How Long Does it Take You to Get a Champion Point?

Vanzen · March 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Vanzen wrote: »

31 minutes for 1cp with enlightment.

@Vanzen what was your activity breakdown for those 31 minutes? Questing? Grinding? PvP?

Grinding in last VR zone from normal mobs with Aoe. New skill, detonation is a blessing.

Sentinel · March 2015

From doing casual PvP + Theivery + exploration, it took me about 3 days to get 1 champion point. It seems this system promotes people to grind in some way, some form, that their own playstyle is inferior if it has less XP.

DeLindsay · March 2015

Sentinel wrote: »

From doing casual PvP + Theivery + exploration, it took me about 3 days to get 1 champion point. It seems this system promotes people to grind in some way, some form, that their own playstyle is inferior if it has less XP.

Don't worry ZoS will come up with some ridiculous excuse as to why they can't buff any other playstyles and will continue nerfing Grinding/Questing until it's so painful to level Characters (especially in Veteran Ranks) that we'll rejoice when they add +200% XP vials to the Crown Store "as a convenience". It really irritates me that there were many of us that thoroughly tested this on PTS and gave our findings via Feedback and Forum threads and ZoS literally ignored it all.

EDIT: Coming to a Crown Store near you, $1 per Champion Point increase, bundles of 12 points for $10, 25 points for $20 and finally 75 points for $50, terms and conditions may apply.

Rev Rielle · March 2015

Berinima wrote: »

Well, I am glad that you, Rev Rielle, like the new system. I personally find the new system disgusting. My points are:

- In order to install the system, every char has to be gimped.

Apart from trials there is not one bit of content I have been unable to complete that I wasn't able to complete before this patch came.

Berinima wrote: »

- To be en par again, you have to grind out around 100 champion points which means several weeks of well, let's call it gameplay.

This is simply wrong. Myself and others have done testing and found out this not to be true at all. I think you might be getting caught up - as many do - in comparing numbers rather looking at the bigger picture: What those numbers allow your character to do. Loosing sight of the forest for the trees, so to speak.

Berinima wrote: »

- Also, in the current state many activities one might enjoy don't count as gameplay.

This has always been the case in every MMO, and for good reason. I'm not sure of your point here. Any way you can get experience is the same way you'll be able to get champion point experience.

Berinima wrote: »

- While this might be manageable for veteran players it's outrageously unfair to new players.

In terms of what?
New players can still complete/enjoy their content with the new mechanics. You can't compare new players to veteran players, it just makes little sense. This 'all players should be equal even though they've played the game for drastically different times' is not healthy for any game.

Berinima wrote: »

- You remember infamous gear score checks from other games? Here there will be CP checks. Trust me, it's going to happen.

There are always these types of players in every game, regardless of whatever system is in place. My advice would be to find a good group of friends/guild to join with - if you've not done so already - that values you beyond the numbers of your character.

Berinima wrote: »

- While you could "gear up" in other games more or less easily, you just can't CP up.

Yes, you can't just 'level up CP' to catch up, for obvious reasons. The diminishing returns of the main mechanic of the CP system addresses this. Also the enlightenment. It's not a perfect system, no one is saying it is. But it could be a lot worse.

Berinima wrote: »

- This will slowly kill the game.

Well that's your opinion and I disagree.

Berinima wrote: »

- Also many future balance issues will arise because you just can't assume a steady power growth for the whole population.

Once again this is your opinion and can't possibly be based on any actual fact or evidence as you're talking about future events which have not happened yet. That being said, there is always a wide difference in player-character 'power' in games for whatever reason. Good games, accommodate this most obviously by providing a wide range of activities for players to enjoy, from simpler solo quests, to more difficult content, such as trials/PvP here in ESO. They player base is never equal in terms of power/ability in any game. Nor should it ever be expected to be.

Berinima wrote: »

- In addition to these problems, pretty much everything else they did in the patch is crap, justice system aside (Sorcerer redesign, shield stacking PvP meta, hybrid invality).

This isn't directly related to CP so I'll leave it alone.

Berinima wrote: »

The feedback along the board is very discouraging. I am not sure if you have actually been on the PTS, but if you have and still like it, then good for you.

Yes I have, and yes I do, largely because I look at the CP system for what it is, something I wish more people would do.