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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Getting annoyed by snipe... -__-

Mariiana
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Its not that i really think Snipe and its morphs are super OP or anything, but the fact that soooo many people are using it now really says something. id say nearly 50% or more of the times that i die is due to some sniper just sitting off the the side "ganking" me while im fighting someone else. Now don't get me wrong i think there is a place , even a need, to have "snipers" , Buuuut how snipe is now, it allows any terrible player ( by terrible i mean the players who cant design theyre own build to actually get into the action and not die instantly) the ability to just sit back and spam one button and get kills, which annoys me greatly.

-Rant over
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  • Teargrants
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    Heavy armor + Purge.
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  • Rylana
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Heavy armor + Purge.

    I see your purge, and raise you one unstable wall of elements.

    Your move.
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  • Sypher
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    I'm not going to comment about the whole balance issue and what should be changed, because at this point I don't know what the best solution is.

    All I can say is, when I'm running around doing my thing and I notice someone sniping me, they automatically become priority #1 on the "MUST KILL RIGHT NOW" list, no matter what the situation, if I don't focus them and kill them, then I'll have a hard time.

    Oh that also applies to any templars stacking dark flares on me (which is WAY worse than snipe, just not as popular because it's a class based skill).
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  • Teargrants
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Heavy armor + Purge.

    I see your purge, and raise you one unstable wall of elements.

    Your move.
    I see your walls, blinky out and purge anyway. Sit back and watch the rest of my group die from my purge.

    Your move. #SorcLyfe
    Edited by Teargrants on 19 January 2015 03:59
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  • Rylana
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Heavy armor + Purge.

    I see your purge, and raise you one unstable wall of elements.

    Your move.
    I see your walls, blinky out and purge anyway. Sit back and watch the rest of my group die from my purge.

    Your move.

    I collect my AP, nod in your direction, and go my merry way.
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  • Teargrants
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Heavy armor + Purge.

    I see your purge, and raise you one unstable wall of elements.

    Your move.
    I see your walls, blinky out and purge anyway. Sit back and watch the rest of my group die from my purge.

    Your move.

    I collect my AP, nod in your direction, and go my merry way.
    Come back in 5 min w/ another EP zerg. We know your weakness.
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  • Rylana
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Heavy armor + Purge.

    I see your purge, and raise you one unstable wall of elements.

    Your move.
    I see your walls, blinky out and purge anyway. Sit back and watch the rest of my group die from my purge.

    Your move.

    I collect my AP, nod in your direction, and go my merry way.
    Come back in 5 min w/ another EP zerg. We know your weakness.
    45526222.jpg

    Tactic is OP, plz nerf.
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  • Columba
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    lol l2dodge and block.
  • kijima
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    So, this guy took your advice of blocking and dodging as did 300 of his best mates...

    Film300LeonidasMartyredOnShield.jpg
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

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  • Grim13
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    Fire ring, fire ring, talons / streak, batswarm, fire ring.

    If that sounds at all familiar...

    Let the stamina builds have their day in the sun.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting Comments]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on 20 January 2015 12:58
  • Roechacca
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    These threads are so much fun to read in between snipes
  • Grim13
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    roechacca wrote: »
    These threads are so much fun to read in between snipes

    lol ikr...

    PS- if you want to get sniped by me... I'm waiting at Ash. ;P
  • heng14rwb17_ESO
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    kijima wrote: »
    So, this guy took your advice of blocking and dodging as did 300 of his best mates...

    Film300LeonidasMartyredOnShield.jpg

    Lol
    Lmao
    Poor guy with the shield !
    Lucky i can flap my wing !

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  • murtugo
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    S & B, Sticks, bows.... so what else should be nerfed?
  • ToRelax
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    murtugo wrote: »
    S & B, Sticks, bows.... so what else should be nerfed?

    Dualwield? It can be really annoying having 2 of those stamina NBs on you, rapid striking you all the time...
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  • Andferne
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    I just slap on Hardened Ward and laugh.
  • murtugo
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    murtugo wrote: »
    S & B, Sticks, bows.... so what else should be nerfed?

