - obviously not even caring about breaking out of CC? Xsorus shows how to bust noobs. If people are really dying like this in pvp (putting the stealthy sniper action aside) then I clearly dunno what the hell those players are doing in PvP. Maybe PvEing or being on desktop, the hell I know.

In fact ... nerfing things like wrecking blow would just lower the skill cap.

Seriously, you were oneshotted out of stealth in DAoC.

Pro-tip: You can quickbind interrupt!!!!!!!!111111

*Talks about L2P issue*
*Tells people to interrupt WB*


Yeah! WB users have skill and know how to play more than you is all!

Aetcharian

As a 2h DK, I do agree that wrecking blow is a little too strong for its own good, and I've noticed it's made players that were previously not very good in to monsters in PvP simply because they are carried by the single skill. I'd be fine with wrecking blow getting nerfed if we got a stamina whip or something like that. DK needs an instant, good damage skill (like surrprise attack).

Not only are 2h dks using WB because it's insanely good, it's also the ONLY good melee dps spammable for 2h DK. Whip should have gotten the stamina morph, not fire breath (in my opinion).

Aetcharian

Ashanne

*PVE -er commenting on PVP videos*

referring to amonengelb16_ESO post

Ezareth

Aetcharian wrote: »

As a 2h DK, I do agree that wrecking blow is a little too strong for its own good, and I've noticed it's made players that were previously not very good in to monsters in PvP simply because they are carried by the single skill. I'd be fine with wrecking blow getting nerfed if we got a stamina whip or something like that. DK needs an instant, good damage skill (like surrprise attack).

Not only are 2h dks using WB because it's insanely good, it's also the ONLY good melee dps spammable for 2h DK. Whip should have gotten the stamina morph, not fire breath (in my opinion).

Aetcharian

I'm fine with the power of wrecking blow tbh, the real issue is the other abilities that synergize with it like crit charge which give your opponent an unmitigatable stun that holds them in place regardless of break free. I also don't think wrecking blow should be able to hit people through dodge. I was playing with it for the first time last night against Cinn on PTS and I could consistently land hits on her through dodge roll and it wasn't a latency issue as the PTS had zero lag whatsoever.

Sypher

It's weird that whip didn't get a stamina morph. All the other magicka abilities that were scaled based off armor (biting jabs, surprise attack, ambush) got a stamina morph. So why didn't whip?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

I see a lot of confusion here let me help you out 2handed War Hammers ignore 20% of your armor + CP passives mines ignore 12.6% armor with physical attacks so that plus my 3k weapon damage and WB's buff now add the crusher enchantment (mark target for us Nightblades) and it's a deathly combo but that's the point it's close range gain distance and you will have no problem

Also never blame a player for a 60m charges that's so clearly a lag problem

This whole post is just the new "nerf snipe" posts of 1.5 most caster stack regen to spam powers so yes when you're facing power builds you die your build is for long fights and we go for the fast fight this is a lag + L2P problem add heavy armor or range it's that simple

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Also Dodge rolling is hella broje will all powers I can't roll meteors, charges, AoE or Melee half the time so a game problem not as much a power problem

Makkir

Erock25

Boohoo DK people who didn't get a whip stamina morph .... WHERE MY SORC STAM MORPH AT???? *activates his toggle and walks away*

Xsorus

Erock25 wrote: »

Boohoo DK people who didn't get a whip stamina morph .... WHERE MY SORC STAM MORPH AT???? *activates his toggle and walks away*

To be fair....DK is more a melee user then a Sorc.

Varicite

Erock25 wrote: »

Boohoo DK people who didn't get a whip stamina morph .... WHERE MY SORC STAM MORPH AT???? *activates his toggle and walks away*

Ask ZOS for some melee moves, maybe?