    Dualwield? It can be really annoying having 2 of those stamina NBs on you, rapid striking you all the time...

    Not DW... i love those flying blades.

    o:)
  • Nacario
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    murtugo wrote: »
    S & B, Sticks, bows.... so what else should be nerfed?

    Reflective scales, I just picked up bow and this is a party killer
  • Cody
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    so you wish to face me in glorious battle??? Have my snipes annoyed you? My sparks/fear DW bar would annoy you even more, AND I would likely still kill you:D

    Just let me know:)
  • Cody
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Heavy armor + Purge.

    I see your purge, and raise you one unstable wall of elements.

    Your move.

    Roll dodge
  • Cody
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    kijima wrote: »
    So, this guy took your advice of blocking and dodging as did 300 of his best mates...

    Film300LeonidasMartyredOnShield.jpg

    that was almost dozens of archers.... lol. one cant dodge or block dozens of arrows
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Fire ring, fire ring, talons / streak, batswarm, fire ring.

    If that sounds at all familiar... then go f yourselves.

    Let the stamina builds have their day in the sun.

    I have nothing against stamina-builds.
    But i firmly believe archers should crawl back into that hole they came from...
    If they ever even left it, i honestly can't tell 'cause they're so far away from the actual fighting you barely see who shot you.
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    Woosh, woosh, woosh
    Plonk, plonk plonk
    I may be weak
    But my bow is (too) stronk
    Edited by Lava_Croft on 19 January 2015 07:04
  • JackDaniell
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    We all know Greatsword is to OP, 1k crit rush + works as stam resty!
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  • KBKB
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    Snipe takes skill and is defs not OP - Any bow user on the forums.
  • Lord_Bidr
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    kijima wrote: »
    So, this guy took your advice of blocking and dodging as did 300 of his best mates...

    Film300LeonidasMartyredOnShield.jpg

    OMG! I knew bows were OP...I was right all along.
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  • Rylana
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    KBKB wrote: »
    Snipe takes skill and is defs not OP - Any bow user on the forums.

    Kailiana, my nightblade bow spec, disagrees.

    Snipe is completely and totally OP, but then again, I was using bow back when it was "garbage"

    The FOTM people out there just jumped on what got good. Ill be the first to tell you that besides a flappy DK very little can escape my spike. Thats fine by me, because if my spike fails and i cant get away, i will die. Period. No defense.

    The sheer amount of investment into that massive burst negates any and all survivability outside of running.
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  • kijima
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    Cody wrote: »
    kijima wrote: »
    So, this guy took your advice of blocking and dodging as did 300 of his best mates...

    Film300LeonidasMartyredOnShield.jpg

    that was almost dozens of archers.... lol. one cant dodge or block dozens of arrows

    And dozens of archers is what you have in PvP
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

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  • DDuke
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    What I'm getting annoyed by is the horde of QQers here on the forums.

    Not a lot of people seem to realize, but Snipe (and stealth gameplay as a whole) actually got a pretty significant nerf in 1.5 when sneak attack damage was reduced.
    In fact, I couldn't even care if they nerfed it more, since it's such a bad skill these days I'm probably going to replace it with something else anyway.

    Another thing not many people seem to realize is that popular/=/good.

    Why bows are popular, there's multiple reasons, such as:
    • ZOS advertising buffs for stamina builds (while in fact stealth focused builds were nerfed instead, but it's not like these new found snipers know that)
    • Removal of forward camps & relative safety of the bow range.

    I'd like to know how someone can even die to a single archer spamming snipe, I did the math, and you'd need reaction time of 3-4 seconds to lose against a snipe spammer (human average is 0,25 seconds).

    I'd also like to know why dying against multiple archers (or other opponents) is such a bad thing? Did you expect to tank 20 archers & kill them all, like you do againt non-archers with certain magicka builds?

    And lastly, I still see more magicka builds (especially flapflap tank everything DKs) than archers in Cyrodiil...
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